anyone remeber Top Gun? how many chances will a screw- up really get? my own limited experience shows that no matter how good you may or may not be, something like buzzing a tower @ over 500 mph would prob get you in a smidge of trouble.

The only reason I ever watched Top Gun was for the F-14's. Other than that, the movie was a farce IMO.

One of the posts villifies the movie "Battle of the Bulge" he's right on the mistakes. But what about all the US Army's field artillery pieces mounted with wooden wagon wheels!! Who the hell was responsible for that? That really gets my goat. Wagon wheels in '44?' C'mon!
My favorite messed up historical movie is "Custer of the Plains" Robert Shaw as George A Custer and Shaw's wife Mary Ure as Libby Custer. That has so many mistakes it is laughable.

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The only reason I ever watched Top Gun was for the F-14's. Other than that, the movie was a farce IMO.

The Tomcats were great but I really liked the A-4 Skyhawks flown by the Topgun instructors. When the movie was made the Fighter Weapons School had scooters and F-5's.

Scootermech, I was stationed at MCAS Yuma on the transit line from 76 to 79, and we used to get the TOP Gun birds in all the time. F-5s, A-4s and IF I remember right some TA-4s also. Man! That's been thirty some years ago! Alot of water under the keel since then!
VMAT-102 was also flying M's at that time. We'd get A-4Ms in from the coast. They were okay until the temperature got above 95 degrees. Pumping that starter back up was the pits, especially that last 1000psi. Yuck! Hated that! Or having to take the aft hell hole door off to hook up the refueling nozzle on any Scooter with a centerline configured. Especially when it was coated with synethic oil!

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Scootermech, I was stationed at MCAS Yuma on the transit line from 76 to 79, and we used to get the TOP Gun birds in all the time. F-5s, A-4s and IF I remember right some TA-4s also. Man! That's been thirty some years ago! Alot of water under the keel since then!
VMAT-102 was also flying M's at that time. We'd get A-4Ms in from the coast. They were okay until the temperature got above 95 degrees. Pumping that starter back up was the pits, especially that last 1000psi. Yuck! Hated that! Or having to take the aft hell hole door off to hook up the refueling nozzle on any Scooter with a centerline configured. Especially when it was coated with synethic oil!

If you saw TA-4J aircraft they were probably from VC-13. The squadron regularly sent detatchments of about 4 aircraft to Yuma. Mostly for banner tow. The banner was a big flag like target for fighter pilots to shoot at.

If the bird had a 150 gallon centerline it was not necessary to remove the door to refuel. With a 300 gallon tank the door had to come off. Or you could gravity fuel. There was a wing and fuselage cap. Just hold the nozzle open. T-birds only held 4200 lbs fuel, internal...

I never worked on the A-4M. I think it was pretty much a Marine bird. The A-4F did not use the onboard APU. The F/A-18A did. I was turn qualed on it at NAS Pt Mugu. Had to pump that thing up a few times. A lot cooler on the coast than at Yuma. Or El Centro for that matter!

We rarely got A-4s with the smaller centerline tanks. Most of the time it was the 300 gallon ones. I was very familiar with those after wrestling around with them in A-6s. Yes, I remember the wing fuel caps. We used to have to open them part way to fuel the bird because of the heat and the fuel expansion.We did most of the time anyway when the temps got above 100 degrees. I used to hate it when the pilots wanted a full bag internally then exactly 150 gallons in each drop tank! What a bag of crap! They'd complain if it was three or four gallons over 150 or under a 150! Oh well those were the days!
I checked with a buddy of mine who was at Yuma with me and the T-birds were from VC-13. He had pictures of them that he taken.

How about Bat 21 anyone see that movie. It's about as far from what happened as a movie can get. Out of 2 hours there may be 5 mins of actual events that went down finding and rescuing Lieutenant Colonel Iceal E."Gene" Hambleton. For your reading pleasue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceal_Hambleton#The_Bat_21_rescue

Actually, Bat 21 followed the book, fairly closely. It was the book that fictionalized what really happened.

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Harlots, the Greeks had loose women fighting with them?

You mean Helots.

Dee Dee Dee! my bad. maybe i should stop relying on Wikipedia (BUT ITS SOOOO EASY!)

and two other ones that are terrible.

Behind Enemy Lines:
Owen Wilson and his curvy nose doing this, while it's not meant to be historical, COME ON!

Windtalkers:
Nicholas Cage mowing down Japanese soldiers firing a Thompson from the hip.

Don't forget the 105 howitzers that didn't recoil when fired.

Lets see if I can jog a few memories.
ost any John Wayne movie. He carried a Model 92 wnichester and a model 73 Colt single action in in movies from the civil war to the shootist. The old movie Bonnie & Clyde had a 1956 ford truck in it. I have to agree withthe person on the movie Pearl harbor. I also remember< Tora, Tora ,tora> they had planes taking off of a bird farm with a canted deck. I think ,and I hate to say it But Patton was one of the worst for phoney equipment. Not a Sherman tank in the movie. Did have an M-32or36 tank retriver. Everything else was 1960's or newer. (tanks) that is.

Hamburger hill anyone?

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/10mosthistoricallyinaccurate.html

Yahoo has just come up with a list of the most historically inaccurate movies. Did you know the Egyptions used wooley mammoths in the desert to construct the pyramids?
It's a good list! Except the last flick which looked into the future.

10,000BC

Gladiator

300

The Last Samurai

Apocalypto

Memoirs of a Geisha

Braveheart

Elizabeth: The Golden Age

The Patriot

2001: A Space Odyssey