Howdy Gentlemen, I was wondering if everyone in country recieved an ARCOM. I understand that that was what the Vietnam Service Medal was for, but did everyone also get an individual award??
Thank you all very much
NO! The VSM was for serving in RVN. The ARCOM was and is awwared to individuals. Search the the internet, you can find the the answer.
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The short answer is NO ... although there were a lot of ARCOMs awarded. Just personal experience but the greatest majority of people that I know that earned a CIB also got an ARCOM but only about 10% of those who served in Vietnam were eligible for a CIB. On the other hand, I have know quite a few people who were mechanics, supply personnel, etc. who were not awarded the ARCOM, though some of them were.
The award for the CIB is obvious
In Vietnam, the award for the Commendation Medal isn't quite as obvious - it must be awarded by an O-6 or higher - a mechanic could get it for making sure a repair to a needed vehicle happened while under fire and a supply sargeant could get it for dragging c-rats out to the line while under fire - neither gets the CIB, but both get recognized for their service while under fire.
From Wikipedia: The Commendation Medal is a mid-level United States military award/ decoration which is presented for sustained acts of heroism or meritorious service. For valorous actions in direct contact with an enemy force, but of a lesser degree than required for the award of the Bronze Star, the Valor device ("V" device) may be authorized as an attachment to the decoration. Each branch of the United States Armed Forces issues its own version of the Commendation Medal, with a fifth version existing for acts of joint military service performed under the Department of Defense.
I served two years and was awarded the ARCOM in 68 before I transferred to the 1st Cav/15 Medical Bn (Medevac) as a door gunner. While in the Cav I earned my aircraft crewman badge, a Bronze Star, Air Medal w/ 4 oak leafs, and was awarded the Vietnam Cross of Gallantry Unit Citation while serving with Medevac from 68 to 69. Not everyone received an ARCOM, even among the medical service officers and doctors in the 15th Med. And many of those that did receive the ARCOM received it after being recommended for a Bronze Star.
We had helicopter pilots that often had their awards down graded by the Bn CO because he would never qualify for the same award. It got so bad the DoD finally stepped in and began upgrading pilot awards often beyond the original recommendation. Things settled down once he rotated stateside and the new CO took over.
hi! i'm trying to get help w/my dad's dis. papers & what it means. ok ur discussing medals.. he recieved the NDSM, vsm, CIB, VCM W/60 DEV, ARCOM(1ST AWD), AM, M-16 EXP, M-14 EXP. HE had a req. for the gcm but didn't get it? i don't know what w/60 dev & (1st AWD) means. plus his unit, he went to fort polk in la. in 68, he was in the army but all i know is 4th inf. how do i find his unit? please any help.last duty says RVN DET (TAC COM) 3rd AIT BDE 4th USA, but nothing pops up under that?
National Defense Service Medal, Vietnam Service Medal, Combat Infantry Badge, Vietam Campaign Medal (w/60 device means with 60 device which was actually attached to the Vietnam Service Medal, not the campaign medal which would have stars for each campaign fought in), Air Medal, M-16 Expert Badge, M14 Expert Badge (Both for shooting qualifications)
RVN DET (TAC COM) 3rd AIT BDE 4th USA is actually from his orders transferring him to the states. Republic Vietnam detached (Tactical Command) <transferred> 3rd Advanced Infantry Training Brigade, 4th US Army.
Hope that helps some.
Great literal translation BBB! My further loose translation would be: Your Dad was a straight shooter who kept his nose clean and served both on the ground as an infantry man (grunt- a term of respect) and in the air, most likely in the Central Highlands near An Khe. He may have served part of his tour as a door gunner or crew chief, likely on a Huey helicopter(UH-1). He probably served during the time of the Tet Offensive and its aftermath which was at the height of the U.S. involvement in the War.
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