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I'm currently planning to enlist in the Army sometime in the autumn. I already created a separate thread about my "dilemna" here: Signal Corps or Infantry?

However, the purpose of this thread is about your personal thoughts about the Signal Corps' role in the Army. Unfortunately, there seems to be a viewpoint held by a large minority which believes if you aren't in a specific combat MOS, you are less of a Soldier. Reasons being, you don't primarly use a firearm, you aren't on the front line, and your role is more "behind the desk" than in the mud, so to speak. Not to mention according to these people, there is no bond whatsoever between Signal Corp personal since they never were tested in battle.

I do not share this view, I think it's a load of **** but, I'm curious what your response would be and if you guys ever encountered this type of flawed thinking from civilians and/or fellow Soldiers? I pray that I have the honor in serving amongst your ranks in the near future.



PS: If anyone is, or knows someone who is a 25V, I would greatly appreciate your insight in the typical duties and daily routine of that MOS.
 
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Ok not a 25V, but a 25S. As a former infantry grunt I can tell you first hand the bond the squad has for each other in combat arms. Its second to none. That said the signal corps espicially the satcom field is very small. Were all 11 series soldiers go to benning can attest to the fun thats Sand Hill all signal soldiers can attest to the BS of TRADOC command at Gordon. As far as the small unit level bond goes a 93 van is run by a small group of soldiers. That truck is home it gets everyone from point a to b, and it the equipment inside is the job. The bond is there as everyone must work to keep it working and want tough I will tell you having 5 faults come on right as your shift ends sucks. Lots of monster to stay awake.
 
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Ok not a 25V, but a 25S. As a former infantry grunt I can tell you first hand the bond the squad has for each other in combat arms. Its second to none. That said the signal corps espicially the satcom field is very small. Were all 11 series soldiers go to benning can attest to the fun thats Sand Hill all signal soldiers can attest to the BS of TRADOC command at Gordon. As far as the small unit level bond goes a 93 van is run by a small group of soldiers. That truck is home it gets everyone from point a to b, and it the equipment inside is the job. The bond is there as everyone must work to keep it working and want tough I will tell you having 5 faults come on right as your shift ends sucks. Lots of monster to stay awake.


Appreciate your insight, thanks for the response. Smile

Come on guys, don't be shy, I know you have your own thoughts to add. You don't need to be 25V, that was just an additional note not directly related to the main topic.
 
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I am just a lowly spouse proud of her husband for anything he does Big Grin (he's a 25b), but my opinion as unbiased as possible is this ... wouldn't infantry be a little S.O.L. in the field without accurate signals/radio comm./intelligence/etc.?
 
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Signal tell grunts it's safe to enter! Always remember that. The hard part is being able to actualize what was learned in andf or the military and civilian world after Signal School.
With an AIDS like injection which Dr. Shyh-Ching
Lo was able to be gotten orders, and which has been classified as Top Secret, how to you countermand that? I have found that a book readily found in public libraries may have the answer to many GIs who find themselves with such ordered injections, "How To Fight Cancer & Win." The VA will just turn you into a money maker, for the doctor machine, whereas, I want to save lives!
 
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Signal tell grunts it's safe to enter! Always remember that. The hard part is being able to actualize what was learned in andf or the military and civilian world after Signal School.
With an AIDS like injection which Dr. Shyh-Ching
Lo was able to be gotten orders, and which has been classified as Top Secret, how to you countermand that? I have found that a book readily found in public libraries may have the answer to many GIs who find themselves with such ordered injections, "How To Fight Cancer & Win." The VA will just turn you into a money maker, for the doctor machine, whereas, I want to save lives!


WTF
 
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All the military jobs are important ,the infintry is a very important part of the Army .But those units are backed up by many others ,which support in many ways. I suppose there is a lot of comradery in the infintry units. I was in the signal corps in Nam and there we supported the feild units with vital communication.While in Germany for a short stint I was put in a feild Arty unit I was the rto for a rocket launcher battery . I did not care much for the Arty job but it was an experince and it was very important military job. I guess what I am trying to say is all the military jobs are important so figure out what mos you would like to do.
 
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Signal tell grunts it's safe to enter! Always remember that. The hard part is being able to actualize what was learned in andf or the military and civilian world after Signal School.
With an AIDS like injection which Dr. Shyh-Ching
Lo was able to be gotten orders, and which has been classified as Top Secret, how to you countermand that? I have found that a book readily found in public libraries may have the answer to many GIs who find themselves with such ordered injections, "How To Fight Cancer & Win." The VA will just turn you into a money maker, for the doctor machine, whereas, I want to save lives!

So what you're saying is it's confusing and makes absolutely no sense.
 
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Milspouse here, but I feel I can say this. My DH will be 25S. Frontlines or not, everyone's mos is important. Otherwise there would only be one mos! Frontlines or not. They do call it signal "support" for a reason. Without accurate communication, everyone in the infantry would be on their own. So thank god for technology!! Just my take on it, for whatever it's worth Wink
 
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every single person in the military is just as important as every single other person, from signal corps, to infantry, to QM. all MOSes are reliant upon another MOS. there is no 100% fully self-sufficient MOS, so no matter what you do, you are doing something important and you are making sure the battle continues!

i remember reading a statistic somewhere that said 1 out of every 10 soldiers are infantrymen.
 
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That brings up a saying a battalion commander at Gordon told us when I was there in '88. If your not tactical, your not chit! I was a 36L tactical switch AN/TTC-39A(v)1.

Being asignal soldier doesn't take you out of harms way. During DS/DS, the TacSat guys in the 85B van and thier 20' dish setup about 40 feet from our 39A. Every night, the MPs captured Iraqi SF right outside of our parimeter. Thier mission was to take the como out.

With that said, my team was a close knit team that watched each others back. If haji would have come over the wall, I know we could take care of our own.

As others have said, every MOS has a role in the mission.
 
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Originally posted by PaladinD:
I'm currently planning to enlist in the Army sometime in the autumn. I already created a separate thread about my "dilemna" here: Signal Corps or Infantry?

However, the purpose of this thread is about your personal thoughts about the Signal Corps' role in the Army. Unfortunately, there seems to be a viewpoint held by a large minority which believes if you aren't in a specific combat MOS, you are less of a Soldier. Reasons being, you don't primarly use a firearm, you aren't on the front line, and your role is more "behind the desk" than in the mud, so to speak. Not to mention according to these people, there is no bond whatsoever between Signal Corp personal since they never were tested in battle.

I do not share this view, I think it's a load of **** but, I'm curious what your response would be and if you guys ever encountered this type of flawed thinking from civilians and/or fellow Soldiers? I pray that I have the honor in serving amongst your ranks in the near future.



PS: If anyone is, or knows someone who is a 25V, I would greatly appreciate your insight in the typical duties and daily routine of that MOS.


The thing about the Army is its always changing. When I first went in there was an MOS 05B (mine) which would have given you the grunt experience, while serving in signal. It was important enough that SF still has the 05B you know us now days as 18E's.
If you do not like your first MOS you can change it later. Bottom line you are not stuck.

Good luck with which ever MOS you decide.
 
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