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LEAD MODERATOR Spouse Community "Every Saint has a past, Every Sinner has a future"  |
Thanks for adding us! Member at large at the moment. Any other sisters out there???
Sgt Mom Everything becomes a little clearer, I realize what life is all about. It's hangin' on when your heart has had enough, It's giving more when you feel like giving up. ~ In My Daughter's Eyes, Martina McBride |
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There are a few out and about. Haven't been active in a long time but that is about to change in the near future.
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PM - 1992 Sojourner #608 (now Arcadia 299)
- 2002 Lexington #172 (and a 30 year member!!!) Life is so beautiful beneath the Star!!! SgtMom, where are you a member and when did you first see the Star? Did you go to General Grand? I wanted to but couldn't this time - Maybe in three years in OK!  So make the best of this test, and don't ask why. It's not a question, but a lesson learned in time. It's something unpredictable, but in the end is right. I hope you had the time of your life. - Green Day |
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You know, FL, without our Brothers, there is no Star. Brothers, please sign in, too! So make the best of this test, and don't ask why. It's not a question, but a lesson learned in time. It's something unpredictable, but in the end is right. I hope you had the time of your life. - Green Day |
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Has anyone seen this type of behavior ? (Posted on an anti-Masonic website)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am a female in the U.S. Army and I was just wondering if anyone else was noticing a problem with masons in the military. I have run into several masons in my 4 years in the military and none, sadly to say, have been very good guys. I have seen first hand and also heard from several other females that masons are no good and cannot be trusted. From what I have witnessed, masons tend to use their meetings and fellow brothers as covers to commit adultry and show favoritism in the ranks. I find this very upsetting and now refuse to date or even befriend a mason. I have done some research on the masons and I am going to continue to do so, but so far I have found that masons tend to cover up their bad deeds with talk of good-doings for the community. If anyone has an explaintion or agrees with me please post it. I hope that I am not the only female to notice this trend. |
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Proudest Navy Mom in R.I. "Free 'n Easy" |
OES - R.I. here. Also Mom Advisor of Newport Assembly, and Mom of the GrandWorthy Advisor for IORG 9899. Can't say enough wonderful things about our organizations - we've been to so many states for the GrandAssemblies, and seen my girl go from a shy pre-teen to a wonderful, confident leader that had the most amazing Grand Assembly year! My son in law was also Demoley, and a Mason.
NavyMom in RI Jean |
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Basic Training |
Just like any organization there are good and bad members. You can try to shift thought but you will never be able to stop all bad ones from joining. The actions of a few do not speak for the organization as a whole.
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LEAD MODERATOR Spouse Community "Every Saint has a past, Every Sinner has a future" |
Santa Maria Chapter #496. I'm not local to them now, but looks like I'll be back there this summer. I've never been to a General Grand - hoping to later on. I'm fairly new and saw the star 4 years ago. My grandfather was a Mason of over 50 years though.
Sgt Mom Everything becomes a little clearer, I realize what life is all about. It's hangin' on when your heart has had enough, It's giving more when you feel like giving up. ~ In My Daughter's Eyes, Martina McBride |
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Proudest Navy Mom in R.I. "Free 'n Easy" |
cemab4y -- I cannot answer this from the military stand point. I can answer as the Mom of a little Rainbow Girls that went up the ranks to GWA, and the Masons played such a big part of her growth. They were there for her every step of the way, wether they were on the Board of Directors; being "Dad Advisor"; attending all the IORG functions held each year;
support, support, support,,and with a big capital Support!!! They, and their wives, and all of OES were such wonderful role models for our girls. I cannot even express how I felt when Krisi had her Grand Assembly, and the Masons filed in,,,,,I swear everyone of them that she had come in contact with over the years,,,were there to support her! What an awesome sight that was!!! Sorry for being so long winded,,but I get so angry when someone says something bad about our guys!!! NavyMom Jean in R.I. |
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The only bad things I've ever heard about Masons are from John Ankerberg and similiar "preachers"...nothing on a more personal level. Mama and Daddy said it was an honor to be invited to become a mason (wish we'd had that conversation earlier).
