I would just like to say good luck to all of yall who decide to do that. And have fun at Lackland for the rest of your life. lol. jk, it'll only feel like forever. The SERE, PJ, CCT, EOD, and Tac P all have their indoc in the 342nd TRS. Its a cool squadron, and the guys there are pretty nice. It sucks if your female though. From what I hear, they give you a lot of ****. Just don't become one of the many in the SOT army. (Students out of training) So many of the guys with a lot of potential get hurt or fail out. If you're going to do it, you've got some real guts and I respect the hell out of you. If you got any questions about the tech school, feel free to ask. I was in the aircrew squadron across the way from them for 7 months and I've got a lot of friends in all the groups over there. If I don't know the answer, I can sure as hell find someone who does. Trust me though, the training might be hard, but the 342nd has its perks. lol. lucky jerks.
hmmm, what might those perks be?
Hmm... lets see...
One. They can get away with just about anything and they almost never get in trouble with it. Drinking, smoking, the works.
Two. They get all the girls they want. The 344th (my old squadron) was like the one quick stop to get any girl they wanted. They used to sneek them in all the time. Hell, half of the time it wasn't even sneaking, they just brought them in through CQ and no one said ****.
Three. They get a bad *** reputation.
Four. They''re MTL's are cool as hell. The one night I remember, a bunch of us were all up behind the BDU club having a smoke and their one MTL came up and was smoking and drinking with their head student leader. He was joking around with us and everything, he never said a thing about us smoking on base.
Five. They get to work out all day. Thats a huge part of their training, just going to the gym and working out.
And for the record, I hope none of you have to go through SERE in the winter. I'm there now and its cold as hell. We're having one of the biggest snow storms in the history of Fairchild right now. I'm going to be out in the feild in about 6 ft of snow on Sunday. I just spent all morning as a detail airman, shoveling snow over and over again. lol
I am most likely going in as a ground linguist but I was wondering if you can at least go through SERE school later on?
The only thing that apparently has changed might be the squadron. In my day it was the WAF permanent party and WAF casual squadrons whatever the squadron designation was I can’t remember. Actually however since the PJ indoc selection barracks was in the middle of the WAF squadron during 1973 it seemed to me it was the girls doing the shopping for any PJ student they wanted as they would come to our barracks to get us and not the otherway around.
haha... yeah I guess things have changed. Did you guys ever hear about Soffes? They have this joke over there (and a cadence) about how if a girl sleeps with the same guy three times, she gets a pair of his soffes (the short shorts they wear during their training.) Its kinda funny when girls walk around in them bc they always get this shocked reation. I have a pair of them from when I was dating a guy in Combat Control, though now I kinda of regret it. Whenever I'd walk around in them, girls (and guys) would always come up to me and ask me if I bought them or earned them. In some weird way, they're kind of a status symbol with the females and thats one of the reasons I only wore them to bed. Its like, if you have a pair that you earned it means your great in bed and good enough to get with one of them 3 times. Whats really bad is when you see girls walk around with blue ones from the PJ's and black ones from CCT. (For the record, I got threw them out when I got married. My husband was from my squadron and knew what they represented. He really didn't like thinking about it. lol)
um... I don't think so. Most of the people here at CCT, PJ's, SERE specialists, Aircrew, and officers. Its not something they'll send you through just bc you want to.
It was UDT shorts in my day and there was no selection indoc for CCT, SERE or combat weather back then either and TACP didn't exist as an AFSC.
I'm not 100% certain but I know that some intel slots do get a chance to go. I'm going this summer as a 1N0.
Nice! I don't particularly want to be a SERE trainer but I would love to learn the survival skills that they offer while staying in the intel field.
Please don't quote me though for a 1N3... I'm a 1N0 and have a totally different job then yours. I'm going to survival school so I can be a part of the EPA training aswell as helping with CSAR missions by knowledge of how pilots will evade and where to point the Guardian Angels to find him/her. (I'm in a rescue squadron)
This training experience isn't going to help you give the CSAR crews and the PJ teams the timely information needed and desired to accomplish the mission.
