Can you guys tell me about 270 schedules?

Is it normally 2 months in and 2 months out?
How often does that change? meaning can I count on getting there and leaving for 4 months? (That's how it works in the Navy sometimes)
What part of the world do 270's patrol?

Any info would be greatly appreciated

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Originally posted by babcockseven:
Can you guys tell me about 270 schedules?

Is it normally 2 months in and 2 months out?
How often does that change? meaning can I count on getting there and leaving for 4 months? (That's how it works in the Navy sometimes)
What part of the world do 270's patrol?

Any info would be greatly appreciated

Very suspicious!!! If you are really in the Navy you know what a dangerous question that is!

Sorry, Jeff I didn't mean to set off your alarm.

I don't think that I asked anything that is
"Very suspicious!!!" Maybe it was my choice of words?????

The truth of the matter is that I have been a Navy wife for 9 years. (but if you had researched my posts you would ALREADY KNOW WHY I am asking such questions.)
Most of the questions that I asked can be researched and answered online on coastie websites.

I was just looking for enough info to make an educated "guess" on numerous questions that military families face
...where to live
...when will we move
...Should I plan on my husband being out on a ship for 6 months straight after planning on him being out for 2 and in for 2
...etc
...etc

Service members and their FAMILIES (wives and children, mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, etc etc) sacrifice for the Freedom of this country.
This Military Family will continue to do so for at least another 10 years...God Willing!


With that said, I apologize for sounding "Very suspicious!!!" I do not want to put anyone in danger.

Regardless, there have been several posts recently that have raised some flags when it comes to OPSEC considerations. Patrol schedules and cutter endurance is something that may be useful to those who aim to harm us.

I can say Coasties typically see more shore time than their Navy counterparts. The CG doesn't have much military housing so you should expect to live on the economy, and you should expect to move every 3-4yrs.

Boats;
You are actually way off the mark there if you are insuating that CG Cutters spend more time at the pier than USN vessels. OPTEMPO and PERSTEMPO restrictions for USN Vessels are tigher than we have for our. That means, USN vessels will spend more time at the pier than our cutters. Not a lot, but it is more. The huge difference is that a JO scheduling major cutters can run right up against and over our 'guidelines' for OPTEMPO. Recent major changes on the USN side require much higher level approval than our rules do.

Roger that Master Chief!

I thought the USN spent more time at the piers so the Hooligans could hone their stealth skills and "shop" for parts/souveniers/etc. from their Squid counterparts...

--M

Babcocks...is it safe to assume by your profile you are asking about Portsmouth, VA and not Portsmouth, NH? There are 270's at each, that's why I ask.

I could tell you about places to live in NH but have no advice for you in VA.

I'll check back for your answer.

Don

Babcock the 270's do 60 days inport 60 days U/W. There schedules are usually pretty set in stone. Some cutters get special patrols which require them to be out longer but you should get that information well in advance from your husbands command. Your question was not suspicious at all so don't worry about that. For more housing information try Coastiechicks.net, allot of Coast Guard spouses share information their on Housing, schools etc. Good luck.

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Originally posted by babcockseven:
Sorry, Jeff I didn't mean to set off your alarm.

I don't think that I asked anything that is
"Very suspicious!!!" Maybe it was my choice of words?????

The truth of the matter is that I have been a Navy wife for 9 years. (but if you had researched my posts you would ALREADY KNOW WHY I am asking such questions.)
Most of the questions that I asked can be researched and answered online on coastie websites.

I was just looking for enough info to make an educated "guess" on numerous questions that military families face
...where to live
...when will we move
...Should I plan on my husband being out on a ship for 6 months straight after planning on him being out for 2 and in for 2
...etc
...etc

Service members and their FAMILIES (wives and children, mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, etc etc) sacrifice for the Freedom of this country.
This Military Family will continue to do so for at least another 10 years...God Willing!


With that said, I apologize for sounding "Very suspicious!!!" I do not want to put anyone in danger.

Babcock, firstly your profile states YOU are an E-6 in the navy, I suggest clicking the "Spouse" option in your profile for starters. Secondly I don't have the time or interest in reading your old posts to figure out who you are or what your intentions are. As others have stated here there have been a number of posts recently that have raised some suspicions, I was merely reiterating the point that loose lips sink ships, I felt the combination of the way your post was worded and the information provided in your profile(misrepresentation) was "very suspicious". I applaud you for being a supportive dependent who is concerened for the well being of her family however I don't appreciate the pissy and condecending attitude in your reply. Remember who's coming here for the advice! -Jeff

Lots of good points being made here. Babcock7 I think the best thing you can do to get more detailed information about 270's is have your husband contact his new unit. Again good luck with the new career choice

Thanks BULL.
We have some pipeline training to go through before we get to the cutter. I am sure that will give us time to get the info that we need.

