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Although I don't think a draft will come out of the "War On Terror," I just started thinking about- what if it did? How does it work in a present day with drug tests, and a less physical (beatings) boot camp. I wasn't around for Vietnam, but I hear that your C.C.'s could basically beat you through boot to motivate you to finish (or maby I just watched Full Metal Jacket too much); plus you couldn't really get kicked out for drugs in those times, if I'm not mistaken.
It seems there would be to many loop-holes today for a draft to work. Breitbar.com |
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I would love to see these people drafted:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/generation...nhawk-t_b_56676.html |
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Many countries worldwide have mandatory service. Military, civil, other. Probably wouldn't be such a bad thing.
--M |
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Some of the Dems were talking about this last election. (Rangel circa 2003)
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If the Bush Administration can actually get selective service to work in this day and age, I'll
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"I am not giving them hell. I am just describing it, and it seems like hell." Harry S Truman ![]() |
Mark, perhaps things haven't changed that much:
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Source It was this situation that led to the establishment of the National School Lunch Program -- a program that has been notoriously underfunded in recent years, and which many would now like to wipe out in the name of "Welfare Reform." The type of health problems and physical condition of our youth is probably different now, but the result is just about the same. ...gjd |
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| <M_Wood51>
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Yea George but I wouldn't envy the military lifers who would have to try to "lead" the conscripts of today's generation.
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"I am not giving them hell. I am just describing it, and it seems like hell." Harry S Truman ![]() |
Were the 60s any better?
...gjd |
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George,
There were a few non-qualifiers that presented themselves as social stigmas in the 60s but are more acceptable in the non-military sector now. As such, if a young person really wanted to avoid being conscripted today, he or she could tell the draft board that they were either gay or lesbian. Likewise, a person could light up a joint or smoke or shoot an opiate just prior to his or her draft physical, just in time for a urinalysis. And as mentioned, some of the psychotrophic drugs that young persons take today, prescribed or not will be unqualifying factors without much stigma once the person leaves the MEP and draft board. Either the armed forces will need to revise certain regulations or the feds would need to come up with or stiffen the penalty just for the presence of certain chemicles in the blood system. Don't really think that's going to happen without a lot of yelling by the civil liberties lobby. American culture has indeed changed over the past 40 or so years and this change will make enforcing a draft all the much more difficult unless a miracle takes place and Gen Y & Z catches an epidemic of patriotism and blind obedience (which ain't gonna happen either). Mark |
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"I am not giving them hell. I am just describing it, and it seems like hell." Harry S Truman ![]() |
Mark, as you probably recall, back in the 60's all you had to do was declare yourself a "litter bug" -- at least according to Arlo:
Back when I enlisted in NY, I had my physical at the USPHS in lower Manhattan. It went something like this. . . Doc: I detect a slight heart murmur. I can disqualify you if you want. . . Me: No. I want to join. Then the rest of the physical, including the good old finger wave. . . Doc: Does it hurt? Me: Uhh, no. Doc: Does it feel good? Me: Well. . . No! Doc: Oh. . . He really sounded disappointed! |
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They were going disqualify me from the Coast Guard for flat feet. However, it would not have disqualified me from being drafted into the Army. I told the doctor I was an enlistee not a draftee and he said "What flat feet?"
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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8QUECGG1&show_article=1
got to wonder when it'll happen once the advicers start down the road to considering a draft...... |
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"I am not giving them hell. I am just describing it, and it seems like hell." Harry S Truman ![]() |
Temperature in Hell: 100° F and falling! ...gjd |
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| <M_Wood51>
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Depends upon the relative position of hell and the definition of what is is.
As good a place for hell as any other. |
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now the backpeddling and damage control begins;
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070813150223.tj19y2s7&show_article=1 |
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......again would this be considered a lack of planning for the draft, or lack of planning to win in iraq? |
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From the Breitbart article...
"The Pentagon sharply rejected Monday a key general's assertion that a return to the military draft has always been "an option on the table" and should be considered. "I can tell you emphatically that there is absolutely no consideration being given to reinstituting the draft," said Bryan Whitman, a Pentagon spokesman. "The all-volunteer force has surpassed all expectations of its founders." " Gotta love the right-wing not-so-mainstream media. It is quite obvious that within the confinds of the Beltway, one hand knows not what the other hand is think nor is there any real neural coordination between the two. Begs the question - will it get better or worse now that Rove is leaving? |
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Selective Service is still active, but behind the scenes.
I know a couple of CGR CWO's whose Reserve jobs are to maintain little Selective Service offices within the different services' Recruiting Offices. Basically, if their offices are up to speed, and the draft starts up, their Selective Service job is over and they have to find another CG Reserve billet to drill at. |
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