What are the possibilities of being recruited to IV without previous LE? I spent 5 years in the Coast Guard (AET) and am nearly finished with a degree in intelligence. Any room for negotiation?

Don't they require new recruits to go to FLETC to get training anyway?

Redphish, are you talking about coming in as a reserve IV? If so, you'll need prior police academy certification and at least the last 3 yrs. as a sworn civilian LE cop, Sheriff, Trooper, Agent, etc.
If you're talking about active duty, you need to be an E-6 and submit a package after the solicitaion comes out in the spring. Yes,the active duty agents go to FLETC, but without some AD LE background the competition for selection can be a tough uphill climb.

I was just curious because AFOSI doesn't require previous experience so I'm not sure why CG does.


Thanks for the reply though.

Also, the civilian Agents are screened in a similar fashon. It partly comes down to money and assests. When you get down to it, the are about 150 full time (CIV/MIL) and up to 155 reserve Agents in the entire CG. It costs a fair amount of time and money to recruit and train a new Agent (regardless who they work for). The CG just doesn't have the deep pockets that DOD does, nor do we have the sheer numbers of candidates to select from. Couple that with the fact that having some prior experience can give you an idea of a person's suitability for this line of work. I can't think of any police dept. that hires Detectives right off the street... they are promoted from within the ranks after gaining experience (and there are no books that can do that).

Why not put your intelligence degree to good use and go IS?

A friend of mine lateraled to reserve IS recently and when the Oct SWE results came out, was actually bumped up one grade, and will advance to that grade on 1 Jan.

It seems there are always more advancement opportunities with new ratings, and IS may fit you better.

The last IV we hired last spring is both an investigator with his agency and on the local FBI JTTF already. The one we just interviewed for an open position in our office is a detective with his agency and already in the CGR. Both are certified LEO's with more than three years on the job. That is mandatory for being an IV.

Good luck!

I am interested in going IV. What are the requirements for an E-6 active duty.

You can't.

IV is a Reserve only rating.

However, Active Duty CG enlisted members, once they attain the E-6 rank, (no matter what rating), can apply for CGIS.

You have to have at least 30 college semester hours to apply and follow the guidelines on the annual message.

First for you is to make E-6, then apply.

Good luck!

thank you, so as AD what happens when I apply? What do AD members do when they get accepted to CGIS,after FLETC and all?

Thank you, yes attempting to knock out E-6 here soon, plus I have until FY09 at my current unit.

This is what we do: Coast Guard Investigative Service

The message for the 09 transfere season should be out OOA 15 Feb.

I am heading off to NDIC this August for the MSSI program, graduating in late July/early August 09. Does the FLETC training start exactly in June? Technically I will be tour complete in 09, but will not graduate until after the FLETC training starts if that is the case.

Candi:

Your profile says you are an E-5. You have to be an E-6 to apply. If that is the case, try contacting the below POC's...

6. POCS: APPLICATION TRACKING - YN1 D. RHONE (202) 493-1246 OR
DERRICK.L.RHONE(AT)USCG.MIL; CGIS PROGRAM - PERS2 C. FIORENZA (202)
493-6613 OR CHRISTOPHER.M.FIORENZA(AT)USCG.MIL; INFO ON ENTERING
SPECIAL ASSIGNMENTS AND CGIS BOARD - PERS3 D. TURNER (202) 493-1291
OR DEBORAH.M.TURNER(AT)USCG.MIL.

Or contact S/A Pedro Gonzalez at FLETC. He is in the Global.

Good luck!

Does an enlisted person do the same job as the civilian agent?

Yes they do...exact same duties as they are both agents.

Thank you, and how does advancement work?

Active duty special agents advance in their primary ratings. Once they have two years as an Agent, they can apply for INV, the Warrant specialty for CGIS.

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Originally posted by JerryG:
Candi:

Your profile says you are an E-5. You have to be an E-6 to apply. If that is the case, try contacting the below POC's...

6. POCS: APPLICATION TRACKING - YN1 D. RHONE (202) 493-1246 OR
DERRICK.L.RHONE(AT)USCG.MIL; CGIS PROGRAM - PERS2 C. FIORENZA (202)
493-6613 OR CHRISTOPHER.M.FIORENZA(AT)USCG.MIL; INFO ON ENTERING
SPECIAL ASSIGNMENTS AND CGIS BOARD - PERS3 D. TURNER (202) 493-1291
OR DEBORAH.M.TURNER(AT)USCG.MIL.

Or contact S/A Pedro Gonzalez at FLETC. He is in the Global.

Good luck!

Thank you JerryG!
I haven't updated my profile in a while...I'm an E-6.

Just found out that the 3 year Intel payback tour you must complete after graduation from NDIC and a CGIS billet are not one in the same, therefore I must complete my payback tour before I can apply for CGIS.
Looks like I will have to wait a few years...