Yall should just be prepared when you get here. Don't take it lightly, its training that you might need someday,a nd its not ment ot be fun. We just had a team pulled in early bc of the weather. Thats the first time its happened in 16 years, apparently. Its cold and hard and ment to test you. But if you listen and do what your told, you'll be fine. I go into the feild this week and while I cant say I'm looking forward to freezing me butt off, I'm excited to see how well I do. I think the hardest part is seeing my husband from a distance, but not being able to talk to him to spend time with him, due to the hours we're in class. That and he's on a team with people he knows and likes. I don't know anyone on my team, and they're kind of catty. But whatever, we're still working togeather well. lol.
No johca? Granted I'm going to be one of the first in awhile from my unit to get the training so its not really been tested by us but it won't help me when a 15 line drops be able to look at a chart and have some idea on where they possibly could be evading too? I know that they are the experts at it and I am in no way saying I'll be able to be a big input in the job they're the experts in. Just thought that the training will help me with the SA needed for planning the mission. And if not, well then atleast I'll get this training out of the way when I'm 22 and still a little gung-ho and not in a few years when I hopefully have a HH-60 (or the new CSAR-X if that contract ever goes through) pilot slot.
The best I can guess from your question is you are 100% correct SERE training will not give you any additional clues. If you got to be looking at maps guessing the EPA, you are not gathering the information and disseminating the information needed.
Intel doesn’t plan the missions, intel supports mission planning by providing information.
If this being a mission crewmember comes to happen then your SERE training will become useful.
My response was your concept and understanding of EPAs is lacking. EPA planning and preparation is shared jointly, but it is (for the PJ team, the team leader’s responsibility) and for aircrew (the pilot/mission commander’s responsibility) to determine what the EPAs are for the mission before they depart and give this to intel before the execute and employ tactically to do the mission.
I’m aware the 1NO duties "may" include “Assist SERE (Survival Evasion Resistance and Escape) and Life Support personnel in training evasion and recovery and code of conduct, when necessary."
Life support is now called Aircrew Flight Equipment. The Aircrew Flight equipment duties include “Provides or assists in training aircrew techniques such as evasion procedures, emergency egress, post ejection/bailout descent procedures, combat survival procedures, environmental hazards, and other survival actions.”
This differs considerably from:
BTW, I noticed your profile shows award of the Combat Readiness Medal (CRM). Something must have changed since I retired as performing Intelligence duties didn’t provide eligibility for this recognition during my former active duty days. Has the following eligibility standard changed?
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Great job to have...I hung out with a few SERE guys when I was at Fairchild. Lots of $$ going into the school, and a very important, yet not well known, job. They get to do some awesome stuff, and go some great places.
I went through Arctic survival way back when. Good school, more emergency oriented than combat, but good nonetheless.
Still dont know about taking an A1C and making him an Instructor though...
Point taken Johca. I am fully aware that the role of the MC has final authority on EPA planning and which EPA will be implemented during a mission. My comment was never intended to say I would take over and become the ruling authority on the EPA if that is what you took my comments to be. And I can only hope at this point to get a pilot slot when one comes available, but only time will tell there sir.
And about the awards, my account was hacked a few weeks back. It also showed me as a lt. general and said that I ran the deep sea divers of the Air Force. At the time I didn't really look at what medals/awards were posted for me and I'll change it now. Would never want to impose something that I have not earned, changing it now as we speak.
Changed that and several others, sorry if anyone was offended, as I said before my account was hacked and I never noticed that change.
SEREBubba I was wondering about the day to day routine at Indoc training and what's expected... I was curious about the Ruck march I've heard it was 65lbs on the gosere website but then I heard it was 90lbs... I just want an Idea of what to expect
You will be required to meet a time standard of 4 miles in an hour with 65lbs. Thats a 15minute mile pace. The weight will increase over time, however you should be evaluated on the original 65lbs when you start team. Expect cals(push/sit ups; grass drills; flutter kicks; lunges etc.) and a daily run. Some days will consist of short runs with long rucks or vice versa. You will see several combinations of exercises that will physically take you to your limits without allowing your body to heal. If you can take the abuse you will begin team and then receive an introduction to SERE where you will be in a 17 day long self motivated interview. If you don't quit and you can meet the standards, you will be considered as a possible candidate for further training based on the cadre's discretion.
For Survival School students, do you need a scrubbed set of BDU's or are you allowed ones with MAJCOM/Unit patches?
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