I do have a question though. How does one become a Daughter of the Eastern Star? One of my former co-workers at the P.O. was one but she didn't go into any detail. |
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Ooookay. |
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Bro. FL, while it is true that a man CANNOT be asked to join the most noble of fraternites, that of the Freemasons, our rules and regulations in Eastern Star differ in that we may indeed ask women of proper Masonic affiliation and brother Masons to join with us in our good works for the betterment of mankind.
To become a member of the Order of the Eastern Star, a person must first and foremost believe in the existence of a supreme being - for without such belief our obligation and our lessons would be meaningless. If a person belives in the existence of a supreme being - no matter by what name he or she is reverenced - and is of good moral character and possesses the proper Masonic relationship - mother, daughter, sister, wife, or widow of a Master Mason or if she is a Majority Member of the International Order of Rainbow for Girls or Majority Member of International Order of Job's Daughter but not otherwise eligible for Eastern Star membership, on the basis of her Majority Membership, she would be entitled to receive our degrees. If a brother Mason wishes to join our Order, he needs to have completed his 3rd degree and may petition membership immediately upon his raising. I hope this answers some of the membership questions. The Masonic Family of Fraternities - Making Good Men and Women Better Men and Women! Our Orders ARE a way of life. And in response to the statement about Masons not being good or trustworthy, I personally have never felt safer than in the presence of a brother. Once in the middle of the Nevada desert, on a stretch of highway in the middle of nowhere, my car broke down. I was in my mid 20s at the time. A brother Mason recognized my Eastern Star emblem on my California license plate, and pulled over and got me the help I needed to be back on the road safely once again. As the daughter of a Master Mason I knew where I could find help always. So make the best of this test, and don't ask why. It's not a question, but a lesson learned in time. It's something unpredictable, but in the end is right. I hope you had the time of your life. - Green Day |
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Coleen, Very nice and well put. Also it is a shame that the young lady thinks she has had bad experiences with Masons. This leads me to believe she may have meet some imposters. And has listened to someone who knows nothing about Masonry. S&F, John |
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I am not an Eastern Star but I am a Master Mason and Past Mason of sybolic lodge of Freemasons. When I find some time, I will petition the "Eastern Star," because I have only met wonderful individuals that belong. After becoming a Master Mason, I proudly put up the square and compass in my office and a executive in my office came to see me and asked if I was a "Traveling Man." I responded that I have traveled in the military and when she looked at the square and compass on my desk, I quickly said that I have been to the "East" and we both had a good laugh, and now good office friends. Occasionally, I have had a nice lady come up to me when she see my van with Masonic emblems on it and she will introduce herself to me in the most kind and respectful way. Once when I broke down on the highway, I called a member of my church who I though was a friend and he asked me if I had AAA and I said, yes. He told me to call them and if they can't help call him back. I then called the first brother Mason I could remember the phone number for and got his wife who is an Eastern Star and after explaning my problem, both came to my aid without question or hesitation. We live in a dangerous and untrusting world and I know that it is easier to trust a Mason and/or Eastern Star before anyone else if he or she be a stranger. If anyone else has such stories, post them for all to see. My .02 cents of Master wages. So Mote It Be !
Fraternally and Sincerely, /s/ Terry C. Terhune, Past Master Centre Lodge No. 23 F&AM Indianapolis, Indiana |
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Glad to see so many fellow Brothers and Sisters!! At my base, we are few and far between. I haven't been to a meeting in a long while but it's nice to know there are so many of you around. Thanks for just being available to talk to.
