hi,
im currently in high school, who is dreaming and has desire of serving this beautiful country. My dream is to get into U.S Air Force academy. But, unfortunely, this semester i've gotten 3.14 of disappointing GPA. i perticipate in sports such as crew and football. but this year i couldnt because i broke my arm over the summer break. However, i joined CAP (Civil Air Patrol), i mean does that help??? i'm also in a International Club, scuba diving club and a club which i created myself (i'm a president). i have approximately 91 hours of Community service hours which im gonna worl more diring to winter break. But this isnt well qualify for U.S Airforce academy?. isnt that right??? i can improve my GPA. i want to hear your opinion of my qualification to Academy in your point view in terms of my imformation i gave you.
Also my secondary college is U.S Merchant Marine Academy

Sincerely,
Chaeho Shin

I fail to see how the two are closely related...


planes v. commercial vessel/Naval Reserve or another branch.


MMA is a cake walk, but it's legit.

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Originally posted by LineInTheSand:
MMA is a cake walk, but it's legit.

So you've been there, and gone throught it, and based on your personal experience you know?

Don't bother answering, that is a rhetorical question.

I know a couple folks who went to the Merchant Marine Academy. They are all quality people, and one actually turned down an appointment to another service academy.

Yes, looked at it, know people who went through it, got in, slept there, but didn't really like what I saw/heard...

They have a 2 week plebe summer, as opposed to the other academies 7-8 swab, plebe and beast summers.

They have trimesters and semesters at sea, which is very different from the others.

It's legit, I already said that, and they have good people...it is however a very different experience.

So, I bothered answering Roger, MMA was a backup to a backup, but I think it's a good school, and a unique experience. It's also in a very nice town.

Hey,

I am a cadet at USAFA. All the main 3 academies (Army, Navy, and Air Force) are basically the same, yes there are differences, yes each has parts which are harder than the others and each one will say it is the toughest, but any is going to be better than a military college or ROTC in regular college. You can always crossbranch when you get out (want to go into army and you go to USAFA). Are you a star athlete at all? Your GPA is really important and it is pretty low for getting in, have a lot of work ahead of you. Athletics are very important but not everything. So are the clubs you are in, CAP is good for USAFA probably, I personally was in JROTC and boy scouts, little bit different, CAP is like a combination of both. Definately apply to the academies and give it your all, you might make it in, you might not, a lot of it is just luck, I only found out I was coming here in late early May of the Senior year...Also you have the option of going to the prep school and ROTC scholarships. If it is something you really want to do don't put all your eggs in the Academy basket, go for ROTC too, get involved with your local recruiting center (enlisted guys) if you have time, meet some people who are active in the military and some of the people you will be leading some day. I know the MArines have a really active program that back home did PT 3-4 times a week with some pretty cool training events (I was originally enlisting). I had a buddy in the Army program, wasn't as active, we used to joke it was more of a feel good thing, but something to look into. Coming to an academy is very hard, more so the academic year than your summer training. You really need to know that this is what you want to do if you want to come here, make sure you think about it before you accept, because you are giving up a ton of things when you show up on your first day of BCT. Life sucks a lot as a freshman, so you really need to want it. Make sure you apply anyways now so you have the oppertunity to ask yourself that question. Good luck with all of that and if you have any questions leave them up, I will make an effort to check this thing later.

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Originally posted by Captain_Kirk:
but any is going to be better than a military college or ROTC in regular college.

and you know this because you have done ROTC or been to a military college?

also his question is comparing the merchant marine academy to the air force academy, not a military academy or ROTC.

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I am a cadet at USAFA. All the main 3 academies (Army, Navy, and Air Force) are basically the same, yes there are differences, yes each has parts which are harder than the others and each one will say it is the toughest, but any is going to be better than a military college or ROTC in regular college.

Because you failed to mention the other two federal service academies, I will name them.

United States Coast Guard Academy
United States Merchant Marine Academy
United States Naval Academy
United States Military Academy

and one other one not on the east coast...


MMA will set you up WONDERFULLY for life after service, especially if you do Naval Reserve...and there's a LOT of money in it, it's a great deal.

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CAP is like a combination of both

No, actually they are quite different. Actually, we are MUCH more prestigious then AFJROTC and the boy scouts, but at the original question, yes, CAP will help a LOT! You will get an easier ride into the academy, and if you dont become and officer and you recieve your CAP Mitchell award, you start out as an E-3 even if you don't go to the academy. The AF looks very fondly at CAP. It will also get you a TON of community service hours. (about 400 per hurricane, and I live in florida).

i wouldnt say its much more prestigous... definitely not MUCH more prestigous in all caps... if that makes a difference...

and you dont need to be in CAP to get volunteer hours, you just need to volunteer.

And yes, CAP helps, but its better to be well rounded then be a CAPaholic. Get some varsity sports, join some clubs, get a good GPA, do well on standardized tests etc...

and the E-3 thing? JROTC and Boy Scouts both get that as well.

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Originally posted by 5645617:
and the E-3 thing? JROTC and Boy Scouts both get that as well.

JROTC ---> yes
Boy Scouts --> technically no, but close

Being an Eagle Scout will get you E-2.

Please don't call any service academy easy. Those who attend MMA have to fit a full college education into a shorter time because of their year at sea. (BCT at USAFA is 6 weeks, not 7-8)

As far as CAP outweighing Scouts, that is incorrect. It all depends on what you do in each program. Eagle Scout is far better known that the Mitchel award, at least in my area.
As a cadet, I know a lot of Eagle Scouts here.

Your choice should depend on which branch you would like to serve in. Both USAFA and USMMA are good schools, but they lead to totally different careers.

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Your choice should depend on which branch you would like to serve in. Both USAFA and USMMA are good schools, but they lead to totally different careers.

Negative. Air Force is an option out of MMA. Maybe not the best option, but an option none the less. MMA grads are able to cross commission into other services, whether that be USCG, Army, USN, USMC, or AF.

So says the MMA midshipman sharing my stateroom right now.

yea, there were USMMA guys at field training with me for ROTC. They had to do it to get their commission in the AF, just like the ROTC guys.

Air Force Academy sucks, go to the Merchant Marine Academy,you can get fat and stupid and still be commissioned as an officer. they would take any one. their medical exam was a joke. they would pass a dead man. Kings Point rocks!

USMMA is a very fine institution. they have awesome food, you know? that is why they have so many people overweight.

hey, you, LineIntheSand, aren't you from the coast guard academy? man, feeling sorry for you...that school sucks. your football team loses almost every single game. yeah, they got their butts kicked by Kings Point. and that explains why you tried to discredit USMMA.
Coast Guard sucks...most of you guys can't even pass the third mate license exam which was made by the Coast Guard.

thank you community college drop out