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If DMZ information does not pan out I know a couple of brothers from chicago, just let me know...
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I should have introduced myself, I currently living in Las Vegas, I am from Maryland and belong to the "Door to Virtue #46" in Westminster, MD AF & AM |
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Freemasonry and it's antecedents are an insight into much of history. Robert Lomas claims that Freemasonry has forgotten much, but what it has preserved is still impressive. I would recommend a study of Freemasonry to anyone interested in exploring some of history's more mysterious questions.
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Yes, other Masons have made this observation as well.
I don't know that I have or would.
While religious beliefs can serve to elevate humanity such is not always the case. Religious institutions are no less creatures of fallible humans than Freemasonry.
Don't be so astonished. Such is the nature of faith. Like love, it is blind. Faith suspends the light of reason.
I have a friend who considers himself a fundamentalist Christian. He holds as part of his faith that Freemasonry is a one-world Satanic conspiracy and I believe him to be quite sincere in that opinion and not at all a "willful fraud". He has even advised me that members of the Masonic order would kill me if they knew of some of the books I had. Obviously I've talked with Masons about Masonry and I'm still here. I've got to tell my fundamentalist friend about the book store at the London Temple, though I suspect he'd be afraid to cross the pentacled threshold.
There are, of course, rituals and teachings found in the lodge and some Masons are Neopagans. These Neopagan Freemasons find Masonry very compatable with their religion as I'm sure those Christians who are Freemasons find Masonry compatable with their religion. In the Halliwell manuscript of the old Constitutions of Mediaeval Freemasons the words 'geometry' and 'masonry' are used interchangeably and some ancient Pagan geometricians are considered Masons. "The fifth science is called Geometry, and it teaches a man to mete and measure the earth and other things, which science is Masonrie." Pythagoras and Euclid, who were certainly Pagans, are cited as Freemasons by Lightfoot. "The 47th Problem, accredited to Euclid, is said to have been the discovery of Pythagoras, 550 years before the Christian era. He was instructed in the science by Thales, as well as the Priest Initiates of the Temples of Egypt." I suspect those Priest Initiates of the Temples of Egypt to have been Pagans. Again from the Halliwell manuscript, "...thus the Craft Geometry was governed there and that Worthy Master (Euclid) gave it the name Geometry, and it is called Masonrie in this land long after." Of course the 47th Problem of Euclid is geometric truth and truth is not confined to any one religious sect nor is it denied on the basis of sectarian belief either. Freemasonry respects this truth without regard to its Pagan and Cabalist origins and associations. Of course to those who consider Paganism and Cabbala devoid of any truth, such Masonic tolerance is intolerable and they would argue, with some justification, that there are Pagan teachings in the Masonic Lodges.
And, I would add, elsewhere, for truth is where one finds it and the Old Testament is obviously not the only source of truth nor the only source of Freemasonry's teachings.
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Thank you, Looking forward to helping in anyway I can...
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Inverential Peace!
I must say that for some one who is not a so called "Free-Mason" Our dear Friend Kundry has done a great extend of research on the Craft, but be as it may I am not here to judge or congratulate someone on their extended knowledge about the Craft. What I am Here to do and to be and to discuss is the TRUE and Original CRAFT. Now I may not know too much about The Goings on of the friends in the Lodge but that is the real reason why I AM posting something here anyway. All I know and Although I would like to discuss and even though I AM not able to discuss is that The Members of the Lodge and The Lodge that I belong too share the same teachings I know. That True and experienced Masons know; what I AM talking about is those who actually care to study the so called "mysteries of the Craft" But like I said I AM not here to Judge or congratulate anyone. I love and respect The Craft and all of my brothers whether they belong or don't belong to the Great White Lodge. Let it be known that The Craft holds no secrets it is only secrets to those that are not initiated into the Higher "mysteries" Which any respectable "college" shares with the bretheren of The Craft. I may perhaps have already said too much for those of my brothers who do understand but the fact is that we all know our a b c's and it is time for some of the others brothers to come to an understanding about what Being a Member Of The Lodge It Is All About. Some might hate me for speaking truth, others might say I am Not A Member Of The Lodge, which obviously I AM not but like I said If anybody would like for me to pull credentials than I would just say decipher what I have just stated in all of this what I just wrote and you will find yourself among the highest ranking Masons whether they like to admit it or not. There are no egos involved in this, I love appriciate everyone with respect. Do not worry my Higher ranking bretheren I AM not as foolish to divulge anything to the profane. But I feel it is time to; and live up to this Aquerian age. To all of you my Higher bretheren, Peace and may the light of The Most High, The Great Architecht Of This Universe and Beyond Allow Us to Share the true Knowledge and Wisdom for those that are deemed worhty, and not to "cast our pearls before swine". In Spirit and In Truth Israel Emmanuel El'Shaddai Inverential Peace! P.S I AM not anti-mason or anti nothing. I Am Pro truth Pro Craft, Pro Mason pro Integrity, Pro Love My Neighbour, Pro Loyalty, Pro Truth, Pro I Am not a Member Of The Lodge yet, and Pro I wish I alresy was. So Mote It Be! Inverential Peace! |
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already I meant. Thank you amd GOD speed.
