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20 days; ignored warning on soliciting. USNVet940 01/03/08 |
I don't know where should i put this topic
My name is Anda Mihaela i am from Romania and i have 21..i have study arts(i paint) and now i study science political.. So in univesity i study about Nato(OTAN),geopolitic etc,and i am here in this forum becouse i would like to learn more about geopolitic My first topic it is about the person behind the war..who make's war?for what reason I think that all the wars in this name have one reason : political power so lets make an example i know that Bush it is good friend with bin laden so imagine that bush drink a coffe with Bin laden and bush say :-my dear friend,my economy in usa is bad,i need some oil -i help u my friend,but lets say that is a war,becouse u must "win" this oil..becouse if i give u this for gift my people will hate me.. what i have to say it isa that in the moment when the people fight,die ,bush and bin laden they walk together etc..they are enemy just on tv u know that bad things sell good.. i think that a revolution ,war it is when people made this..not the political people ,not to make geopolitic.. now are political war,where the people doesn't win nothing,becouse the result it was writing before..so there is no looser or winner(only on tv).. so the think are like that in the country..u give me this,..i give u that..lets play a litle war,conflict,people fight,die and we win what u want.. they come on tv,and they iritate people : look what american do to our children..revenge! and the people ,becouse they belive in the word they start the fight,then the war..becouse the war becouse also with fight..remeber how start the first war where franz ferdinand was killed etc This message has been edited. Last edited by: AndaMihaela, |
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So you think that Bush and Bin Laden are actually friends but just pretend to be enemies? Shut up and go away.
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And exactly why is this sophomoric inflammatory material even still posted here? It's clear the original poster has no ability to discuss anything in English, and just as obviously has little to say of any merit.
HH |
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It's still up because, as sophmoric and asinine as it might appear, it did not overtly violate the TOS and those are the guidelines I have to follow. I also have to follow certain guidelines in editing/deleting posts and/or doing the same with threads. As the poster was suspended and has not, as of yet, requested reinstatement, I doubt that you will be seeing any more posts from him/her.
I cannot arbitrarily edit/delete/move content if it does not violate the TOS, regardless of any personal feelings I may have on a subject. More importantly, I won't do it. |
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Understood, and thanks for the detailed explanation. HH |
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Inflammatory? Sophmoric? She's a Rumianian kid studying in school for gawds sake! She's obviously looking for answers. As she was suspended I guess she'll find none in here. Ok, the Bin Laden/Bush thing may have struck a nerve with some folks, but consider the source please. The girl came here for some education and instead got stung. Too bad. I hope other people whoes first language may not be english dont get treated in this fashion. |
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This is what I read...
I understand your position as moderator to abide by the rules. I don't,(and didn't), see a reason for her suspension listed there. I understand the reasons for not wanting to discuss anything out in the open with anyone about someone. I do. But if you read this thread with a completely objective and un-biased view with no knowledge of past incidents, it appears like a niave girl is looking for answers or debate and get's ripped for it. As the issue really holds no importance to me,(Beyond being surprised at the ripping), I have no desire to keep on with this thread and risk upsetting anyone. I come to these pages to discuss and learn more about issues that interest me. Some rumanian school girl getting a verbal slapping isn't really that important and I'm now sorry I even responded in the first place. Thanks for your response USNVet940, And to re-iterate; I have no desire to stir up trouble. |
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The war has not been profitable for the US but quite the opposite. I can't read any great conspiracy into most wars because the entire history of man has been war without the interference of the super-rich or shadowy organizations.
What really caused WW1 has to be looked at in its own time: In the 19th century, mobilization meant war. That, combined with fatal alliances between the great powers led to the way all of the main countries were sucked in to the war. That doesn't mean that grievances against that Frankenstein creature of a state, Austria-Hungary, weren't legitimite, or so on. If anyone was responsible for escalating the war it was Great Britain, which had resolved to make war with Germany if it ever made war on France....and its determination to go to war for Empire. As any historian would have known, wars will damage Constitutional governments in the long run. England was decimated by its unnecessary war with Germany, and this lead to its disastrous performance in the early days of WW2, which bled the country white, bankrupted it, and cost it an Empire. To say that an all knowing hand directed it into the World Wars for profit would only show that such shadowy organizations are inept and therefore not much to be afraid of. With Iraq, the stated goal was to disarm the most unpredictable and powerful Arab state. If it were for oil, we would be taking it now. On the other hand, the no-bid contract to Halliburton raises many questions that have not been answered, and the irresponsibility of the Executive Office to answer this leads to serious questions as to the true aim of the war. Either way, the idea of Preemptive-Preventative war (by means of spreading Democracy) was discredited by Wilson's intervention in WW1 and the result: WW2 and the further destruction and destabalization of the world. I don't think this is an inescapable conclusion in Iraq, by any means. As a philosophy, it is very poor. |
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Maybe she should do some research on the MARSHALL PLAN !!!!!! A war started by her tryant neighbors in Europe and the Idiots in Asia.
All we did was save their kiesters and pay to rebuid their mess. Oh by the way, maybe she could go visit my uncles Grave in France. |
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Britain was ill-prepared for WWI. And Sir John French was in the process of pulling out Britain's six divisions before the Battle of the Marne. Joffre succeeded in pleading with him to let them stay. German expansionism and militarism was pretty much the main cause. The invaded Belgium and France with a million and a half of the best armed, best trained, and most confident army in the world. But they never did get to Paris. |
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Lets not ignore the Americans role...Grandfather took 3 at Soisson...the second battle of the Marne..in that girded valley of horror. Earning two silvers and nearly dying of gangrene. The stalemate was broken by American blood... The First Division (formerly AEF), 26th Regiment was bourne... Grandfather was 1st, Company M, Blue Spaders...bourne in blood... |
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The US played a key, and probably decisive role. We entered just as the Russians were surrendering and freeing about sixty German divisions for the Western Front.
The German spring offensive in 1918 was massive. One whole Brit army surrendered. In desperation, the Allies appointed Foch CinC. His tactics were eventually successful. Ludendorff lost hope when his assault troops failed to penetrate the French line--owing to Mangin's "defense in depth." FOOTNOTE: One of the reasons for the French fiasco in 1940 was that the lesson they took from WWI was that a well-prepared defense prevails. Thus, the Maginot Line. |
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