Will our january mid month paycheck be pro rated for the first 2 weeks of the 2008 BAH pay?

Thanks

Our pay on the 15th is for service from the 1st through the 14th, meaning that the 15th paycheck is the 1st of the year and will reflect the 2008 pay raise.

Actually since the President vetoed the Defense bill the pay raise was not passed.

Will see the BAH increase.

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Originally posted by StaggerLee77:
Our pay on the 15th is for service from the 1st through the 14th, meaning that the 15th paycheck is the 1st of the year and will reflect the 2008 pay raise.

Ok thanks, that is what I thought was the case but some other people were telling me otherwise.
Regarding the pay rase, I thought it was just lowered to 3% instead of 3.5%? So he cancelled it all together?

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Originally posted by s12345:
Regarding the pay rase, I thought it was just lowered to 3% instead of 3.5%?

That is correct.

This is what I found when searching for an answer on military.com:

President Bush's veto of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2008 postpones the expected 3.5 percent across the board raise passed by Congress. However, due to an existing law, servicemembers are guaranteed a pay increase, which means military servicemembers will see an across-the-board pay increase of 3.0 percent in their Jan. 15, 2008 pay checks.

White House officials have stated that they will work with Congress to make sure the additional 0.5 percent pay raise is approved and retroactive to Jan. 1 under a reworked NDAA. Compare the 2008 3.0 and 3.5 percent military pay charts.

