Question for recruitors out there:

I am currently in the IRR after spending 4 years active, and roughly 2.5 drilling. I transferred to the IRR due to the time in my life being consumed with Work and finishing my college education. I am now finished with my BS degree and have a good job, but have realised that the only pension / retirement worth anything anymore is through the government. This is addition to the fact that I miss flying like you wouldn't believe.

I am now looking to re-enlist and go back to Actice Duty, as an AET, which is what I left after 4 years. My question is this:

My initial contract ends 9/25/08. My wife and I are expecting twins in late July, and want a couple months to settle in with the family before leaving for a duty station. Does it make a difference if I re-enlist from the IRR, or after the fact when I have been discharged? From the best of my knowledge AET is still on the Open Rate List, but don't know what bearing this would have on it.

Any information would be greatly appreciated. I am going to be contacting my local recruiter on Tuesday, but with today being a Holiday, just checking to see if anyone has any information.

Thanks in Advance,

Hopeful AET3 Again

There probably aren't any aviation billets in the CG Reserve. You'll most likely have to change ratings.

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I am now looking to re-enlist and go back to Actice Duty, as an AET, which is what I left after 4 years. My question is this:

I understand this. I went to the reserves to a STA, where I was in the process of changing rates to BM, when I made the decision to stop drilling. I am now looking to go back to Active Duty as an AET3, which is the rate I currently still hold. My question is whether it matters if I re-enlist before my initial contract ends in order to take advantage of the Open rate List, or if it would matter if it is a few months after I am technically discharged because my 8 years is up.

Coastie53545

You cannot leave the IRR and go straight back to active duty you have to go and see a recruiter and go through the enlistment process. But if you wait you may have too many dependents.

Contact a recruiter and see what they tell you.

Thank You for the response. I am going to be in contact with the recruiter this week. I know I cannot simply say "I'm Back" and show up, just looking to find out of the re-enlistment process is any different whether I am still in the IRR, or if my initial contract expires. Either way I know I am going to have to go through the whole process basically again, just seeing how fast I am going to have to act.

There is a slight difference. Technically right now you ARE an AET3 in the CG. When you are discharged at the end of your 8 years, you will be a CIVILIAN who USED TO BE and AET in the CG. With AET on the ORL, that may be a moot point. You didn't mention how far you live from a AD AET billet.

I currently live in Southern Wisconsin. I am not too worried as to where I would get stationed, just trying to get back on Active Duty. I would obviously prefer to go back to a 65 unit, since I left as a fully qualified flight mechanic. I have already left a messege for the local recruiter this morning, so hopefully I can get the ball rolling.

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Originally posted by Mightyz90_93:
There is a slight difference. Technically right now you ARE an AET3 in the CG. When you are discharged at the end of your 8 years, you will be a CIVILIAN who USED TO BE and AET in the CG. With AET on the ORL, that may be a moot point. You didn't mention how far you live from a AD AET billet.

I just completed this process myself. I was in a drilling status, but it may the same for IRR. I used the fast track program. Basically I went to a recruiter and re-applied to the CG. Filled out all the applications, background paperwork...etc. It is pretty easy as long as you are still under contract. If there is a billet available, you will come back in as a AET3, with a shiny new active duty contract. But you have to be willing to go anywhere......that is one of the stipulations. It was a pretty easy process....took about a month. I think once you let your contract expire it is a lot harder to get back in. If you have any questions let me know.

Matt

hello, i am currently trying to join the Coast Guard out of IRR from the Marine Corps. AST is in my future. It took me a while to hear back from the command after i faxed a Form for Conditional Release from IRR. However, since that happened i am eligeble to join the coast guard. i was just wondering if anyone could link me too the coast guard recruiting manual so that i can see what is supposed to happen. i am getting alot of greif or better yet no work from the recruiter. ive done all the recruiting for him other than talk to meps. my recruiter never calls me back when i ask him to and now he went on a week or two of leave, kindof leavinf=g me stranded with another recruiter. i would like it if someone could tell me where i can find a viewable copy of the recruiting manual so i can go in the office two steps ahead and have things ready.

If you are trying to stay "two steps ahead" of your Recruiter, you will be very disappointed in the process. Even if you had the Recruiting Manual, there is a lot of guidance that we have to follow that is not always in the manual.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that you are eligible for enlistment until you have an actual approved training reservation. The only way you can get that is through your Recruiter, so don't go burning bridges.

Here is a good website that may answer some of your IRR questions.

http://www.uscg.mil/RPM/irr/

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hello, i am currently trying to join the Coast Guard out of IRR from the Marine Corps. AST is in my future. It took me a while to hear back from the command after i faxed a Form for Conditional Release from IRR. However, since that happened i am eligeble to join the coast guard. i was just wondering if anyone could link me too the coast guard recruiting manual so that i can see what is supposed to happen. i am getting alot of greif or better yet no work from the recruiter. ive done all the recruiting for him other than talk to meps. my recruiter never calls me back when i ask him to and now he went on a week or two of leave, kindof leavinf=g me stranded with another recruiter. i would like it if someone could tell me where i can find a viewable copy of the recruiting manual so i can go in the office two steps ahead and have things ready.

