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The Masonic lodge is NOT a secret society. If you don't believe me, then just do a Google search on "Freemasonry". Members wear rings, belt buckles, caps, etc. I myself, initiated legislation to get masonic vehicle license plates in Kentucky.
Recruitment, that is: Specifically asking a man to join the fraternity is not permitted in most states. Some states permit and encourage members to invite other men to join. On this board, you can get answers to your questions, and if you choose to petition (apply) for membership, we will assist you. We have assisted several men, in joining. I suggest that you read: http://www.masonic-renewal.org/freemasonry_explained.htm for a more comprehensive explanation. If you have any questions on any topic, please PM me, or post it here on the board. If you decide that you wish to petition for membership, we will be glad to assist you. Charles E. Martin Tall'Afar, Iraq |
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Hello there,
I've tried to get more information on becoming a Mason, and have had little luck. I was put in contact with someone about a year ago, but I was going through Chief initiation and couldn't pursue it further. If anyone could help me out, I'd really appreciate it. I live in Lake Villa, IL. Thanks! Will |
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Will, a quick place to gain information is www.gwmemorial.org/Masonry/aboutmasonry2.htm This should give you information concerning Masonry. If you like what you see then contact your local lodge at either 38710 north US. highway 45 Lake Villa, Il. or phone at 847-356-7516 and let them know you are interested in filing a petition. If you need further help please ask. |
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Can you be black and be a mason? Ive been to a few mason rallies, fundraisers, drinking parties, etc. and Ive never seen a person of "color" not even a latino or Asian? Whats the dilly?
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The short answer is YES. |
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So is there a "long" answer? Im quite intrigued, all I have is time right now so go ahead.
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Long answer, The race of a Man is not an issue to becoming a Mason the character of a Man is. A belief in God, petition of your own free will, be of lawful age, 18 - 21, and be recommended on your petition by two current Masons. The petitioned Lodge will investigate the petitoner and vote. If accepted the person will be scheduled for the degree work. If interested this is the basic procedure on how to become a Mason. |
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The requirements for admission into the Masonic fraternity have been clearly spelled out on this board. Admission to our craft, is made WITHOUT regard to skin color, or race. I have been in lodge meetings with men who were black, asian, Filipino, Hispanic, etc.
There are some minor variations in the admittance requirement between the different Grand Lodges of the USA. Since the highest authority in each state is the grand Lodge, and there is no "Grand Lodge of the USA", this is normal. The basic requirements for petitioning the fraternity are: Male Mature of Age (18 some states, 21 some states) Belief in God (NO atheist need apply, an atheist cannot be made a mason) Good Moral character (generally meaning, no felony record, no record of moral turpitude,etc) Some states impose a residency requirement. California requires its petitioners to have been resident in California for at least 12 months prior to petitioning. Georgia has a similar requirement, but there is an exception for active-duty military. To get the exact requirements for petitioning in your state of residence, check with the Grand Lodge of your state. |
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This individual has requested assistance in obtaining a petition. He is serving in the Far East, and needs to contact a lodge near his duty station. Can someone help him locate an English-speaking lodge on Okinawa?
Here is the contact info: Your full name: James Richard Lane III Your postal address city state zip code: PSC 80 Box 21745, APO, AP, 96367 (Okinawa, Japan) Your telephone: 011-81-98-937-0907 Do you believe in God? (NO atheist can be made a mason): I believe in a higher being yes. Have you ever petitioned a lodge of masons in the past?( Sounds like you have not, but state this for the record): Never petitioned Your age ( some states 18 is minimum some states 21): 29 email address: halomantis@gmail.com |
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I'm a Texas Mason. I'm stationed in Galveston at the Coast Guard base and am a member of Anson Jones Lodge #1416 AF & AM in Friendswood, TX. If you need help or information regarding Texas Masonry I will be happy to assist you with whatever questions and info you need.
