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Just wondering what AIT willbe like for PS just came back in and already went to WLC and my unit wants me to be there IT person I have a 4 yr degree in Management Information Systems I attained in 2002. Please advise.
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you have a degree and don't know the difference between there, and their? I think the word is obtained not attained.
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every post i've seen you make so far has been sarcastic and unhelpful, nobody likes an internet smart guy |
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Thats because a degree in MIS will not be helpful other than being able to read the manuals which are written at an eighth grade comprehension level. Maybe you should read his profile before you make a snap judgement. He's already what you aspire to be. |
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I have to agree with godschild1987 ... First off I think you made the mistake of assuming godschild1987 was the initial poster, which was Brown07. Second of all, how does attacking someone after their first post add to or help any discussion. I agree that every post I've seen Teknowil post has been correcting someone or attacking them. Not very helpful if the purpose of this discussion board is to enlist new recruits or re-enlist prior service. Instead of attacking someones choice in degrees, something I'm sure he's worked hard for, or attacking a grammar mistake or two, answer their question or sit it out. I mean come on, you act like your **** doesn't stink. I myself have already spent my time in and promoted to an NCO rank as a 31S. I left for several years and also am wondering what 25B (74B) AIT will be like for a prior service NCO, as I will be rejoining soon. But seeing posters like that reminds me of one of the reasons I left the military in the first place, it was full of now-it-alls and their respective kiss-asses. Now I don't know Teknowil, or you, networkpro, but one thing I do know is the signal corp is real small (and I mean REAL small) and I hope that if I come across you two, you're nothing like I've seen in your posts. |
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It is really small and getting smaller now that signal battallions have been and are still are getting wacked.
What you fail to realize is that the military takes civilian programs and equipment and employs them in a manner thats inconsistant with standard civilian business practices. The fuctional blocks are the same, but all similarities end there. IT equipment is treated like any other military gear: its one of several different approved configurations, its used in only approved ways, and any deviation can be a UCMJ offense. The challenge as an NCO reclassifying into a new MOS is to learn all the equipment, terminology, proceedures, and propery employment of it all as you will have to enforce those and local standards with your subordinates. Some of them will be blank slates, some will think they are wizzkids, and some will actually be wizzkids. A degree IT related or otherwise buys you nothing being enlisted. If you want it to count for more than just promotion points, go to WOCS or OCS. There are plenty of very smart soldiers who never get a degree, but if you find one encourage them to get one. If you come across me, it would be at the PX or Commissary as I'm retired, so I guess I've "done my time" in your venacular. |
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I agree with your assesment of an MOS change; however, you have to remember one thing.. the military has a great history of breaking one down and building them from scratch.
And as far as procedure and configuration goes, I had the luck of working a strategic assignment in the 1ST Satellite Control BN during my term and we became very familiar with the protocol and configurations of the network systems between the NIPRNET and SIPRNET amonst other systems. While its not the full gambit of what a 25B might entail, it is at least better than moving from a civilian network analyst with no previous experience back into the military lifestyle. And don't get me wrong. I fully appreciate your service for 20+ years along with Teknowil's continuing service, but that doesn't change what my initial argument was against his first reply post and why I agreed with godschild1987. I'll tell you though, you'd be suprised the kind of "small world" experiences I've had at PXs, Commisaries and barber shops. As much as going to Colorado Springs for a Soldier of the Year board, participating in an Army Ball, and finding out a soldier in the HHC for the BN is someone I went to high school with. |
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Lol, I know thats true from personal experience.
I had a running "funny meeting you here" with a guy I went to Basic and AIT with.. Three after we graduated we ran into each other tracing the same cable run from different directions in the JSA in Korea, next time it was 8 years later in the middle of the woods at Ft Pickett VA. With all the hoohaa DOIM is putting out these days, its not a job that I'd like to have to do. |
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Basic Training |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by networkpro:
If you come across me, it would be at the PX or Commissary as I'm retired...[QUOTE] Thank God... |
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Hugs and kisses back at ya sweetie.  |
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Basic Training |
ok smart guy i'm pretty sure no army or college manuals are written at an "8th grade level", quit talkin like a little kid, and i'm sure "ANY" degree will be helpful in the army whether it's for promotion points or simply credits towards OCS, so please do everyone a favor and quit bein so damn arrogant.........it makes me sad that you are the type of person that I will be working with..... when someone asks for help or input, you dont try to belittle them and make them feel dumb, YOU HELP THEM, you'd think thats what fellow soldiers would do on an ARMY DISCUSSION BOARD |
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There are not "credits towards OCS" you either have the 90 Semester hours creditable towards a BA AND qualifying SAT/ACT scores or a degree from an accreditied college. All of this is located in AR 350-1.
