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A Riddle Wrapped In A Mystery Inside An Enigma |
Scroll below USATODAY newspaper to read the article... USA Today 27Jun-07 Well I have to admit I am surprised. However, does anybody feel that the CIA has not revealed ENOUGH? We all knew these things were going on but nobody wanted to go on record. The really humorus thig was the DRUG TESTING... All that revelation and no mention of the 1953 incident in NYC hotel with the CIA doctor... Well I guess DCIA Helms burned-bag everything so I guess National Security Archive Executive Director Thomas Blanton, Senior Fellow and CIA expert John Prados, and Deputy Director Malcolm Byrne just don't have the CLEARANCE to pull that data... Any comments or discussion? |
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===========Yeah, the Crack in the Black Community. Executive Order 12333 removed the responsibility for the CIA to report to the Justice Department when working with drug criminals. cia.gov /library/ Report: CIA; Cocaine; Contras has the details in extended legalese. Will be glad to point to key sentences if asked. Clinton brought Tenet and intel to Senate Impeach day. Five GOP senators were shown daddy Bush's involvement and decided not to impeach. John Roberts of the Supremes was White House Council and didn't explain to Reagan the effect of the E.O.-----that it allowed the CIA to work with drug mafias in and out of the US. Has anyone noticed Roberts is a zombie? |
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Basic Training |
none of this garbage surprises me. with the exception of the drug experiments, this is why we have a cia. its not pretty or nice, but if they did not go around spying on people for no apparent reason, what would they be doing? think about that: highly trained clandestine cells of american agents with nothing but time on their hands. i would almost rather have the cia make stupid mistakes than sitting around looking at each other. at least they are out there doing something to make mistakes while doing it. for them to watch an american person is almost a given, it is when they interfere with the lives and freedoms of citizens that the problems start.
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Good point Greensandman. I never looked at it that way...
Shoe, Yeah John is supposedly very sick. I wish somebody would have spotted that before making him Supreme for life! Don't they do physical exams in those Senate confirms? (just joking) So how do you like this... The new guard on the 7th floor is now trying to lay blame on George Tenet for the failure to spot 9/11 and the failure to do anything about UBL... WTF!!! I guess Michael F. Scheuer - Chief, 1996 to 1999, of the Bin Laden Issue Station (aka "Alec Station"), the Osama bin Laden tracking unit at the Counter-terrorist Center was just fictitious??? Is this pay-back for his new book? The new DCIA says no. Yeah right... I'm glad George responded to them. Went something like "GET F/***ED YOU NECON A**HOLES!" or something like that. I may be paraphrasing a bit... -00Q- PS - Hey Shoe you still watching your 6 these days? Miss our loggerhea-laden convos. :-) |
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========Certainly we have learned by now to obey the commandment that one doesn't use a certain name in vain in an intellectual conversation. Good to see your hand again |
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Basic Training |
I haven't heard any thing about this on the "outside" of the us to confirm a public statement .
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Ask and ye shall receive... From the ROCK STAR'S* mouth to your ears "Before 9/11, no agency did more to attack al Qa’ida than the CIA." - *George J. Tenet ( NY Times 21-Aug'07)
Listen to his response on NPR 01May'07. Click here. Keep your head up George! Shoe - He may have done a lot of things he wasn't proud of... Is someone proud about giving old huey choppers to questionable Mexicans? Sorry - just being a smrt azz ;-) |
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Hiya' Lisa! Impressive USCG background! I see you were in my neck of the woods once? USCG Acad NLON CT? I knew this VNV USCG guy once... We we're rag chewing at work about stuff & things of that period and I inadvertently said something stupid about how no USCG ppl were on duty in-country at VN and certainly never did any intel work while there... Well when they were removing his foot outta' my butt I guess I got a new perspective on the USCG - Much respect!!! Hope we can rag chew a bit like I do with my very back-story opaque friend up there I affectionately call "Shoe"... Hey Shoe? Any more contact with our tall dark Jewish DEA friend from NYC? Do you listen to his radio show at all? |
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Nope, haven't listened to the talk dark Jew yet. Reception here in Mississipi probably isn't. Line of sight FM etc. Trying to remember the neat piece of poop he gave me.
The helicopters to Mexican dopers was under DCI BushI and Casey. |
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A Riddle Wrapped In A Mystery Inside An Enigma |
O I C said the blind man...
If you want to listen to him just click that link up there I posted called "radio show"... |
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Basic Training |
The CIA seems to act as a destabilizing force in outside countries. It is also roumored to be involved in black budget projects funded by selling drugs and other bad stuff. What I find most disturbing is the MK Ultra / Mind Control Experiments that started in the 1960's and may never have stopped for all we know.
See Further links at the UVC : THE CIA : 21 Topics : http://xsorbit27.com/users5/unifiedveteranscoalition/index.php/board,417.0 PROJECT MK ULTRA : 24 Topics : http://xsorbit27.com/users5/unifiedveteranscoalition/index.php/board,265.0 PROJECT SHAD : 4 Topics : http://xsorbit27.com/users5/unifiedveteranscoalition/index.php/board,264.0 PROJECT 112 : 6 Topics : http://xsorbit27.com/users5/unifiedveteranscoalition/index.php/board,435.0 OPERATION NORTHWOODS : 5 Topics : http://xsorbit27.com/users5/unifiedveteranscoalition/index.php/board,306.0 Lots of weird stuff out there ......... Tom Trefts / Director of the Unified Veteran Coalition . AKA : Rainbowrising or catorain |
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Yes we know Tom. Some of us
Yes you're right the program was N-E-V-E-R term'd. Per ODCIA Tenet in a Congressional hearing... There's now a new scuttlebutt that a certain POTUS was a voluntary victim because his dad was ODCIA. I don't know if I believe that one but I read it during my pointless goofing-off OSINT jaunts on the Info Highway somewhere... |
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Hey I really like your website... really neat... Hey Shoe check it out maybe you can find some of yer' old buds from Operation YKW??? |
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Ok 00q, just noted the site. Jeez, yeah, I'll play there a bit. Remember when you advised me to not talk so dirty cause some old agents simply wanted to relax on the internet a bit? I agreed.
The past abuses have been by the Executive who abused his powers. |
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Not really as I say so much here... (Furbies: "Yeah... Yah think 00Q?"). But anyway SIS should have a place to let their hair down and not be tormented by YKW... "Past abuses"? You're not referring to Mr. Tenet are you? If you look at the agency's history I'm sure you can find a WHOLE lot more by other DCIs than him. I mean the present SecDef for instance??? Or how about POTUS-41 just from the short list? |
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