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SUBJ: FY2008 MILITARY PAY AND BENEFITS
A. TITLE 37 USC, SECTION 1009(C)
B. PERSONNEL MANUAL, COMDTINST M1000.6 (SERIES)
C. COMDT COGARD WASHINGTON DC 051932Z FEB 07, ALCOAST 064/07
D. JOINT FEDERAL TRAVEL REGULATIONS (JFTR)
1. GENERAL:
A. THE ABSENCE OF A NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT (NDAA) AS
OF 31 DEC 2007 AFFECTED THE INCREASE TO BASIC PAY EFFECTIVE 1 JAN
2008. THIS ALCOAST DISCUSSES THE RESULTING IMPACT ON THE 2008
MILITARY BASIC PAY INCREASE AND OTHER BASIC ALLOWANCE RATES THAT
HAVE GONE INTO EFFECT ON 1 JAN 2008.
B. AUTHORITY TO PAY ACTIVE DUTY AND RESERVE BONUSES USED BY THE
COAST GUARD TO SHAPE OUR MILITARY WORK FORCE EXPIRED ON 31 DEC
2007. THIS ALCOAST PROVIDES INTERIM GUIDANCE FOR ADMINISTRATION OF
THOSE BONUSES UNTIL THE ENACTMENT OF A FY08 NDAA OR OTHER
LEGISLATION RESTORES OUR AUTHORITY TO MAKE THOSE BONUS PAYMENTS.
C. OTHER PAY AND BENEFIT CHANGES CONTAINED IN THE CURRENT 2008
DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION BILL WILL BE THE SUBJECT OF A FUTURE ALCOAST
ONCE THE BILL IS SIGNED INTO LAW.
2. PAY AND ALLOWANCES.
A. BASIC PAY CHANGES.
(1) JANUARY BASIC PAY RAISE - SINCE THE 2008 DEFENSE
AUTHORIZATION BILL WAS NOT SIGNED INTO LAW, THE 1 JAN 2008 BASIC
PAY RAISE WILL BE 3.0 PERCENT ACROSS-THE-BOARD, PER REF A, INSTEAD
OF THE PROPOSED THREE AND A HALF (3.5) PERCENT PAY RAISE.
(2) THE PLANNED 3.5 PERCENT PAY RAISE, AND ITS POSSIBLE
RETROACTIVE PAYMENT, IS DEPENDENT UPON FUTURE LEGISLATIVE ACTION.
B. BASIC ALLOWANCE FOR HOUSING (BAH).
(1) IN 2008, BAH RATES REFLECT A NATIONAL AVERAGE INCREASE FOR
THE COAST GUARD OF 7.0 PERCENT OVERALL. HOWEVER, ACTUAL BAH RATES
WITHIN EACH MILITARY HOUSING AREA (MHA) AND COUNTY COST GROUP VARY
ACCORDING TO LOCAL RENTAL MARKET CONDITIONS. DOD BAH POLICY CHANGES
THAT ELIMINATED GEOGRAPHIC BAH RATE PROTECTION IN 2006 RESULTED IN
RATE INCREASES OR REDUCTIONS THAT WERE VALIDATED BY THE ANNUAL
RENTAL HOUSING COST DATA SURVEY. INDIVIDUAL RATE PROTECTION
PREVENTS THE DECREASE OF AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS BAH RATE AS A RESULT
OF CHANGES IN HOUSING COSTS IN AN MHA, CHANGES IN THE NATIONAL
MONTHLY HOUSING COST, OR A MEMBERS PROMOTION. RATE-PROTECTED
SERVICE MEMBERS WILL RECEIVE ANY PUBLISHED BAH INCREASES, BUT NO
DECREASES. RATE PROTECTION HELPS TO ENSURE THAT THE SERVICE MEMBERS
TYPICAL OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS MAY BE LESS, BUT NEVER MORE, THAN UPON
THEIR REPORTING DATE.
(2) INDIVIDUAL 2008 BAH RATES FOR EACH MILITARY HOUSING AREA AND
PAY GRADE MAY BE VIEWED AT:
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(3) AS A RESULT OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TENTH QUADRENNIAL
REVIEW OF MILITARY COMPENSATION (QRMC), ALL WITHOUT-DEPENDENT BAH
RATES WERE SET WITH A MINIMUM FLOOR EQUAL TO 75 PERCENT OF THE
EQUIVALENT WITH-DEPENDENT RATE OF THE SAME PAY GRADE AND MILITARY
HOUSING AREA (MHA). RATES IN MHAS WHERE THE WITHOUT-DEPENDENT BAH
RATE FOR A GIVEN PAY GRADE WAS ALREADY HIGHER THAN 75 PERCENT OF
THE EQUIVALENT WITH-DEPENDENT RATE ARE UNAFFECTED.
C. BASIC ALLOWANCE FOR SUBSISTENCE (BAS). EFFECTIVE 1 JAN 2008,
BAS WILL INCREASE TO THE FOLLOWING MONTHLY RATES:
(1) OFFICERS: 202.76 USD.
(2) ENLISTED: 294.43 USD.
(3) ENLISTED DAILY DISCOUNT MEAL RATE (DMR) DEDUCTION: 8.35 USD
PER DAY.
D. BONUSES AND SPECIAL PAYS: UNTIL THE FY08 NDAA IS SIGNED, ALL
INCENTIVE, ENLISTMENT, AND REENLISTMENT BONUSES UNDER REFS B AND C
ARE SUSPENDED FOR NEW CONTRACTS AS OF 1 JAN 2008. HOWEVER, THE
FOLLOWING GENERAL GUIDANCE MUST BE FOLLOWED UNTIL THE LEGISLATION
REINSTATING THE REQUIRED AUTHORITIES IS ENACTED:
(1) THE WORDING FOR CONTINGENT BONUS ADDENDUMS STATED BELOW SHALL
BE ADDED TO BOTH ENLISTMENT/REENLISTMENT CONTRACTS AND
ADMINISTRATIVE REMARKS (CG-3307), WHICH ACKNOWLEDGE ELIGIBILITY FOR
A BONUS BUT DOES NOT GUARANTEE A BONUS PAYMENT. THIS WILL ENABLE
BONUSES TO BE PAID AT A LATER DATE WITHOUT FURTHER ACTION BY THE
MEMBER ONCE, OR IF, AUTHORITY IS REESTABLISHED. HOWEVER, WHETHER
PAYMENTS WILL BE RETROACTIVE WILL DEPEND ON HOW CONGRESS REINSTATES
THE LAPSED AUTHORITIES.
(2) ACTIVE DUTY AND RESERVE AGREEMENTS EXECUTED DURING THE PERIOD
OF LAPSED AUTHORITY SHALL NOT INCLUDE BONUS GUARANTEES UNLESS THE
FOLLOWING WORDING FOR THE CONTINGENT BONUS ADDENDUM IS INCLUDED:
(A) BONUSES MUST BE AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS AND ENACTED INTO LAW.
THE AUTHORIZATION FOR PREVIOUS BONUSES EXPIRED ON 31 DEC 2007.
CONGRESS IS CONSIDERING RENEWING THESE AUTHORIZATIONS. THESE
AUTHORIZATIONS MAY BE RETROACTIVE TO 1 JAN 2008, OR THEY MAY TAKE
EFFECT WHEN ENACTED, OR THEY MAY NOT BE ENACTED.
