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I am sure that this has probably been brought up here before, but could not find anything when doing a search, so here it goes.

My enlistment is up in July, 08. I am also transferring in AY08. I know that when I receive my orders in Jan/Feb I will have to obligate service. I would like to reenlist as close to July 21st as possible for the purpose of a SRB. My question is can I just extend in Feb/Mar for my OBLISERVE then reenlist in July? This is the way I understand the PERSMAN to read but the Yeoman I have talked to seem unsure.

Thanks for any info.
 
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I just ran in to this issue. You can cancel an extention for a bonus as long as you are not in that extentenion. I had to cancel mine last month so I cound reenlist for a zone B. I am almost positive that you can obligate for a position then cancel to reenlist.
 
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BUT.......
You do NOT get your SRB for that portion of the 'extension' that you canceled! You have already commited to that, so we would need to give you a Selective Re-Enlistment Bribe! Sit down with a Senior YN and do out the math. The amount of OBLISERV for the orders varied depending on your time in and location of the billet. Take the amount of OBLISERV, that you might not get an SRB for and compare that to the amount of remaining active duty time that you won't get a SRB for. One way you may loose 4 months, another 9 months. Do NOT sign a piece of paper syaing you understand your SRB entitlements until you actually understand them!
 
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Exactly, I lost eight month worth of bouns. I knew that gong into it. I reenlisted due to my orders. I have an ealry transfer and I needed to obligate time. I just canceled my extention early.
 
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Thanks to everyone for the replies. My next question then is when do you have to OBLISERVE? Does it just have to be before you execute orders?

Thanks again for any info.
 
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It should say on your orders, but normally yes, before executing.
 
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Thanks Master Chief, thats what I thought.
 
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Was there a recent change to the SRB? Because I had to extend 1 year for orders to a 110'. Prior to the start of my extension, I cancelled my extension and re-enlisted for 6 years and got a full bonus. No time/money was subtracted from the total. Just thought I throw in my experience with it.

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Jason
 
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Here's one to wrap your mind around.....

A member must obligate 2 years for advancement to E-7. Can you re-enlist the same day you take advancement? What pay-grade is your bonus for? E-7 or E-6?
Persman says SRB is calculated by using the base pay from the day immediately preceeding the re-enlistment. The way I read that, you would get your old pay grade multiple/base pay VS your new multiple/base pay. Im doing this math "for a friend" Wink and the difference a day makes in this situation is Ten thousand dollars, so I thought id put the feelers out and see if anyone has any experience/ideas....

////EM1 SENDS
 
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Although the situation you describe would be rare, ther is proabbly ways to handle it. Today, it is very rare for an E-7 to EVER re-enlist and it is rare that an E-7 owuld be within zone B to get a SRB. In that rare occasion, there could probably be multiple ways to handle it. First thing is that the 'obligation' could be handled with a page-7, with the member noting their understanding of their obligation. The re-enlistment could happen at a later date.
 
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I guess the bigger hurdle right now is getting inside that 2 years obligated service. If I dont get inside of that then there is no bonus at all. I could very well be the ONLY person hoping for no advancements in my rate right now. But for 20-30 grand..... sorry guys Frown

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I have never re-enlisted. I OBLISERV for 23 months to fulfill my current orders. I simply would ask anyone monitoring this chat if I am still eligible for ZONE A SRB, or did my OBLISERV "bump" me into another ZONE? Thank anyone for thier help.
 
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OS2 - you need to give more info. Obligated 23 months from when? Are you currently serving under your orginal 4 or 6 years? Are you erving in the extension? How much time will you have when you obliservis over? And finally, since the SRB for OS is determined by taking your base pay on the day before you re-enlist, multplying that by the number of 'new months' you re-enlist for, dividing that number by tweleve and finally multiple that number by zero, it may be a moot point right now.
 
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Mighty- I currently have 4years 3months of service. I have 20 more months left on my OBLISERV. My EAOS is MAR2010 and at that point I will have 6 years without a re-elistment. I plan to re-enlist at my 5year 11month mark of service (which would be FEB2010). My number one question is the definition, or criteria, for qualifing for ZONE A and if my OBLISERV affects my ZONE? (Can't find it anywhere in the DTG 30JAN2007 SRB NAVADMIN or any of its References) I of course hope that ZONE A criteria is soley based on Years in service and is not affected by my OBLISERV (a type of extension). I am currently stationed at C6F in Naples and our CCC and NCC are not available. Mighty, thank you for any guidance you can offer.
 
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OK, now that I see your duty location and checked your profile, all I can say is no one here will have a clue. This is a CG board and SRB rules are governed by the service. Using the above example and COAST GUARD regs, you wold qualify at the Zone A rate and be paid for all but one months of your enlistment.
 
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Thanks Master Chief. I will continue to look for my Navy answer! I hope it coincides with the CG side of the house!
 
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