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I was born a star. I was welcomed at the age of 18 and I am now 32. I have sat on esther and in the west. I have noticed this behavior and it is one of the main reasons that I am inactive now. I am the wife of an e7 in the Army. I loved being enlightened and tresured by the Masons but once I became a woman(21)I hated the negative harassment I recieved. But I have to say it is not ALL just SOME! My second year in Morris Brown College I went to Black Week(Spring Break)in Daytona Florida. Myself and two friends traveled there with $150 for gas and $100 each for everything else. We are very proud of being Eastern Stars so we were decked out from head to ankle. We stopped to find a reasonable hotel roome for our 4 day stay! As we were getting the rates at a HOTEL that was in the middle or all the action a gentleman came up to us, introduced himself, exposed his light correctly, I replied correctly and then he offered us a room. He looked me in my eyes handed me the keys and told me to be careful. Never once did he impose or imply anything outside of BE CAREFUL! If you need anything you sned a message through the front desk and I will find you. For me I can never believe that all of these god fearing men are the same. One thing we as a order have to remeber is we only know what we learn. Being that this is a secret society, a faternal order we have to learn eveything. Our lessons, our passes and signs EVERYTHING!! So if this is whats being taught to the newer indidvituals then this is what they're going to do. Ladies please don't jugde them all be BE CAREFUL!!! |
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To all my sisters and brothers I am a Past Worthy Matron, who also belong to every masonic house except the DOI and you all need to go back to the very beginning of why you joined the order. I have been an Eastern Star for the past fifteen years and yes there are some that don't respect the order in any way but for reason. But that does not give us a right to judge our sisters and brothers for their wrong doings. If for any reason that you felt ashamed of being part of this organization you should have spoken up with a firm voice. Never be discourage of what any sister and brother do. Be proud of who you are and where you belong. Yes there are going to be others that will make us look like bad people and a very bad organization but you have to stand up for what is right. If you can't be vocal on what is going on tell someone that will be your voice and everyones elses. Tell Me!!! At the end of my reply you will have my name and email address. For any reason you need to say what is on your mind feel. I have personal numbers of Past Worthy Matrons, Past District Deputy Grand Worthy Matrons, Past Worthy Patrons, and others. Believe me we will make sure that all your questions will answered correctly. So my sister, don't give up on us yet. When you entered the WHITE HOUSE you knew in your heart that there is where you belong and you will always be our SISTA!!!!!!!!!
PWM Donna Banks donna_starbanks@yahoo.com |
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Was she positive in assuming that they were Masons? I've run into a lot of folks who wear Masonic Rings and try to pass themsleves off as "Masons" but a few questions and answers later, I am convinced by their replies that they are in fact, NOT Masons. |
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Hot Topics Moderator |
Not that we Masons need to defend the fraternity, but there are many clandestine Masonic groups. Most of the states in the Southern Masonic Jurisdiction do not recognize Prince Hall Masons. For those who don't know, most if not all Prince Hall Masons are African American. I will stop here because most might know where I am headed with this issue. One must know that in this day and age, anyone can buy a Masonic ring on ebay or on-line, and wearing it does not make a person a Mason. It is equally dangerous to profile individuals for it is politically incorrect. I happen to be Catholic and I don't perceive all Priests to be sexual deviants because of all the crimes they have committed against their parishioners. Also, I don't consider every Middle Eastern male between the ages of 15 and 45 to be a suicide bomber or Al-Queida operative. So, why would someone have such evil things to say about Masons when they had an unfortunate incident happen to them? If one looks for the positive in everything in life they encounter, they will find it. If one looks for the negative in everything and everyone, they won't be disappointed. We Masons only take good men and make them better and we do throw out the bad apples too. My .02 cents. So Mote it be. Fraternally, /s/ TerryTCT, Past Master Centre Lodge No. 23 F&AM Northern Masonic Jurisdiction 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Mason Captain General, Knights Templar Illustrious Master, Council of Cryptic Masons King, Chapter of York Rite Masons (Just to Name a Few Masonic organizations).... This message has been edited. Last edited by: TerryTCT, |
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