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master masons i send fraternal demolay greetings and i don't know if i am suppose to do this so moderator i take no offense if you edit this but my email is kendallinbartlett@yahoo.com
i tell you this for if anyone wants to contact me and i show proof of my good standing membership in demolay, in that if any futher brothers claim to be demolays and have questions regarding the order of DeMolay that i can appropriatly answer their questions that they might have. also feel free to look at my page at www.myspace.com/kendallinbartlett |
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Greetings and welcome aboard: Your post is fine with me. The link to your myspace webpage is actually very impressive with all of the Masonic graphics. Feel free to utilize the Freemasonry link for your DeMolay postings. Fraternally, /s/ Terry, Past Master Centre Lodge No. 23 F&AM Indiana Freemasons Moderator In Training |
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sorry i made a grammer error this is the revised and correct version........
thank you Dad Terry. i was told a few3 months ago by a non-masonic friend that am "overly proud and crazily obssesed" of being apart of the lodge and i said not so, and i asked if there was a such thing as to much patriotism for ones country and he replied no, i asked is there a such thing as loving and showing your love for your religion too much and he replied no as long as they don't shove it down his throat, (this same guy at one point hated me because of my involvement with the lodge who over time got rid of that prejudice) and i asked him if there was a such thing as helping the sick and distressed to much and he replied no. i asked him if there was anything wrong with giving everything you have at your disposal to help someone down on their luck and going through hard times and he replied no and that people should do more of it. and then he asked me why i ask those questions and i stated that we in DeMolay as an appendant body of the masonic lodge do not believe that there is such things being overly obssesed with one's religion, patriotism, helping the needy and people down on their luck. and he came back with "hey ya'll believe the same things i do" and he asked me ,as him being one who cursed me years ago for my involvement with the lodge, if i think he has what it takes to be a demolay........well 2 weeks ago he received the Initiatory and DeMolay degrees, and i am glad to count him as a brother. and thats what i have tried to do with my muyspace profile is show my pride for my religion, my country and for my fraternity, the Order of DeMolay. so i thank you for the compliments on my work concerning my profile, and yet the work on it is never done, i am still adding and editing things that will be more educational and beneficial to all those who see it, and now as i am about to turn in my petition for my Entered Apprentice degree i am trying to figure out a plan of what to put up on my page then...and i know i can count on the fellow lodge mebers here to help me with that, and i tell everyone i know that my page will never be finished until as many people as can, see my page and my enthusiasm for my membership affiliated with the Masonic Lodge, as the best thing that will have ever happened to me in my life. and that is only the present i know would like to tell you how i became involved with the lodge. when i was 8 years old my older sister was invited into rainbow by the young lady who lives accross the street and had babysat us for years and about the time i was 10 i was hanging out with the wrong crowds who were way to old for me to be hanging with, and my dad being a senoir demolay and a police officer knew another police officer who was the chapter dad of the local demolay chapter and so he started taking me around these older demolays who were 15-21 and i started hanging with them and i thought i was cool you know "chillin" with the older guys and gradualy over the next 2 years i stopped hangin out with the punk kids and deliquents and i was told that if i wanted i too could be one of those DeMolay's and i said yes i wanted to be one. and 1 month after i turned 12, the minimum age to become a DeMolay i received my initiatory and DeMolay degrees at the local Scottish Rite. and after wittenesing the last degree (DeMolay) i was in tears along with the fellow candidates and i have since then gone on to graduate high school with a 3.7 GPA and am now a sophomore in my 5th quarter of my bachelous degree majoring in Crminal Justice, and of the 17 guys that i hung out with (them being the hell raising misfits) 14 are in jail from anywhere between the shortest being 15 years to the longest of 25 to life, and the other 3 were dead by the age of 18. and i look back and feel sorry for the guys that were in the same situation i was in but that made some bad decisions which they will have to live with for the rest of their natural lives. so i thank God everyday for his will and him granting me to be able to come to know every person in the masonic lodge as someone to look up to and that sets a good example for all to follow. i thank you for your time and your ears. K. Jewell Lyn Skinner chapter Memphis Tennessee Order Of DeMolay |