As to the level at which the manuals are written I direct your attention to several studies conduncted by the DoD : "Requirements and Criteria for Improving Reading Comprehension of Technical Manuals" by Post,Theodore J. ; Price,Harold E. and "Integrated Logistics Support Handbook" by James V. Jones. A short quote the last reference Chapter 10 paragraph 32: The readability of TMs is extremely important if the manuals are to be used. Government contracts for technical manuals commonly specify the reading grade level for TMs being prepared. Most TMs are prepared for a target reader with a seventh to nineth grade comprehension level. A standard method for evaluating the reading grade level of a technical manual is contained in MIL-M-38784B. DOD-STD 1685. Comprehensible Standards for Technical Manuals provides detailed information on how to keep manuals simple by using common words and terms in short, understandable sentances. I'm not here to coddle and hold hands , nor should you expect anyone to make you feel good just because you process oxygen. Be sad, be very sad. You fail to comprehend as an in-DUH-vidual that there are regulations that specify all standards in the Army. |
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process oxygen???.....our coversation will now be concluded due to the fact that your an idiot.........and you need to get smacked for thinkin you're cool because you memorized a manual....you're one of those people who doesn't get any respect in real life so you hop on the internet and try to sound smart to make yourself feel good.........the sun has set on your glory days old man, do you really have nothing better to do than log on to military.com and act like your still in, your RETIRED old man, go play golf, take your grandkids to six flags, fly a kite but please do everybody a favor and stop comin on here runnin your yapper because your mad you could never make it past e-5, give it a rest old school This message has been edited. Last edited by: godschild1987, |
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Ok so I made a broad assumption that some of the oxygen actually made it to your head which obviously has suffered greatly from the lack of it.
"your an idiot" You are semi-literate if you can't tell the difference between the contraction of "you are" (aka you're) and the second person personal pronoun "your" "and you need to get smacked for thinkin you're cool because you memorized a manual" Oh getting a bit defensive because I called your BS remark "ok smart guy i'm pretty sure no army or college manuals are written at an "8th grade level", " and refuted it with refrences. "you're one of those people who doesn't get any respect in real life so you hop on the internet and try to sound smart" Back to your Xbox sonny boy , I made E5 with less than 3 years TIS my first contract on Active Duty. I was National Guard for 19 years and chose my civilian career over the chump change a drill pays so I stayed close to home. I really crave validation by a semi-literate wannabe... please afirm my pitiful exitance! BTW you're still listed as a "Future Soldier" on AKO so you're still just hot air. |
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Basic Training |
LMAO.......... your wife must cheat on you |
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Stick to the wannabe forum, you havent even been to basic so your basis for judgement and expierence is as deep as the kiddie pool.
No not divorced, never have been |
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for god sake would you please shut your old retired e-5 ass up, you keep runnin your mouth and your dentures are gonna fall out, your opinion holds as much value as crackdealers opinion in a church.........ITS OVER, you "RETIRED" why in gods name are you still on this site giving advice and correcting people when you never even made staff seargant???....YOU'RE A NOBODY, I know soldiers that made E-5 by the time they were 22.......if you got something on your mind go write that **** in your diary because nobody cares about "retired" e-5's........for **** sake quit responding to me, i'm 21 years old you're 40 something, how long are you really gonna go back and forth with me??? how immature are you at 40-something??? like i said.....considering how annoying and pathetic you are, your wife must cheat on you |
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And children will be children, some grow up, some never do. I hope the Army can make something useful out of the mess that you are. I've seen hundreds of your type wash out.
You're not even a soldier, have no MOS, only thing you have is a contractual obligation for 8 years of service and thats only if you're not discharged prior to graduating AIT. I hope you do at least that. You'll develop a love affair with the sound of your Drills' voice in Basic Training. |
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LMAO cuz you're a joke to me
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Take a look at your profile pic, who else has a skidmark on thier chin ? Didn't they teach you how to put on underwear ?
They'll teach you a trade if you can comprehend enough of it. |
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