i am having trouble finding information regarding camouflage uniforms from WWII to the present, i can only find information on the ACU's tree frog/leopord spot and single-tone uniforms. And for the tactics i can only find Guerrilla warfare and MOUT. I need this information for a school project but can't find much information that's very helpful. any information would be nice.

This link should be of some help, although I don't know how much detail you require for your project. It also gives a number of references which might be further help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_camouflage#World_War_II

this will help me out quite a bit. but i need information more on the lines of how or when they changed the design's for the camouflage. but i might be able to wing it with this. thanks for the link.

does anyone know anything about any of the tactics used from WWII to the present?? i know about Guerrilla Warfare and MOUT but thats all i know of. are those the only tactics used since then or are there more?

Army tactical maneuvers are out of my area of expertise..unless some of them involve 'crossing the T'. You may want to ask over on the Army forums if none of our Army members on the boards here can help.

gentile01

Don't know if this helps but..................

Camouflage Uniforms in WW II
Camouflage uniforms saw limited use by the U.S. Army in World War II. They were much more prevelant with the U.S. Marine Corps in the island campaigns of the Pacific.

USMC WW II Camouflage Uniform
The U.S. Marine Corps used camouflage uniforms and gear in World War II, but only in the Pacific where camo fit naturally with the jungle fighting encountered there.

In the ETO, where few Marines were deployed, German camouflage uniforms created the possibility of confusion so U.S. camouflage uniforms were rarely used.

Never saw GIs wearing Camos in my years in ETO.

Sgtleo

thats just what i needed sgtleo, thanks for the info. gonna put that into my project and that should do it for the camouflage uniforms.

One bit of trivia....the first camoflaged item of clothing issued to regular infantry was the Italian camo poncho that was issued early in the 1930's.

Israel also still goes without camouflage today to avoid confusion with enemies who are likely to wear all sorts of camo but not OD Green. It's not always the point of a uniform to blend in, but saving lives from friendly fire too.

Camo Question

I was at Ft. Lewis recently when I noticed something. All Army personel I saw in uniform, except medical types, were wearing the tan camo uniform. No dress uniforms to be seen. Why? I saw a few soldiers wearing jungle camo but it turned out they were Air Force. Probably from nearby McCord AFB.
The sueade combat boots don't require shining though... But where are the class a uniforms? They looked sharp!

The army never wears its uniform, just cammies all the time. Doesn't make any sense but that's the way they do it.

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Originally posted by Thrust_0311:
The army never wears its uniform, just cammies all the time. Doesn't make any sense but that's the way they do it.

Yeah, why wear battle dress around a base in the US? Shouldn't battle dress be reserved for battle?

If so then what are you going to wear on fatigues and working parties?
For years uncounted the U S Navy wore dungarees, in battle and not. Coveralls for the really dirty jobs.

I think we wear cammies too much. We should wear a uniform at least once a week just to be used to it and to take pride in it. The army wears their cammies to school, the mall, the airport, and I've even seen them wearing them at funerals! Now that's just disrespectful. You wouldn't go into a church wearing work clothes and paint covered boots, so why wear cammies in public when you have a nice, martial looking uniform somewhere?

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Originally posted by JPope:
If so then what are you going to wear on fatigues and working parties?
For years uncounted the U S Navy wore dungarees, in battle and not. Coveralls for the really dirty jobs.

Agreed. Dungarees are for work. But dungarees are not cammies.

f course, maybe camouflage while working might be useful if you're trying to conceal yourself from the OD.

You're right they're not cammies but, you made the reference as why wear battle dress when not in battle.....I answered by stating that other services did not and do not go along with that line. Fatigues are fatigues, heavy hard sometimes dirty labor and whether you wear dungarees or cammies, it still gets done. I worked with the Marines when they got their first generation of cammies in the 70s. Yes, they refueled airplanes, launched them, did maintenance and went into battle in their "Cammies."
It may be a slightly "Apples and Oranges type of comparsion. but then again maybe not.
Oh, the Navy has gone to their version of cammies.
Also, if you are trying to conceal yourself it can be done in dungarees, if you have the right skills. But in the states I think its just to maybe get out of some extra work?

Let me jump in here. I had a pair of cammo coverall's that were Isseued to a man in the 161st field artillary,35th. I.D. during WWII. They were reversable. Green mottled on one side,Tan & brown on the other,I also had the helmet cover. The gentleman stated that they were not allowed to wear them. I asked him ,WHY. He said the army never stated why, just don't wear them. When he gave them to me they were in almost unused condition. This was in 1956. He also gave me a set of German airborn cammo. Pant's, smock & helmet cover. I wore them hunting . I wore them out & threw them away. What does a 14 year old kid know?