Email me: CStreeper541@aol.com |
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My question I believe in god how ever I dont believe in organized religion from what i understand is masonery is not a Religion os becoming a mason is not against my beliefs. however when you say god do you mean God as in Christian god or god as in Any singular god (Example Allah, Hare Krishna, zues (example only)? Reason im asking is im a Deist. Which is basically well difficult to explain lol. but i still believe in most christian beleifs such as there is only one god. |
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The following is information is the position of this topic. Freemasonry and Religion Statement of the Board of General Purposes Grand Lodge of England In the light of recent comments on Freemasonry and religion and inquiries to be held by various churches into the compatibility of Freemasonry and Christianity, the Board has decided to issue the following statement in amplification of that originally approved by the Grand Lodge in September 1962 and confirmed by Grand Lodge in December 1981. Basic Statement: Freemasonry is not a religion, nor is it a substitute for religion. It demands of its members belief in a Supreme Being, but provides no system of faith of its own. Its rituals include prayers, but these relate only to the matter instantly in hand and do not amount to the practice of religion. Freemasonry is open to men of any faith, but religion may not be discussed at its meetings. The Supreme Being: The names used for the Supreme Being enable men of different faiths to join in prayer (to God as they see Him) without the terms of the prayer causing dissension among them. There is no Masonic God; a Freemason remains committed to the God of the religion he professes. Freemasons meet in common respect for the Supreme Being, but He remains Supreme in their individual religions, and it is no part of Freemasonry to attempt to join religions together. There is no composite Masonic God. Volume of the Sacred Law: An open Volume of the Sacred Law is an essential part of every Masonic meeting. The Volume of the Sacred Law to a Christian is the Bible; to Freemasons of other faiths it is the book held holy by them. The Oaths of Freemasonry: The obligations taken by Freemasons are sworn on or involve the Volume of the Sacred Law. They are undertakings to keep secret a Freemason's means of recognition and to follow the principles of Freemasonry. The physical penalties are simply symbolic. The Commitment to follow the principles of Freemasonry is deep, and entirely appropriate to this form of obligation. Freemasonry Compared with Religion: Freemasonry lacks the basic elements of religion: It has no dogma or theology (and by forbidding religious discussion at its meetings will not allow a Masonic dogma to develop). It offers no sacraments. It does not claim to lead to salvation, by works, secret knowledge, or any other means (the secrets of Freemasonry are concerned with modes of recognition, not with salvation). Freemasonry Supports Religion: Freemasonry is far from indifferent to religion. Without interfering in religious practice, it expects each member to follow his own faith, and to place his duty to God (by whatever name He is known) above all other duties. Its moral teachings are acceptable to all religions. Original website (indianafreemasons.com) http://www.indianafreemasons.com/imoanti/statement.html Hope that helps. Fraternally yours, Terry Past Master |
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By the way... I forgot to answer your other question about being a Greek, but alot of other people have.
I not only engourage you to become a Mason if you were a Greek, but I can tell you for certain you will get more out of both Masonry and your college fraternity upon doing so. I myself am a Sigma Nu. Several of my brothers from my college chapter have moved on into Masonry. A few of us even belong to the same lodge which is really nice. I was able to find alot of similarities between my fraternity and Masonry, and to no surprise; two of our three founders were Masons. My dad was a Lamda Chi Alpha and he has said the same thing of the lodge. Most all of the "old line" college fraternities can expect some Masonic influence. The "Historically Black" fraternities such as Alpha Phi Alpha, Omega Psi Phi and so forth, owe their existence to the Prince Hall Affiliated Masonic lodges. To that end, even some sororities can be traced back to our womens organizations. And one more tidbit of college fraternity information. The fraternity ACACIA is made up completely of Master Masons. Any more questions, don't hesitate to ask. Hope the info helps and was informative. And again, if you have questions about Texas Masonry, shoot me an email. Chris |
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If anyone here has read the posts that I have left, you will see that I am completly against the Masonic Order. My opinions are basied on the things that I have seen and experenced. 95% of the things that I have seen about the Masons are negitive.
But..Masons being Satanic, Demonic or Anti-Christian...is completly untrue. Despite the things that I have seen, each and every Mason that I have encountered are very spiritual and live a healthy Christian baised life. This may be the only thing that I would back the Masons on. To each his own, but not for me. |
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I read and post here because I would like to be informed about the things that I dislike. Before deploying to Iraq, I read and learned as much about the people and the country itself. If I am to have an opinion, I need to know what I am talking about. And with you being a moderator, I am sure that you can make sure that I dont come back here. I can assure you that I will not use any derogatory usage. And if I am wrong about things, enlighten me. I am almost positive that Masons are not against someone gaining the correct information so that they can make an informed opinion.
By the way, I dont have another account, I have a name...I am not a number...that is the only thing that has changed.....Chris |
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I would like to appoligize to those Masons that I may have offended. I should not have generalized all Masons into one group. I think that I should have been more clearer about the Masons that I was refering to. The problems that I have encountered where from the Prince Hall Masons and the Eastern Star(a group of females that call themselves Masons). I have never attempted to become a Mason, and after seeing that things that I have (see above groups), there is no way that I would want to become one. The diffrent sects of the Masonic Order may have diffrent practices and rituals, and I was wrong to put all Masons into one group. I hope that you can accept my humble appoligy....Chris
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Im a Master Mason from the Grand Lodge of Texas AF&AM. What would like to know? Any lodge work can only be disscussed with another mason.