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hello, i am currently trying to join the Coast Guard out of IRR from the Marine Corps. AST is in my future. It took me a while to hear back from the command after i faxed a Form for Conditional Release from IRR. However, since that happened i am eligeble to join the coast guard. i was just wondering if anyone could link me too the coast guard recruiting manual so that i can see what is supposed to happen. i am getting alot of greif or better yet no work from the recruiter. ive done all the recruiting for him other than talk to meps. my recruiter never calls me back when i ask him to and now he went on a week or two of leave, kindof leavinf=g me stranded with another recruiter. i would like it if someone could tell me where i can find a viewable copy of the recruiting manual so i can go in the office two steps ahead and have things ready.

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hello, i am currently trying to join the Coast Guard out of IRR from the Marine Corps. AST is in my future. It took me a while to hear back from the command after i faxed a Form for Conditional Release from IRR. However, since that happened i am eligeble to join the coast guard. i was just wondering if anyone could link me too the coast guard recruiting manual so that i can see what is supposed to happen. i am getting alot of greif or better yet no work from the recruiter. ive done all the recruiting for him other than talk to meps. my recruiter never calls me back when i ask him to and now he went on a week or two of leave, kindof leavinf=g me stranded with another recruiter. i would like it if someone could tell me where i can find a viewable copy of the recruiting manual so i can go in the office two steps ahead and have things ready.

15 years ago, I did most of my own recruiting to join the Coast Guard. Just because you have a signed DD368 does not make you fully eligible to join the Coast Guard. You need to be fully qualified for that to happen.

What exactly have you done to date in the process, beside get a signed dd368? Have you ASVAB'd, done the MEPS physical?

Not sure what you would get from the CG RECMAN, what do you want to know?

On a side note, aren't recruiters entitled to take leave like every other member? CPO Kalbach, prior Navy/Army Guard

Did you give the Recruiter:

1.DD Form 214
2.DD-368 (If approved and granted. What's the release date valid until?)
3.USMEPCOM Form 680-3A-E (The Recruiter will fill this form out for you, you will sign)
4.DD Form 2807-2 Medical Pre-Screen Form

Recruiters will submit these forms to the MEPS.

Once the information is submitted to the MEPS and your information has been transfered to the Coast Guard (GPR) from the prior service componet at MEPS. The MEPS medical staff will review your medical information (Medical supporting documentation from consults,private physicians)Medical Pre-Screen. If it clears, the CG Recruiter will set-up the ASVAB Test and MEPS physical for you.

Note: Your still in the IRR with the prior service componet until you ship to PITSTOP at Cape May.

If you completed all the above, you should be ready for the ASVAB/MEPS Physical.

There are plenty of things you could be working on right now while the Recruiter is enjoying some time off or taking care of some family matters.

Make copies of:

Personal documentation used to verify requirements, education (High School Diploma, College Transcrips), Drivers Lic. SSN Card(s), Marriage Certificates, Vaccination Records, Dep. Birth Cert., SGLI forms, DD 2020 Dependancy Forms, Direct Deposit Form, CG-4891 Financial Obligation, Police Records Checks DD-369, SF-86 Form (start the paper copy), E-qip (Recruiter will register you in the E-quip system), etc.

Most of these forms you can Google or visit the below website for some of the forms. Contact the Recruiter and let them know you have this website and ask which forms they need. The Recruiter's use most of these forms for both Enlisted and Officer programs.

http://gocoastguard.com/find-your-fit/officer-opportuni...-forms-and-deadlines

Here is some information about PITSTOP:

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/capemay/PSTP.htm

You don't need the Recruiter Manual, start working on the above information. Contact the Recruiter when he/she gets back into the office and let them know you want to make an appointment. "How was your leave?" would be a great start to the conversation.
Followed by.. "This is what I have been doing to help my enlistment process."

Get busy and good luck.

Some other notes for you:

We do not look for fully qualified people. We look for the BEST qualified.

You are not entitled to employment by the CG, we are an employer of choice. We may choose you or we may not choose you.

You may believe your USMC service may entitle you to some step up over others. Not 100% true. You also bring negatives with that. For example - we got to eat all of that USCM time in regards to retirement eligibility out of our budget - for the next 20, 30, 40 or 50 years.

As others have said - you have only cleared SOME of the hurdles. Retention Standards and Accesion Standards are different even w/i the CG and they are surely different between USMC Retention Standards and CG accesion standards.

Some of the qualities that we believe a Coastie demonstrates more so than some of the other services are being a self-starter and being persistant. Your questions smells a little like you are trying to outsmart the Rec and demonstrates a bit of an air of entitlement. Even if that is a bad perception, then you need to change so that our perception of you changes.

Finally, don't overestimate yourself or under estimate what and who our ASTs are. You may desire to ATTEMPT to become an AST, but it is NOT in your future yet. (In the event that any aviator reads this, I am going to claim someone hacked my computer and that I didn;t just speak highly of aviators! )

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You don't need the Recruiter Manual, start working on the above information. Contact the Recruiter when he/she gets back into the office and let them know you want to make an appointment. "How was your leave?" would be a great start to the conversation.
Followed by.. "This is what I have been doing to help my enlistment process."

Awesome Luke!!! CPO Kalbach