I was thinking about joining the Coast Guard and becoming an ET. What's the highest level security clearance I can get at District 13? What particular units or cutters should I try to get stationed at for a Top Secret clearance? I plan on using my security clearance from the Coast Guard to get a high paying technical civilian job that requires one. I was thinking about getting on one of the cutters like the USCGC Mellon or Healy to get my sea time in. Would these choices also help me in getting a TS security clearance? That would be sweet cause a lot of civilian companies pay top dollar if you have one. I was also thinking about going officer if I find the Coast Guard an enjoyable place to work. I already have a 4 year degree. Will going officer help me get a TS clearance? Also, what are the chances of getting stationed at a Loran in Alaska? I'd appreciate any input, thanks, JW
if you are just join for the four years so that you can get a TS then i would have to say for OS and NOT ET. ive been in for eight years and i only have a secret. if you go OS and get attached to a cutter and work in radio or combat you will need a TS. just my $.02 and good luck.
God, here we go again. The self righteous banter of those who are in the military, blah, blah, blah. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to join the military, so try not to act like one. Besides, why the hell would I join the Coast Guard to sell government secrets? What plethora of information do they have to offer anyone? Um, weather forecasts, how to use Windows XP, how to drive a boat, how to use weapons systems that are no doubt probably in Jane's Weapons Guide. If you really cared, go chastise Tom Clancy or your own government for dropping the ball on classified leaks. My knowledge of how to run a SAR or use a voltmeter is not going to help some dumbass terrorist or drunk Russian. Save your paranoid delusions for some right wing nut who conjures them up on a daily basis. Lets just say the Coast Guard's security clearances (i.e. access to classified information) are akin to a local community college ID card, while the Air Force or CIA's security clearances are akin to a Harvard ID card. Are you guy's following my analogy? The only reason I want to get my security clearance through the Coast Guard is that I believe it's a kick *** branch of the military. Geez, there are plenty of people that join the military to learn a trade and get a security clearance. There are many jobs out there that will hire those who have a valid clearance, and for a good price. Is that not enough incentive to want to join a rating in Coast Guard that offers a clearance. At least I'm honest and not joining under false pretenses. And I know that some off you who , after they retire or otherwise, would like to use their clearances to make some good money in the civilian world. So don't act self righteous and paranoid. At the end of the day, what you do is just a job and everyone understands that. Every American, not including you, is doing their part to make this country a little better or a little shittier. Just don't act like the military isn't impervious to making it shittier. In regards to everyone's sour judgment of my intentions, I leave you with a little advice: clean the sand out of your ****** before a bad yeast infection sets in.
Highly doubt a security clearance earned in the service is going to help you on the outside if a security clearance is needed at that new job. Because most places are going to run a new security clearance on you anyway. Other then the fact you have this supposedly cool bragging point you had a TS clearance, it isnt going to make a difference I bet.
BTW, here is some advice to you! Dont act like you are smarter then everyone here. obviously if you were, you wouldnt be asking us the question. As for your language about cleaning the sand out of the.... drop the attitude.. you are bad mouthing the people in the service you want to join. You bad mouth one, you are bad mouthing the rest of us. Good luck or whatever...
Ya see jerry baby, the problem with your little hissy fit is it shows that not only are you immature but you have absolutely no sense of humor nor any humility whatsoever, important stuff to make it through Boot Camp and especially to endure life aboard a Cutter. If by chance you make it through Boot Camp, assuming the Coast Guard let you join, you will find your self surrounded by people just like the ones that post on this board that you just insulted. They will quickly expose you for an arrogant little punk and they will make your life miserable. I only hope I get to see it.