I wish you luck on your degree work. |
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FREEMASON'S ARE A SOCIETY WHOM HAVE SECRETS. |
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Good Afternoon,
I am interested in learning about and becoming a Free Mason. I live in Canyon, Texas (about 28 miles south of Amarillo) and I beleive there may be a lodge located in Canyon. What steps/paperwork do I need to complete to begin the process? Respectfully submitted, Luis F. Hernandez MAJ (Ret), USAR |
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hey yall im kinda new on this forum but let me introduce myself i am Kendall Jewell a member of lynn skiner chapter order of DeMolay now petitioning my local lodge for my EA. i have been an active DeMolay now for 8 years and i am currently a full time student and sophomore at ITT-Tech majoring Crminal Justice and a member of alpha delta lambda chapter of lambda alpha epsilon (ACJA american criminal justice association) and in 2 1/2 years after getting my bachelours i will be going into the marine corps as a military police officer.now that i see this military site has a section of freemasonry (which i found out about on freemasonpride.com) which if your a member of the masonic family or not or just curious i urge you to read some of the post and meet new people like you rather masonic affiliate or not. it would be so hard for me to describe my expiriances in DeMolay for the past 8 years other than in that 8 years i am still learning new things even though i have mastered the ritual which help me to live my life as a better son, brother, uncle, friend, patriot, law abiding citizen, and a better worshiper at my shrine of faith.
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Congratulations to you for your thought provoking words. Freemasonry you will find will do the same to you as did the Demolay. You will find that being a Mason is a journey and not a destination. Let the light of Freemasonry shine upon you and your soon to be military career my brother Mason to be. Fraternally, /s/ TerryTCT, Past Master |
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thank you Dad Terry i just got my petition monday and i have filled most of it out...matter of fact im finishing it right now, now i gotta get my $50 bucks and i'll turn it in. yep thats right it's that easy, and i see no diference between this petition and my DeMolay one at all. if anybody doesn't know what DeMolay is please visit our website at www.demolay.org and so far from 8 wonderful years i wouldn't trade it for anything, but this time next year i will have reached majority age of 21 no longer be an active DeMolay but then a senoir DeMolay and if i choose (which i'm heavily thinking i will) to become a chapter advisor and DAD. also i am wandering have any fellow Master Masons ever sat in on a DeMolay meeting or especialy the Initiatory and DeMolay Degrees? if not then i must say they are quite impressive especialy the latter of the 2
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This question goe out to anyone that has been a member of the lodge for years. My question is, when I attended an invitation from one of the members of the lodge over in california someone offer to show me around the lodge, I then noticed the Holy Flaming Star hanging but it was inverted. why was it inverted? Esoterically speaking I am not inexperienced I Know that some of the Great Lodges Have been infiltrated by the Black Lodges and I do not mean Black in regards to any people Some of you know what I'm saying. The tenebrous one are attracted to the inverted star. The Brothers of the light are the Holy Flaming Star. Thank you and I hope someone can shed some light on the subject.
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If there is any problem between your church and Freemasonry, it generally is not the Freemasons who hold any objection to your church, but your church that objects to Freemasonry. As you pointed out, some of the earliest Prophets of your church were Freemasons. Joseph Smith Jr., his brother Hiram and Brigham Young come readily to mind. There were also persons who objected to Freemasonry as a "secret combination" in the early leadership of your church. In the latter group I would include the Apostle George Harrison, the Prophet Joseph Smith Jr., and the wife of George Harrison and polygamous wife of Joseph Smith Jr., Lucinda Pendleton Morgan Harris Smith. Now if you were reading closely, you probably noticed that I included Joseph Smith Jr. as both an anti-Mason and a Mason. The truth is, he was both, each at a different time. To understand why, you need to familiarize yourself with an incident in early American history known as the Morgan Affair. The Morgan Affair occured in the time and place where Joseph Smith Jr. lived. He knew both William Morgan and Morgan's wife Lucinda and was influenced by the popular anti-Masonic sentiment that resulted in the establishment of an American political party based on opposition to Freemasonry. In the case of Joseph Smith Jr. this anti-Masonic sentiment found expression in the Mormon scriptures he wrote (or were revealed to him if you prefer). As examples of this anti-Masonic sentiment I offer Moses 5: 31 and 49, "And Cain said: Truly I am Mahan, the master of this great secret, that I may murder and get gain. Wherefore Cain was called Master Mahan, and he gloried in his wickedness." and, "For Lamech having entered into a covenant with Satan, after the manner of Cain, wherein he became Master Mahan, master of that great secret