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I read on a website that all services including the Coast Guard can attend jump school and earn there wings for parachuting. Is this true?
 
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If I recall what my 4th grade teacher (Mrs Kane) tried to knock into my head, the correct answer to your question as asked is 'yes' you can.

If you were to ask may a Coastie do it - then the answer would probably be no. With the exception of CG Academy Cadets doing a short exchange prgram with the West Point'ers, it does not happen.
 
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ASM's went to riggers school in lakehuerst and sign a waver saying they would complete a jump at the end of the A school training. We were all set to jump lined up and fully geared in the drop zone waiting to get into a CH53 and at the last moment we got cancelled because of winds. Too many jumpers ended up in the trees. I think you need to complete 5 jumps under orders to get your jump wings but I am no positively sure of it.
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I read on a website that all services including the Coast Guard can attend jump school and earn there wings for parachuting. Is this true?


Another spin on Master Chiefs post. Is it possible? Yes, anything is possible. Is it probable or likely? No. CPO Kalbach
 
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Again, you should look into the Army if you have a burnung desire to regularly jump out of airplanes.
 
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Yes, all services are eligible to attend the 3 week long "Airborne" school. Years ago when I went through there was actually a coastie in my stick (if ya went to the school ya' know what that is).
I also met a few in Central America. From what I gather they where pre-MSST types. They had gone through some of the same training that I had as a soldier in the Army.
But..And this is a J-Lo sized one...you most probably will never see a coastie going to school and doubtful that you will see a coastie that wears wings...legally at least.
I am not authorized to wear my wings in a Coastie uniform but I still do, just hidden.
Others posters are correct. Join the Army if you want a Parachutist badge.
 
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Yes some websites do advertise that you can Earn (CLEP) Jump wings. These are not Official under the UCMJ. No Ft.Benning=Fake Wings.

Yes their was a CG Master Chief who earned the airborne wings but that was under some agreement with Army Senior Enlisted Academy based at Fort Benning.

I have checked with the Airborne Forumns and the Typical Response to Paratrooper Posers is a severe Beat Down.

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It depends on what unit you go to. I know both an LTJG and a couple of ET's and MK's who are /were assigned to a LEDET team and to the unit down in Camp Lejeune and all went to Airborne school. Good luck.!!
 
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Yes some websites do advertise that you can Earn (CLEP) Jump wings. These are not Official under the UCMJ. No Ft.Benning=Fake Wings.

Yes their was a CG Master Chief who earned the airborne wings but that was under some agreement with Army Senior Enlisted Academy based at Fort Benning.

I have checked with the Airborne Forumns and the Typical Response to Paratrooper Posers is a severe Beat Down.

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What does the Uniform Code of Military Justice have to do with it?
 
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Article 134 covers wearing awards not authorized.
 
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Article 134 covers wearing awards not authorized.


So am I to understand that the LTJG, the ET's and MK's that did finished Airborne school on CG orders cannot wear the wings?? If that is the case then someone needs to tell the CG CO of Camp Lejeune and make his people take them off. But then I think they are allowed to wear it as long as it was on CG time, not prior service.
 
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So am I to understand that the LTJG, the ET's and MK's that did finished Airborne school on CG orders cannot wear the wings??


No.

Any Coastie attending a DoD qualification school (such as AF Weather Spotter or Army Airborne schools) as a member of the CG can wear the DoD badge earned.

Though, I figure more MSST or MSRT crew will attend more Air Assault Schools than Airborne schools.

IMHO.
 
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So am I to understand that the LTJG, the ET's and MK's that did finished Airborne school on CG orders cannot wear the wings??


No.

Any Coastie attending a DoD qualification school (such as AF Weather Spotter or Army Airborne schools) as a member of the CG can wear the DoD badge earned.

Though, I figure more MSST or MSRT crew will attend more Air Assault Schools than Airborne schools.

IMHO.


I understand your point. I actually knew that but most coasties hate the fact that you can wear stuff like that. I do not know why but I guess it is a culture thing. And I agree that they should be going to Air Assault School instead of Airborne.

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Article 134 covers wearing awards not authorized.

But doesn't cover which awards are authorized or not as he stated.
 
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Article 134 covers wearing awards not authorized.

But doesn't cover which awards are authorized or not as he stated.


Not to mention that wings are not awards.
 
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I understand your point. I actually knew that but most coasties hate the fact that you can wear stuff like that. I do not know why but I guess it is a culture thing. And I agree that they should be going to Air Assault School instead of Airborne.


I doubt most coasties hate the fact that you can wear that stuff. They just demand that you don't wear them unless you actually 'can.' In other words, I, being the butthead that I normaly am, have no issue with someone wearing one of these as long as they are authorized to by COAST GUARD regs. People that wear them becuase they THINK they should be able to and don't care that the KNOW they may not are the folks that chap my butt! Wink
 
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In the words of an old grizzled Navy Master Chief Master Diver buddy of mine “son, there’s only two things that fall from the sky; bird s#!t and fools”. And in another colorful exchange with an aviator type, “Sir there’s way more planes on the bottom of the ocean then there are salvage ships in the sky”. Pretty good perspective.
Cheers!
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I understand your point. I actually knew that but most coasties hate the fact that you can wear stuff like that. I do not know why but I guess it is a culture thing. And I agree that they should be going to Air Assault School instead of Airborne.


I doubt most coasties hate the fact that you can wear that stuff. They just demand that you don't wear them unless you actually 'can.' In other words, I, being the butthead that I normaly am, have no issue with someone wearing one of these as long as they are authorized to by COAST GUARD regs. People that wear them becuase they THINK they should be able to and don't care that the KNOW they may not are the folks that chap my butt! Wink


I agree MC. But most of the CG guys i have met in my 4 years wearing blue do hate or maybe highly dislike us wearing other services awards, ribbons and/or a badges. And like you I really do not care as long as the CG approves the wear of such award, ribbon or badge. Still even if it is approved SOME do take issue with it.

If you all see my profile I can tell you this, of all those ribbons I have, I can wear only so many of them based on CG regs. Of course i do wear the ones I cannot underneath my flaps. Wink
 
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Your shipmates doing the wrong thing probably bring down some wrath upon you. A vast majority of folks wear those when they know they aren't suposed too. I get a kick out of folks who reply to me to the effect "So what's your excuse for wearing an AF Ach medal?" Well, it's pretty simple! A USAF General saw fit to award me the USAF Ach for something I did as a Caostie.

You see the same thing even with CG awards/devices. A JO wearing a coxn pin will ALWAYS get challenged by me. Usually with a question like "Hello sir - mind me asking what you did before OCS?" Why? Becuase if they are not an OCS grad prior enlisted, they may not wear a coxn pin. So will any person wearing a SWO or ESWS pin. "Hey how did you end up getting an exchange tour with the USN?" That one usually stumps them and they fall into the trap! "I didn't, I did XX years USN before joining the CG!" Well, then, don't let me see that pin. Very few of the people wearing these things we are talking about are wearing them legitamately, under CG Regs, so some folks get frustrated and psuedo attack that smal percentage that actual are legit!
 
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