there is a high level of risk to get into an hustile population and make arrests, watch how israeli top units are doing it at a very hustile demostration - bit.ly/JgJuP

The only reason they find themselves surrounded by a "hostile population" is because they stole their homes and have forced them into being refugees living in poverty for DECADES.

Calling them "Israeli top units" is an OXYMORON.
Call them what they are: THIEVES.

Doug you need to go read a book because you have no clue what your talking about.

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Originally posted by DBez:
Doug you need to go read a book because you have no clue what your talking about.

I know the difference between buying land and confiscating it. And if I was the one whose land was "confiscated" I sure would call it theft.... wouldn't YOU?
So, which "book" would you advise that I read which would change that very simple dynamic?
AND more importantly, it is this very simple to understand ongoing theft which has fueled over 60 years of violence and retribution between the thieves and the refugees.
The FIRST terrorists in the area now called Israel were the European Jews who murdered British Officers and others during their WWII THEFT of the land know as being under the Palestinian Mandate.
Perhaps YOU have some reading to do.
I won't hold it against you though, because the Western Media has done an excellent job of providing a very one sided biased view of the good Jews and bad Arabs and would have us continuing to support the theft of the refugees' lands, and their slow extermination.
We have a new president who is apparently supporting a slightly less biased, and therefore slightly more probable path to peace.

I suggest you catch up to this new reality.

I have been awhile from the forum, and how surprising! Nothing has changed, i.e DGS is at his usual rant rampage.

Oh, well.

DGS, i believe that this thread is dedicated to professionalism of IDF (insofar as i understand, could be mistaken).

What Israel has done to reach this situation, has nothing to do with IDF professionalism.

You can be a thief (which we are not), and you can be still professional soldier.

If you have anything to say about professionalism of IDF, say so. Given your level of expertise at such affairs, and your inability to present ANY explanation as to how we should fight, i doubt that you will succeed.

Otherwise keep your bashing to the other threads, because here it will be off topic.

summer35, can you please provide a link or a picture? "bit.ly/JgJuP" does not say anything to me.

One historical reality of the history of the Israeli military is that they were initially, (in the 1940s) born from terrorists....
though nobody likes to acknwledge that, or their deeds i.e., murdering British Officers, and MANY civilians.

So, if you find that they are very impressive today, that provides some hope for the Arab Terrorists of today becoming just as "impressive" eventually. :-)

However, I will never be impressed by any military, no matter how successful, if their initial formation, and their ongoing "cause" is the theft of civilians' lands and homes.

All I can ever see is that they are just plain WRONG... as any American following American Principles like Justice for ALL, should likewise "see".

ds doo it meen dip sheet?

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Originally posted by sbird:
ds doo it meen dip sheet?

Doug is right. Please stop the name calling and such. Even if we don't agree with people they have a right to say things. I surely do not agree with many on here but I talk nice.

Mainedawg
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Isn't doug calling the kettle black? He's repeatedly referred to Jews as thieves. He's called into question Jewish-American patriotism in his AIPAC thread. His posts are nothing more than barely disguised antisemitic rants. And "sbird" is out of line?

I'm new here but unless I'm missing something....