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AM_not_AMT
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What is the new $0.50 deduction labeled AFRH on my LES? If it's what I think it is why am I paying for a retirement home I may never use? Can I cancel it?
 
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Wray
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They are letting all the aviation guys help pay for a new hanger in Corpus...
 
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Several pieces of information are available at PPC's website. See http://www.uscg.mil/ppc/ and search on AFRH.

On a tangent, I wonder how those folks who lost sleep, couldn't buy groceries, and had their morale trampled on with the last change to their pay are going to fare with twenty-five cents less each payday. No good transferring to the Navy on this one since they've been paying the fifty cents a month for years.
 
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ALCOAST 055/11 came out in mid February with some answers. Item 7. lists several links with more information including one on MCPOCG's site. I think it's a good step for the CG toward catching up with some of the requirements and benefits of the DOD services. It has been almost 10 years, but I still remember the 'look' I received from some Marine Corps friends when they heard the CG didn't contribute....
 
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it's only $60 a year for something that benefits those that have sacrificed for our country... I think I can do without that extra candy bar a month...
 
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AFRH

So that is where UCMJ fines and reductions in pay go - never new that. Never knew that.
 
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Originally posted by THREEFLYS:
it's only $60 a year for something that benefits those that have sacrificed for our country... I think I can do without that extra candy bar a month...


if its .50 a month then that is a whopping $6.00 a year.
 
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OK well if I am paying something for the DOD then I think that the Coast Guard should be entitled to the same benefits as the DOD with regards to the military onesource program which is offered to the DOD. Oh and do not give me because the Coast Guard has their own program, and did not buy into the system. The one source program has alot to offer families including ones in remote locations with free YMCA memberships which for me would save my family $700.00 a year.
 
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Two issues...

If you're retired you're not paying for the AFRH. The messages and news releases indicate that it's an allotment paid by active duty personnel.

Second, if you're retired, you wouldn't be eligible for the YMCA/DoD offer which is for active duty personnel.

Looks like this is a bit of an apples and oranges situation.
 
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Not retired and and still it irks me they say the CG is not part of the DOD but yet we are paying for something that is directly related to something the DOD started, and I wounder just how many CoastGuardsman are in the Retirement home. Do not get me wrong I think it is a great idea however I think the Coast Guard should be treated the same as the DOD if we are paying for something that was started for them. Your right if I was retired I would not be eligible for the YMCA program but I am not so I have every right to complain about it.
 
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Just going by your profile...
 
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The Coast Guard just bought into this program. DHS (and Before that DOT and Treasury) get to decide their own programs for the CG. Tell your Congress critter that you want USCG to have the same programs.
 
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if $6 a year is a lot too lose for some folks, put it against your taxes.
 
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I am a resident of the Armed Forces Retirement Home (AFRH) in Washington. There are probably less than 10 retired CG residents. Retired ex-active duty comprise about 60% of the residents with the majority being E-6 at time of retirement. All residents pay a fee based on 35% to 60% their TOTAL income based upon the service provided. All ranks are treated the same. There are no retired officers and only a few retired WO's. The homes only income sources are the residents, active duty rank and file contributions, Court Martial and Art15 fines, plus interest on the AFRH Fund. There are currently two homes, one in Washington, DC and the other, recently rebuilt, in Gulfport, MS (The ex-Naval Home). We even have a few female residents who are retired military and several wives of residents who qualified on their own based on pre-1948 active service. Go to the URL AFRH for additional info.
 
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I am a resident of the Armed Forces Retirement Home (AFRH) in Washington. There are probably less than 10 retired CG residents. Retired ex-active duty comprise about 60% of the residents with the majority being E-6 at time of retirement. All residents pay a fee based on 35% to 60% their TOTAL income based upon the service provided. All ranks are treated the same. There are no retired officers and only a few retired WO's. The homes only income sources are the residents, active duty rank and file contributions, Court Martial and Art15 fines, plus interest on the AFRH Fund. There are currently two homes, one in Washington, DC and the other, recently rebuilt, in Gulfport, MS (The ex-Naval Home). We even have a few female residents who are retired military and several wives of residents who qualified on their own based on pre-1948 active service. Go to the URL AFRH for additional info. I'm nopt quite sure what all the complaining is about snyway. For less than the price of a cup of coffee and a large monthly fee you get cared for when no one else wants you around.
 
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I lose more that this in the washing machine every month. Eek

Gotta be something more significant to complain about..... Roll Eyes
 
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Geez...ain't that the truth.

Twenty-five cents to take care of those who came before us...the Americans who stormed ashore on Normandy and Iwo Jima, who fought the North Koreans and Chinese, who slogged through the jungles of Viet Nam and even those who simply stood the watch and did their duty. The OP is right... HE may never need the retirement home, but others do. Put aside the narcissistic attitude and think outside of yourself.
 
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I agree, 25 cents going to a worthy cause. Can't argue with that. They deserve more!

But....does this open the door for more? How about mandatory CGMA donations. What about the red cross? All are worthy organizations/programs but shouldn't the choice to donate money be left up to the individual?
 
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BMENG,

Apples & oranges. The AFRH is part of the government, located within the Executive Branch. It's not a "charity" such as the Red Cross or CGMA. The monthly fee is not a donation.

As an aside, I find the original poster's comment interesting..."why am I paying for a retirement home I may never use?" In my dealing with CGMA while on active duty, and another of the service-related charities since retiring, many of the people who do use the assistance never donate. Ironically, they're using the service and never paying.
 
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many of the people who do use the assistance never donate. Ironically, they're using the service and never paying.


my understanding is cgma is like in interest free loan, meaning it gets paid back in full. what about those people that donate to it who never use it and only get the satisfaction that other are?
 
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