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Originally posted by jerrywillis: God, here we go again. The self righteous banter of those who are in the military, blah, blah, blah. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to join the military, so try not to act like one. Besides, why the hell would I join the Coast Guard to sell government secrets? What plethora of information do they have to offer anyone? Um, weather forecasts, how to use Windows XP, how to drive a boat, how to use weapons systems that are no doubt probably in Jane's Weapons Guide. If you really cared, go chastise Tom Clancy or your own government for dropping the ball on classified leaks. My knowledge of how to run a SAR or use a voltmeter is not going to help some dumbass terrorist or drunk Russian. Save your paranoid delusions for some right wing nut who conjures them up on a daily basis. Lets just say the Coast Guard's security clearances (i.e. access to classified information) are akin to a local community college ID card, while the Air Force or CIA's security clearances are akin to a Harvard ID card. Are you guy's following my analogy? The only reason I want to get my security clearance through the Coast Guard is that I believe it's a kick *** branch of the military. Geez, there are plenty of people that join the military to learn a trade and get a security clearance. There are many jobs out there that will hire those who have a valid clearance, and for a good price. Is that not enough incentive to want to join a rating in Coast Guard that offers a clearance. At least I'm honest and not joining under false pretenses. And I know that some off you who , after they retire or otherwise, would like to use their clearances to make some good money in the civilian world. So don't act self righteous and paranoid. At the end of the day, what you do is just a job and everyone understands that. Every American, not including you, is doing their part to make this country a little better or a little shittier. Just don't act like the military isn't impervious to making it shittier. In regards to everyone's sour judgment of my intentions, I leave you with a little advice: clean the sand out of your ****** before a bad yeast infection sets in.
I have nothing but the utmost respect for those who are in the military. The only caveat being those military personnel who have a holier than thou attitude towards civilians. I understand that I am not yet or may not ever be of your ilk. But do not treat my inquiries as if I have no honor, respect, or devotion to duty.
I am also not one whom is all knowing. I am from Arizona. It's a state that picks up knowledge as its kicked its way. Go Wildcats! I'm actually not smarter than anyone here. I'm only attempting to be smarter than anyone here. But here's my reasoning in reference to your quip about "acting like I'm smarter then everyone": its a catch-22. If I sound stupid then I'll be berated for being a dumb *** and if I sound smart I'll be berated for being a smart ***. Which road would you have me choose: being a dumb *** or a smart ***?
If it really is the case that a security clearance cannot guarantee a high paying civilian job then I've been poorly informed. In that case I'll join the Coast Guard as a Yeoman. I'm all for helping and representing those who are under appreciated. And I guess , bless my heart, I would be helping the same people on these forums who have berated me. Talk about devotion to duty.
Actually a current clearance is fairly valuable depending upon what job you seek. Especially if they do business with the Government/Military. The majority of good paying jobs at companies such as Northrup/Grumann, Lockheed etc.. require most of the personnel they hire to have at a minimum of a secret or higher. Without getting into the specifics, your current clearance from the Coast Guard is valuable to a lot more companies than you'd think.
Originally posted by cuttercoasty: Highly doubt a security clearance earned in the service is going to help you on the outside if a security clearance is needed at that new job. Because most places are going to run a new security clearance on you anyway. Other then the fact you have this supposedly cool bragging point you had a TS clearance, it isnt going to make a difference I bet.
BTW, here is some advice to you! Dont act like you are smarter then everyone here. obviously if you were, you wouldnt be asking us the question. As for your language about cleaning the sand out of the.... drop the attitude.. you are bad mouthing the people in the service you want to join. You bad mouth one, you are bad mouthing the rest of us. Good luck or whatever...
Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, you didn't read a word I wrote. Nobody here has a holier than thou attitude. All we were doing was havin' a little fun with ya and you got your panties all in a bunch. You say you have nothing but the utmost respect and then commence to denigrating in the very next sentence. All I can say is you better learn to laugh at yourself once in awhile or you'll never make it, and that's not just in the Coast Guard.
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Originally posted by jerrywillis: I have nothing but the utmost respect for those who are in the military. The only caveat being those military personnel who have a holier than thou attitude towards civilians. I understand that I am not yet or may not ever be of your ilk. But do not treat my inquiries as if I have no honor, respect, or devotion to duty.
