Hello my fellow vets,
COuld anyone help me try to figure out how DFS will calculate my CRSC Payment. I was finally approved for 50% Combat Related retro back to 1/1/08. My VA disability is $2843 100%. My wiaved Military is $898. 15 years 3 months. (Chapter 31 PDRL)I am married with two children. have tried to use the formual to get an idea but I am not able to do calculations real well anylonger. My wife and I are trying to make out a budget with things as hard as they are with the economy right now. I hope all had a nice Thanksgiving. God Bless.
Dru Hannon, USN~(PM-KT-32 Deg)
your CSRC is 422.50 a month. Your Retro payment to 01/08 is $4,642
note: The Retro was calculated at 11 months, assuming that you will get your CRSC normal payment on Jan 1, 09. So, if you receive it in 3 days, that will be both your November CRSC payment AND 10 months back pay.
P/S Chapter 31?
I am not familiar with CRSC payments for anything but Chapter 61 Retirees. Typo? if not, please share.
Greetings and special blessings.
Freddy, can you please show how you figured this CRSC??
15 years, 3 months, would be 15.25 time 2.5 percent per year would be 38.13% of base pay, even if we take current total retired pay of $898.00, 38.13% of this would be $342.41, then you have to take half of this since CRSC is for 50%. Half would be $171.21. In this case the back CRSC would be $1,883.31 for 11 months.
Here is the rule direct from this Link:
Special Rules for Chapter 61 Disability Retirees: According to law, members retired for disability
under Chapter 61 of title 10 United States Code must have the CRSC entitlement reduced by the amount
their military disability retired pay exceeds the retired pay they would otherwise be entitled to for
retirement with at least 20 years of service. Disability retirees with less than 20 years of service must have
the CRSC entitlement reduced by the amount their military disability retired pay exceeds the amount
calculated as for a regular retirement (i.e. 2½ percent x years of service x pay base). Note: this may result
in a significant reduction or elimination of CRSC for members with few years of service.
Being married and having children has no affect on the amount of the CRSC as far as I know.
Freddy, please come back with your numbers. Thank you.
May God richly bless and keep you.
In His Service,
Grover it is not 38% of his retirement pay, it is reduced by the amount his retired pay exceed the retired pay with 20 years.
Chapter 61 of title 10 United States Code must have the CRSC entitlement reduced by the amount their military disability retired pay exceeds the retired pay they would otherwise be entitled to for retirement with at least 20 years of service.
Thank you. This helps. We have something to at least gude us by to help plan. (It was a typo. CHapter 61). Thank you Dave and to you Grover for what you both do for all the vets. I cannot tell you how nice it is to have an outlet to go to and vent and also obtain info and at the same time be at ease with trust. You both continue your service with pride. HOOYAH.
I apologize. Freddy my hat is off to you to. My three year old distracted me. All three of you are great supporters. Thanks.
Just to add to what DAVE_M said...
Grover, you can't just take that %, it is a formula, and it includes the service members retirement pay AT THE TIME he retired, NOT what you see on the RAS..The law was simple, indeed, then DOD complicated it with the formula.\
Btw,. I can tell you without looking at that website that the numbers are going to be off. Again, the RAS you see CANNOT be used to calculate CRSC, it is just part of the formula.
So....with all due respect to GROVER and as always, I always make a point to say that I hope to be wrong if the benefit goes to the veteran, but...as it stands now..the number I gave is correct.
P/S I just saw it, and now I know how to use the edit button..
Oh...the years of service...THat is also not quite right..and again, just part of the formula DFAS uses, so CRSC I used to believe myself YOS x 2.5% x etc..etc., in the end, I found with the help of DFAS, it's all arbitrary.
Freddy, I would still like to know how you came up with the $422.50 a month. I knew it was not his retired pay now, but I used that number as an example.
I am still fuzzy on this, so any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. I do need to see the numbers and the way you came up with the $422.50.
Dave M. I thought it was 2.5% times the number of years on active duty. How can his retired pay exceed the retired pay with 20 years when he only had 15 years and 3 months??
Freddy, what is the Formula that DOD came up with??
May God richly bless and keep each of you.
In His Service,
Grover it can not exceed the retired pay for 20 years. "Chapter 61 of title 10 United States Code must have the CRSC entitlement reduced by the amount their military disability retired pay exceeds the retired pay they would otherwise be entitled to for retirement with at least 20 years of service. "
Like Freddy says it is complex and we need information we do not have. I think the CRSC is reduced by the approx 5 years or 25% difference in time served versus full retirement pay. So for ??? and giggles let us say that retirement pay for 20 years is $1,000. I think he can not collect more than $750 based on this math. If the $898 is less than about 78% of full retirement at the time, then it would that. The SRSC for 50% is $728, so I think he will get that, but I could be out in left field.
Actually, you have just posted as close to the formula as you can get...better than I was able to explain it...GROVER, you subtract..the difference between actual YOS from the 20 and that is his penalty (bad choice of words, but I couldn't think of a better one) and you apply that difference from the math DAVE_M posted and you come up with...I forgot what I posted, but it was between 3 and 4 hundred? DAVE _M WAS PRETTY DOGGONE close, actually, pretty much of how it is calculated.
And yes, I got the calculator link from DOD/DFAS, but its one of those closed loop? web access sites? Don't know the technical name for it, Dave_M would know, So I can access it, put in the numbers and it gives me the $
The closest example (because I'm not an IT expert) is that DSN? telephone network that DOD has? where you have to have permission? I'm not even sure if they still use it, but I remember from when I was still in, anyway, yes, it's a password and authentication access.
I can do numbers on CRDP also using it. But I think (not sure) that all of you guys getting CRDP already know what you're getting, at least from the posts I have seen.
So, in the past we have multiplied YOS X 2.5 %, and that is not right. It's the 5 years he didn't finish X 2.5 and subtract that..and then there are other factors, but that would take too much time and space for this forum.
Hey my accountingdegree has to be worth something.
Yanno...and I have been trying to explain it on past post, and I know what I am thinking, but the formula was complex and then you come, and I look at it, look at it and then 1 more time and I'm thinking..Hey, that's it!!
Pretty good job of explaining what I was thinking DAVE_M.
I created a worksheet that will figure out your CRSC payment. It was exact to the dollar for me. I am willing to send it out to any Vet who needs it. You can contact me at << Mod Note - Email removed -Per TOS >>. Use subject line 'CRSC Worksheet Request'.
It is step be step and will be helpful. Let others know.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dave_M,
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I created a worksheet that will figure out your CRSC payment. It was exact to the dollar for me. I am willing to send it out to any Vet who needs it.
Use subject line 'CRSC Worksheet Request'.
Hope this helps.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dave_M,
This topic is over a year old (14 months). You seem to have no regard for Military.com rules.
Dave, the member's profile says W3 active duty.
Something doesn't jive.
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Sorry, just trying to get information to as many vets as possible. I see 8-10 soldiers going through a med board weekly asking about CRSC and I have just as many retired coming to me as well.
You can email to me or Bruce and I will make it available on a web site, where I also have CDRP worksheet.
Hey Chief! Good to see you getting involved! I myself greatly appreciate your input. You work in Alabama as a VSO? Think I'll see if I can push the wife to move down to the "Warmer" climate!
Hey once again "Welcome"
OK. Here are the links:
I converted the CRSC calc to a 2003 version from the 2007 version to make it easier for all suers.
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