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I have thought about the possibility of becomming a Mason for some time now for a number of reasons. From what I can tell my grandfather was a member for a while in CA when he was younger. I understand the requirements that I have seen listed on here, but I do however have a question. When I was 18 years old I was dumb enough to get in trouble for theft and it was a felony. I am now going to be 40 this year and have had no other troubles with the law since then. Will something I did more than 20 years ago keep me from being able to petition? As far as references I have Former Marine buddies who are or were police officers and prison guards who would be more than willing to vouch for me. I am living in Boise ID now and would appreciate any info on this.
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Hello........any chance on getting an answer for my previous post? I would just like to know if I have a chance or not.
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Greetings my friend,
The best place to start is a local lodge. Find one in your area and go to it. Usually, you will find contact information for the lodge officers posted at the lodge. If not, you are sure to find the hours that they meet. Show up and let them know you want to be a Mason. Alternatively, let us know here where you are located. One of the members here may be able to put you in touch with a local lodge. I am in Jacksonville, NC. If you are in my area, I will be happy to assist you. As to whether your past has any impact on your future in Freemasonry, that is up to the Brothers of the lodge you decide to join. Each lodge and Grand Lodge has its own rules for these things. Be open and honest about all of your past and you will most likely have no problems. I'll be checking back here to see if this information has assisted you or not. Feel free to post any follow-up questions that you may have. |
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I would suggest the same thing. Petitiion the lodge and find out.Like Bro Petersen said. Be upfront and honest with them. PLease keep us up to date woth you and good luck
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I have been able to connect Brian (Marinebri68), with the Deputy District Grand Master in his area. He found out, that several of his relatives are masons, and now Brian is on the way to being a Mason!
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I have web searched google and am having a hard time understanding what exactly freemasons are all about... can anyone help me?
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www.masonicinfo.com |
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In reply we say: "2 B 1 ask 1." Actually, to find information about Freemasonry, it is easily found in book stores and elsewhere. Here in Indiana we have a video and it even make "You Tube." (See attached) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x42AGtb0jkw Hope this helps for starters. Fraternally, /s/ Terry, PM Freemason Hot Topics Moderator |
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Hello,
I was wondering if there were any lodges near RAF Mildenhall/Lakenheath in the UK. I found information on lodges that fall under the Grand Lodge of England but I didn't know if they were the same. I was active in DeMolay before the military and I was just looking to try and find if there was a lodge over here where I could get some information. Any help would be appreciated. James |
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Contact me at cookslc@aol.com, and I can assist you.
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I'm an ex-cop, not ex bacuse I got in trouble but by my choice. I am currently in the process of getting back into the military as soon as my old man waivers go through. Anyways I am interested in joining the Freemasons here in NC and maybe transfer membership to wherever I may roam so to speak in the military. Any insight into what I need to do. I do not know any masons, at least overtly know any. What should I do or what do I need to do to intiate the process? From what I understand the Masons are quasi religious to say that they respect the existence of an omnisicent deity but they are primarily secular and very structured.
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Get on the Grand lodge web site of NC, or find your local lodge in the yellow pages. They should have a contact person ( usually the lodge secratary).Give him a call and tell him that want to petition the lodge. After that, fill out your petition and return it ( you will have to pay a fee for each of your 3 degrees).