I am also not one whom is all knowing. I am from Arizona. It's a state that picks up knowledge as its kicked its way. Go Wildcats! I'm actually not smarter than anyone here. I'm only attempting to be smarter than anyone here. But here's my reasoning in reference to your quip about "acting like I'm smarter then everyone": its a catch-22. If I sound stupid then I'll be berated for being a dumb *** and if I sound smart I'll be berated for being a smart ***. Which road would you have me choose: being a dumb *** or a smart ***?
If it really is the case that a security clearance cannot guarantee a high paying civilian job then I've been poorly informed. In that case I'll join the Coast Guard as a Yeoman. I'm all for helping and representing those who are under appreciated. And I guess , bless my heart, I would be helping the same people on these forums who have berated me. Talk about devotion to duty.
Just an example of how one person with access can abuse that privledge for profit. You see, each piece of classified info has value to someone. Now, let's say that some guy named jerry willis is an OS and he has access to information of interest to individuals that are interested in avoiding the Coast Guard on the high seas while they smuggle illegals or perhaps drugs. So jerry willis provides these individuals with the Cutters schedules, Port Calls and maybe even their positions. Gee jerry, do you get it now? Dumbazz statements like this;
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Lets just say the Coast Guard's security clearances (i.e. access to classified information) are akin to a local community college ID card, while the Air Force or CIA's security clearances are akin to a Harvard ID card. Are you guy's following my analogy?
are a good reason not to grant a guy like you a clearance.
Wow kid... You've got a lot of growing up to do... My only hope is that you'll realize that life is not all about getting that "cool a$$ job" with the cool-guy security badge hanging on your shirt... You might try just asking questions about what our rating entails so you can make an informed decision about what job you want in the Coast Guard... Nothing in life is guaranteed and that certainly applies to "high paying technical civilian jobs that require clearances"... Basically what I'm saying is that you don't want to choose a rating solely based on what type of clearances you can get...
A) Because it doesn't matter so much what rate you choose as it depends on what billet you're filling within your rating...
B) You might not get that cool-guy job with the little badge and odds are, you won't be in a position financially after 4 years to get out of the CG... So that leaves you with re-enlisting in the CG...
C) And I'm not sure (you might try asking this on the CG recruiter's forum) if you can get a guaranteed 'A' School (which you sound like the type that wouldn't even think about being a non-rate) and a guaranteed District...
I'm not trying to sound like I'm chewing you out or anything like that... I'm really trying to inform you of what happens in the real-world CG... If you have anymore questions I'll do my best to answer them for you and if I don't know the answer I'll find out for you...
When I first started at looking at the various jobs the coast gaurd has, a security clearance was the last thing on my mind, and still is. You should take the advise of jgcoastie and the rest of the guys here, they've been through the hoops before, and are looking out for the best interest of the service and country.
Originally posted by jerrywillis: Lets just say the Coast Guard's security clearances (i.e. access to classified information) are akin to a local community college ID card, while the Air Force or CIA's security clearances are akin to a Harvard ID card. Are you guy's following my analogy?
So let's use your little analogy and apply it to your "high paying technical job". Is that high paying company going to hire a community college grad or a Harvard grad?
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What plethora of information do they have to offer anyone? Um, weather forecasts, how to use Windows XP, how to drive a boat, how to use weapons systems that are no doubt probably in Jane's Weapons Guide.
Hmmm, if you knew what plethora of information we knew then it wouldn't be classifed would it?
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to join the military, so try not to act like one.
I'm perplexingly apprehensive about informing you all that I must concur with Dr. Willis' perspicacous hypothesis in relation to the to the correlation between being reputed competent for military service and the erudition of reaction propolsion engineers, and those immensed in the cogitation of Quantum Physics in relation to celestial conveyance propulsion.
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You don't have to be a rocket scientist to join the military, so try not to act like one.
I'm perplexingly apprehensive about informing you all that I must concur with Dr. Lewis's perspicacous hypothesis in relation to the to the correlation between being reputed competent for military service and the erudition of reaction propolsion engineers, and those immensed in the cogitation of Quantum Physics in relation to celestial conveyance propulsion.