(B) I UNDERSTAND THAT MY ENTITLEMENT TO A (FILL IN THE AMOUNT OR
ZONE) BONUS IS CONTINGENT UPON ENACTMENT OF AUTHORITY FOR THE (FILL
IN APPROPRIATE BONUS PROGRAM). THE POSSIBILITY OF RECEIVING A
BONUS WAS A CONSIDERATION IN MY CONTRACT DECISION. HOWEVER, IF
CONGRESS FAILS TO AUTHORIZE THE (FILL IN APPROPRIATE BONUS
PROGRAM), MY CONTRACT TO SERVE IN THE U.S. COAST GUARD IS STILL
VALID AND ENFORCEABLE. ANY VERBAL REPRESENTATIONS BY ANY BONUS-
PROFFERING PERSONNEL THAT DIFFER FROM THOSE CONTAINED IN THIS
ADDENDUM ARE UNAUTHORIZED AND UNENFORCEABLE.(UNQUOTE)
(C) THIS ADDENDUM AND THE CG-3307 MUST BE SIGNED AND DATED BY
BOTH THE APPLICANT AND A COMMAND REPRESENTATIVE.
(3) THE FOLLOWING LIST OF BONUS AND INCENTIVE PROGRAM AUTHORITIES
EXPIRED 31 DEC 2007:
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1. BONUS FOR AFFILIATION OR ENLISTMENT IN THE SELECTED
RESERVE - 37 USC 308C(I) AND 308I(F), SECTIONS 3-E-5 THRU 3-E-7 OF
REF B.
2. SPECIAL PAY FOR MEMBERS OF THE SELECTED RESERVE ASSIGNED
TO CERTAIN HIGH PRIORITY UNITS - 37 USC 308D(C), REF C.
3. REPAYMENT OF EDUCATIONAL LOANS FOR CERTAIN HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS WHO SERVE IN THE SELECTED RESERVE - 10 USC 16302(D),
REF C.
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SPECIAL PAYS
1. SPECIAL PAY: REENLISTMENT BONUS - 37 USC 308(G), SECTION
3-A OF REF B.
2. SPECIAL PAY: ENLISTMENT BONUS - 37 USC 309(E), SECTION 3-
C OF REF B.
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BILL HAS A NUMBER OF CHANGES TO RETIRED PAY AND OTHER BENEFITS THAT
WILL GO INTO EFFECT WHEN THE BILL IS SIGNED INTO LAW AND WILL BE
THE SUBJECT OF A FUTURE ALCOAST.
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(2) 1 NOV 2007 FOR DOMESTIC HHG SHIPMENTS,
(3) 1 MAR 2008 FOR NON-TEMPORARY STORAGE (NTS) AND DIRECT
PROCUREMENT METHOD (DPM) MOVES (LOCAL MOVES, INTRA-THEATER).
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2008 WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE COVERED FOR FRV. PLEASE SEE THE LINK
ABOVE FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AFFECTING THE NEW PROGRAM.
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(QUOTE)FULL REPLACEMENT VALUE(UNQUOTE). THIS DOES NOT NECESSARILY
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COST OF EVERY ITEM DESTROYED, DAMAGED, OR LOST. IN CASES WHERE THE
REPAIR COST IS LESS THAN THE FRV, THE CARRIER MAY ELECT TO REPAIR
THE DAMAGED ITEM. THE LIMITATIONS FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY LOST,
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SERVICE PROVIDER OR CARRIER ARE 5,000 USD PER SHIPMENT, OR, 4.00
USD TIMES THE NET WEIGHT OF THE SHIPMENT, WHICHEVER IS GREATER, UP
TO A MAXIMUM OF 50,000 USD. IF ADDITIONAL COVERAGE IS NECESSARY,
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5. INTERNET RELEASE AUTHORIZED.
6. RADM CLIFFORD I. PEARSON, ASSISTANT COMMANDANT FOR HUMAN
RESOURCES, SENDS.
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Just got my LES and noticed that the COLA went down. Reason this is a problem is becuase I did a rate query and it was supposed to go up. Any idea on what's up with the COLA?

I believe we are in a recession folks. When they do away with bonuses,and pay raises for military...things have to be really bad. Also,our spending will decrease along with our pay,and the economy is now going to see that. What a nasty situation! Can't wait to pay 3.50-4 bucks a gal for gas. Anyone else feel this way?

In Kodiak we are still paying about $3.37 a gallon for regular unleaded! I'm not sure what is going on with the COLA but I dont think recession is in play quite yet. The housing market has been out of control for 5 years or so, I mean people were getting back 4-8% annualy on their housing investment because the market was so high. I think it's just comming back to earth a little which is great. If the annual inflation is 2% and real estate continued to boom at the 5% rate it was annualy, the market would eventually colapse! Again, I just think it's comming down a bit to level off, aka-stimulate growth! the bonuses for certain ratings will be back, the bonuses going away was just residue of the old NDAA. Now that the new one has been passed, we should give the Coast Guard a chance to go through it and make sure there is nothing else hid in the new NDAA that may obligate the Coast Guard more fiscally than the later. We must be patient! But my father always told me "Only doctors have patients"

I thought that back in March 2008 that the extra .5 pay raise was suppose to be in our retirees pay checks retroactive from the 1st of Jan 2008 and received no later than 30 days later. What is the situation.