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Here is my suggestion. Go to the Grand Lodge of North Carolina below (See attached) and there is a link to drop them an email. Do so, and see what they suggest. Good luck. http://www.grandlodge-nc.org/ Fraternally yours, /s/ Terry, PM Freemason Hot Topics Moderator |
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I am in the process of enlisting in the Army, I should be leaving for bootcamp hopefully in about a month. Should I wait till after boot camp and get my first pcs to pursue becoming a Mason, or start here in my current town? Thank You.
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I suggest that you go ahead and petition your local lodge right away. (Provided that you meet the requirements to petition the lodge).
Your local lodge, can begin the paperwork, and determine your fitness for Freemasonry. (You will have to provide names of individuals who can vouch for your character) If you are leaving in a month, then you may have to complete the degree work at the lodge in the community nearest your base of assignment. Your local lodge will assist you. I encourage you to petition right away, provided that you have made the determination that you wish to be a Mason (sounds like you have). I wish that I had been a Mason, when I was on active duty. |
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I already dont like you. My grandfather was a freemason (3 times as long as you) and your post "10 reasons NOT to become a freemason" is a great sarcastic rant that if anyone who KNOWS freemasony, is a post that makes all freemasons look VERY bad. Who the heII are you to take it upon yourself to insult people's beliefs or lack of understanding about the Masons. You do a GREAT job of reverse phsycology in making the average person feel bad about NOT being a Mason. The MOST outspoken 33's have said that in their lodges, they make ANY person who desires to become 1, know that if they are Cathlolic there is a conflict of faith and they WILL be ex-comunicated. AND, those 33's RESPECT the stance of the Catholic church. You represent the "It's ok to sit on the fence of your beliefs while I TELL you what to believe." I respect Catholics that follow their faith and are pushing for more undersanding by the Church. YOU ARE NO ONE to tell ANYONE who follows their faith that they are wrong. Good Masons, THEY DO NOT do like YOU HAVE and say "(5) You are a religious fundamentalist and believe the dogma of your faith is the only one true path to salvation. You believe that your only duty in this world is to convert other human beings to your faith, or **** them to hell if you fail. You have no room for 'so called' religious tolerance, and this idiotic ideal of ‘freedom of religion’ is a liberal commie plot by those pot-spoking hippies in the American Revolution." THESE are NOT the tenets of the craft. These are NOT rantings that a Mason NEEDS to make. I sense you are very far from 33. You know what Dogma even MEANS!! The Masons have Dogma. Its clear you are NO theologian and FAR from anyone assoiciated with MENSA. You dissrespect anyone who is NOT a Mason just because you are misguided one. You spit at religion and the FOREMOST tenent of the Craft!!!! You call people stupid and their religion crap if THEIR beliefs dont coincide with your BLATENT recruitment tactics. You dont have the balls to send your article to a Grand Lodge for review because they would strip you of your membership FOREVER! The Free Mason are TRYING to reconcile MUCH with the Church and you are doing NOTHING but adding fuel to the stupidity fire. |
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Well... talk about taking a nose-dive!
You sir (18376144) are suspended for this personal attack. Take a 10-day cool down in suspension. "I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Oscar Wilde |
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Mon Du, What brought all that on ? I am With Lodge #450. I've only been a Mason for 16 Mo's. I have been a member of three other fraternal organisations So I can say without any reservations that the masons are the most friendy anr sincere org. that I have the npleasure of being associated with. I reacenty watched a documentry on the Masons, in one of the segments a former Grand Master mason said that :We are not a secret orgenisation, WSe are an organisation with secrets. Much like any other fraternaty you can think of. If the masons do have more secrets than the others,It's because the membership don't run off at the mouth about thier lodge to everyone they know. I've seen every kind of confrentation there is in the other Lodges but nothing but Brotherhood in the masons. I will leave you all with that thought. SO MOTE IT BE
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Greetings Brother: I would agree with you 100%. However, the optimum word here is "IN LODGE." That means a tyled meeting among brethren who have all taken the same obligation(s). However, what happens when not in a tyled lodge? I have seen and heard alittle of everything. Keep in mind that this forum is not a substitute for a tyled lodge, therefore, there are cowans and eavesdroppers that stop by, post a flame and leave. As a result, the West Gate is not well defined on this forum or guarded except by a few brethren like myself who are moderators. Keep this in mind. Fraternally, /s/ Terry, PM Freemason Hot Topics Moderator |
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