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Last time i was on a ship, i was a non-rate and I don't think the DMR was in place yet. Trying to figure out how it works now while being deployed on a ship and BAS. I understand the Discounted Meal Rate (DMR), but trying to figure out if you continue to receive BAS.
My question, Do you continue to receive BAS while assigned to the ship? While deployed, you pay $7.95 a day or is it automatically deducted from your pay? And, one more, When at home port and living on the economy, do I continue to pay the $7.95 daily, or is this only charged on 24 hour duty or at all? Trying to figure out my new pay for my next PCS. Thanks in advance for the help. |
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Looking around at some of the other forums, it looks like you don't get BAS at all while assigned to a ship. Is that the case? Seems a bit odd that you wouldnt receive it while in homeport. Or are you just expected to eat on the boat every day while assigned?
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All enlisted members, excluding those in accession training (boot camp, for one) receive $294.43 per month BAS. If assigned to an "essential messing unit", which includes a ship with a galley, the Discount Meal Rate (DMR) is applied. The DMR is $8.35 a day. The DMR is automaticallydeducted from your BAS. So in a 30 day month, you'd receive only about $44 in BAS. In port, underway, living aboard or living ashore, with or without dependents, the DMR is still deducted. The only time the DMR deduction stops is; While you're on leave. While you are on TDY orders to a non-sea pay, non essential-messing unit. There's also a process to reimburse you if you miss a meal. Let's say you are going to some training, but it's in the same city as your home port, and there's no galley at the training site, you'd probably have to buy your own lunch because you're not going to be able to make it back to the ship, eat, and make back to class in time. In a case like that you'd receive a portion of the $8.35 that was deducted for that day's DMR back, not the actual cost of your lunch. Check with your YN for more info.
Note: The rates quoted above are 2008 rates, they'll go up a little in 2009. V/r R.Etheridge, YNCS, USCG (Ret.) U.S. Coast Guard, Personnel Service Center, Topeka, KS Web Content Manager Procedures and Development Branch (PD) This is an official United States Coast Guard posting for the public's information. Our posting does not endorse this site or anything on it, including links to other sites, and we disclaim responsibility and liability for the site and its content |
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To help anyone understand the theory behind the policy:
It is the responsibility of the Govt to feed people. The prefered method (becuase it is cheaper) is to do that by providing the option to eat the Gov'ts food. Only when that is not reasonable for some reason, do they provide monetary options. The first monetary option is to provide you money to buy the 'raw ingredients' for you to cook. If that is not reasonable (like the situation Senior described above) then they provide money to buy the 'prepared version,' which is the most expensive. So, if you remember that the 'base' is to provide you with Gov't prepared food, the policies start to make sense. The other half of that is to remember that they provide the MEMBER and the MEMBER only, food. Nobody else. |
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Man.... that kind of sucks. So basically, when you are assigned to a unit with a mess facility, even though you live on the economy, you are expected to report to an from the ship for 3 squares a day? I understand that BAS is designated for members only, I get that. But what is kind of crappy about it is, when I'm in homeport, living on the economy with my family, the government still expects me to eat on the ship and not with my wife and kids. Just seems strange how they came to that conclusion.
But, no need crying over spilled milk, it is what it is. Thanks for the input.. |
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Also one thing to think about is if your galley goes down for more than a day for maintenance or any other reason then you will receive BAS without the DMR being deducted... |
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....they don't exect you to eat aboard, but they will allow you to do so. |
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This seems to be an on going issue that people have!! I had an uneducated Non Petty Officer complaing to me about this years ago! I do not expect you to come back to the ship to eat...as Master Chief put it...however, if you choose to you can. If assigned to a ship (enlisted) you are on SIK...not BAS. Meaning, you are not entitled to the money. I look at it like this...use your sea pay... BAS is for the member anyhow...not the family. |
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You could get out of the CG and find a job and see if that job will give you "food money" for you let alone your family.   GUNS   |
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To the last 2 posters, I guess you both missed this part of my statement. But thanks though for your contributions and for making one feel free to become "educated" |
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Thanks This message has been edited. Last edited by: CommsChek78, |
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My point is those in the civilian world use their paychecks to buy food for their families and those paychecks don't come with extra benifits such as we get. A lot of people "cry poor" in the military, but really, look at your paycheck, the benfits that you do NOT have to pay for, and tell me are we really that underpayed? Now don't get me wrong, I AM ALL FOR THOSE YEARLY PAY RAISES AND WHATEVER CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT WANT TO GIVE US!   GUNS |
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Well they dont want you to come back to the cutter to eat every night when you are in port but the option is there for you to. But you are also getting sea pay, and in most cases it is way more than BAS, I much rather have my sea pay than the BAS.
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A lot of people "cry poor" in the military, but really, look at your paycheck, the benfits that you do NOT have to pay for, and tell me are we really that underpayed? Now don't get me wrong, I AM ALL FOR THOSE YEARLY PAY RAISES AND WHATEVER CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT WANT TO GIVE US!
GUNS [/QUOTE]I agree with your points, but I still think its bogus that officers only have to pay for the meals they eat onboard cutters. |
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I think the BAS rate should be the same for everyone.
Officers $223.04/month Enlisted Members $323.87/month |
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So you would rather get an extra $100 and be charged for every meal the galley served instead of the meals you ate?
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Well BAS reform made things better for the Enlisted members. At least now when you are assigned shore duty you automatically get BAS (unless you are in boot camp or A school) wasn't that way before.
Officers have been getting shortchanged on BAS for over 25 years. If the allowance is suppose to be about feeding the member then the amount should be the same. |
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I am in the same situation as the original post, going from shore to ship. Add going from West Coast to East coast and I am losing BAS, COLA, and one hell of a BAH rate. Now back when I was on a ship, I did not get sea pay at all. So can someone break down how much I will get for sea pay as an E6? It looks like you get more, the more your u/w. Does my non rated sea time from before count?
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As an Officer underway, you will get charged one lunch or dinner weather you eat it or not!!! Its in the regs.  So we dont only get charged for the food we eat... sometimes we get charged for the food we DONT eat... I also agree with the Commander... BAS should be the same amount for every member. |
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Military.com Forums Coast Guard Discussions Pay, Investing and Retirement Planning Sea Duty and BAS Question