which was administered unto Cain by Satan; and Irad, the son of Enoch, having known their secret, began to reveal it unto the sons of Adam;". During the establishment of the Mormon settlement at Nauvoo, Illinois, however, several infulential Mormons who were Freemasons introduced Joseph Smith Jr. to the Craft and he and his brother Hiram were raised to Master Masons. From then on, Freemasonry was very influential in the development of Mormonism. It was at this time that the garment of the holy priesthood and many of the secret Temple rituals were introduced into Mormonism. Is it mere coincidence that the garment of the holy priesthood features an embroidered compass, square and level or that the compass is embroidered on the breast just as many a candidate for the Masonic degree of entered apprentice is received at the point of a compass to his breast? Is it mere coincidence that the weathervane for the Nauvoo Temple featured a square and compass above the angel Moroni, Pentangular windows evocative of the Eastern Star, and Sun, Moon and Star stones representative of the Mormon concept of three heavens and the Masonic three lights of the Lodge? Even at his death, Joseph Smith Jr. was alleged to have given the Masonic sign of distress hoping that any Freemasons in the crowd would come to his aid. As a Mormon, I do not know if you have been endowed in the Temple, and if so, when you were endowed. Prior to 1990 the Mormon Temple ritual contained much more vivid penalty oaths and a five point fellowship ritual at the veil. Retained today are the hand tokens given at the veil and the green, as opposed to white lambskin, aprons. Curiously, in the Mormon endowment ritual, Satan also wears an apron as a symbol of his priesthood. Perhaps Mormonism still of two opinions as to weather Freemasonry is a "secret combination" of Satan, or a corruption of God's priesthood which Joseph Smith Jr. restored. For further inquiry into the relationship of Freemasonry and Mormonism I would recommend The Masonic Moroni where Mormons, Freemasons and Mormons who are Freemasons discuss the relationship of Freemasonry and Mormonism. |
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As those who are Freemasons have told you, Masonry has no problem with your Roman Catholic faith. The Roman Catholic Church, however, has lots of problems with Freemasonry. The doctrinal position of the Roman Catholic Church on Freemasonry is set out in the Papal encyclical Humanum Genus by Pope Leo XIII. "As Our predecessors have many times repeated, let no man think that he may for any reason whatsoever join the masonic sect, if he values his Catholic name and his eternal salvation as he ought to value them." Pope Leo XIII The Roman Catholic Church believes that affiliation with Freemasonry merits excommunication from the Roman Catholic Church. |
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By 'inverted' I assume you mean it was displayed something like this? That image, by the way, was not from a Masonic Lodge, but is a depiction of the star windows of the Mormon Temple at Nauvoo, Illinois. As I understand it, the five pointed star with one point down is hung on the eastern wall of the lodge. This would make it the Eastern Star. If hung on the western wall, it would be the Western Star. When a Fellow Craft is raised to Master Mason, he is raised from the floor of the lodge from a position on his back with his feet facing east, just a Christians bury their dead in graveyards. As he is raised, he faces east toward the Eastern Star which, is Venus in its position on the eastern horizon, and is the morning star that heralds the coming of the enlightenment of the dawn. Venus, of course, produces no light of its own but merely reflects the light of the Sun which is still beyond the horizon. As the Morning Star, it is thus properly displayed with one point down indicating the source of it's light. As the name would indicate, Venus is feminine and thus the association of the Eastern Star with the women of Freemasonry. Other names for Venus in antiquity were Isis, Ashera, Astarte and the male Lucifer. In Roman mythology, the dawn was the Goddess Aurora, giving her name, Au, to the atomic symbol for gold. Her son, Lucifer, was the herald of the dawn. "Aurora, watchful in the reddening dawn, threw wide her crimson doors and rose-filled halls; the Stars took flight, in marshalled order set by Lucifer, who left his station last." Ovid Metamorphoses "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." Revelation 22:16. The pentacle, with one point down, was also the symbol of Babylonian royalty and was shown next to the names of kings when written. In the Lodges in Texas and what I saw in London, the Blazing Star is properly a ten pointed star which, of course would be the five pointed star displayed 'both' ways as both the morning and evening stars which it does in forty year cycles. The ten pointed star is also an unfolded doceahedron which the Pythagoreans regarded as symbolic of aether or spirit. |
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Que? Whould you care to elaborate on this for me? If not here, contact me via email please. I would like to hear more about this as it is a subject I am not yet familiar with. CStreeper541@aol.com |
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I am a Gulf War Infantryman. I would like to be contacted about the Free Masonic order in my area. I live in Chelsea Michigan. My Phone number is Phone number deleted by Fleetliberal
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