Theres nothing wrong with knowing how long cutters go out for. There is no such thing as OPSEC. You can track most navy cruises from the internet. In fact my recruiter gave me a list of all the cutters and how long they went out for, and where they were homeported. I lost the list and have been trying to find it again if anyone knows where to download it?????

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Originally posted by xnavAT:
Theres nothing wrong with knowing how long cutters go out for. There is no such thing as OPSEC.

No such thing as OPSEC? Do you even know what OPSEC stands for? You are listed as an E3 in the CG, but you mention your recruiter so I am not sure exactly what your status is. I will tell you that there is such a thing as OPSEC and I recommend that if you are in the CG it is time for you to start doing some reading. The idea that there is no such thing as OPSEC is not conducive to your career choice as an ET.

Ship's schedules do fall under OPSEC, and carry a level of classification that this board is not secure enough for.

I believe he is ex Navy and waiting to go to Prior service boot camp. But he wants a duty station that he doesn't have to be gone for too long. His sweetie doesn't like that and I think he will get home sick. Hope he gets a big white one for starters.

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Hope he gets a big white one for starters.

Followed by a big red one?

Wow you guys are here too. IT was joke, there is no OPSEC! The whole time I was in the navy my wife tracked my cruises on a public website.... You could even pick up a thing at the grocery store where kids could color you're route and update it. OK there is an OPSEC but knowing how long a cutter goes out is pretty freakin easy to figure out. You can either ask someone in a forum and they'll be cool and tell you, or you can just get on the cutter's website and probably find the info there
EXAMPLE... Everything you ever wanted to know about the Tahoma only a couple clicks away.
http://www.uscg.mil/lantarea/cutter/tahoma/Mission,%20H...y,%20and%20Facts.htm

xnavAT,
I don't know where you are getting your info, but if anyone is posting exact times and dates that a cutter is leaving and returning from homeport to "be cool" then they are breaking OPSEC and should be reprimanded. And the same goes for dependants. Any and all information posted on a website has to cleared for internet release, so what you are seeing is what you are allowed to see. You are right on one point, most anyone can find out the standard u/w time for a unit. But that is just it "the standard" public affairs type answer. If you have been Navy and been around long enough then you should know better than letting that kind of information being passed around in a normal conversation. And you should know your responsibilities for reporting the OPSEC comprimise.

I have seen some of your other posts about being away from the wife for too long and which rate to choose based on that. If you are looking to finish a career and retire without going to sea for more than a couple of weeks at a time over your entire career, you really are in the wrong place. The guys you met who did it, just got lucky, and luck is not really the right word. We are the Countries Oldest Seagoing Service. If it's real she'll still be there when you pull into homeport with a smile on her face.

babcockseven,
Bull444 is dead on, the new command is the best to ask for that kind of information. Commands in general like to keep the families well informed.

I was on the Bear. I don't think that the OP tempo is classified but the actual limitations of the ship is. You can't tell someone that the ship can only be out for X amount of days without pulling in for a mid patrol break or inport. But like it is was mentioned previously, it's not very hard to figure out how long a normal patrol for the 270's in Portsmouth are. All you have to do is watch the local news channels around Hampton Roads and that will tell you when a particular ship pulls out and then a couple months later when it pulls back in. So is there a such thing as OPSEC, absolutely! And a very important thing at that. But is it widely praticed...not always.

If the Coast Guard officially discusses/posts a ship's characteristics, endurance, or schedule that is one thing.

If civilian sources make really really good guesses about these topics, that is also one thing.

It is NOT a license for individual Coasties nor their family members to do so.

An example. Jane's Defense Weekly takes open source information and puts it into a focused form. They may have a public listing for an aircraft carrier, a submarine, and a WHEC. The listings may discuss armaments, speed, etc.

As a military member, I can NOT confirm or deny the accuracy of Jane's.

Let the Coast Guard publish information that it will publically. The best way for you to get schedule information about a cutter is via your spouse and his command.

Just because someone doesn't understand OPSEC, doesn't mean it does NOT exist.