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Top of the morning to you lad's. Ran across this site awhile back. But didn't have the time to sift through it. Nice articles, good reply's to the uninformed or misguided folks. The craft is experiencing a steady flow of young military troopers joining our ranks today. And this forum is a good way to enlighten them on the true facts of our fraternity and not some of the garbage put out by jealous individuals.
Thanks Brother ROBOCOP for bringing this opportunity about.  |
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Thanks for your comments. We have enjoyed this board very much. Please check in often. |
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I second those words of thanks. You are always welcome here! |
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I m a PHA Mason and am very concerned with the information passed here. 1) PHA was warranted by the UGLE and chartered to do work 2) At one point all lodges, even AF&AM lodges seperated from UGLE and 3) who cares if AF&AM lodges does'nt recognize PHA masonry. We continue to do work the same for over 200 years, have steady increased membership, do not have to recruit, have influenced and changed our communities for decades, and continue to develope upright men. So, I say therefore PHA do not worry or care if we are not recognize by AF&AM, we are just fine and do not need or want their recognition!
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Brother Garrtha,
If you have been keeping up with recent Masonic events. You would know that most Grand Lodges around the world and in the US recognize PHA. Just this past week one of the few remaining states Del. F&AM have signed a communication agreement with each other. AF&AM Lodges in Virginia now have African American decent as Past Masters. There are two kinds of people in this world, Good and Bad. Unfortunately there are singular persons in both Masonic Fraternities who do not realize that we need to join hands to defeat the evil in this world today. But as time goes on. I hope that these individual will see the light and move on into the 21st Century of a United Fraternal Brotherhood. Fraternally Yours, John |
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I joined the Freemasons...never returned to another meeting... I won't tell about the rituals...promise... however, what does it have to do with being in the service? And so? Just curious.
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Dragonflyer,Why didn't you go back to a meeting.
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Robo, Could look at Skystar? He is a bit insulting. It is one thing to disagree on something,but this worse than some of the political spats.
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Just didn't... guess I stopped by once... that was it. It didn't seem to be very active.
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Brothers,
Just saw this thread. Thank You brother Rob for starting this thread. I'm a M.M. myself. I am no longer AD Mil, but very active in the craft. It's great to see it alive and well. I was raised at Seattle Daylight lodge #232, seattle Washington, of which I still belong, and also Golden Lodge #1, Golden Colorado. Faternaly yours, S. Kirby |
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I have been a Mason since1964. My only regret is that I have lost contact with my blue lodge. Original lodge was George Washington 820 in K-town, Germany. I think they merged with Galleleo (?) Anyway, I have a couple of years back dues due, and have no idea where to start to get back on co
urse. Anyone out there able to help me? Thanks! WM Lupo,32. P.S. Also reach me at exhorterman6@yahoo.com. |
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Just a reminder to those NOT interested in History. The First Masonic charter issued to a western civilization was to Prince Hall...Astonished? Masons are not a religion. They are a BROTHERHOOD FRATERNITY,,,as you college guys know exist in every segment of our society.Why do envious people badmouth every area of society that they feel unable to contribute any meaningful efforts?.. Wake up! The Great Light has given everyone theseed togrow way beyond anyone's imagination! Just plant,water, prune, and watch!
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Brother Catguy, Sent you the info you need. You should be back on track in no time. Celtic Piper PDDGM |
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My Brother, I would suggest that you contact the Grand Lodge of the state in which you reside--most, if not all, have web sites--and ask the respective Grand Secretary. I believe that Grand Secretary can make contacts for you, or provide contact information. If, for example, George Washington 820 still exists, contact information can be provided. If it no longer exists, I think the Grand Secretary can apprise you of the next step. |
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Got him squared away Brother. |
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HI,I HAVE A QUESTION.I AM A MOTHER WITH A SON IN IRAQ,HE TO IS A MASON AND HIS GRANDFATHER WAS MASON.I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY SON WIFE SINCE MY SON GAVE ME POWER OF ATTORNEY.SHE IS IN THE ARMY TO,SHE ASK FOR DIVORCE WHILE HE HAS BEEN THERE.THEY GOT ONE SON,I HAVE BEEN DOING EVERYTHING FROM REPORTED HER.CAUSE SHE WORKS IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT SHE HAS BEEN ABLE TO KNOW WHERE MY SON IS DEPOSITED MONEY.BUT IS MY ACCOUNT.I HAVE BEEN PAYING THE MORGAGE WHICH IT IS OVER A THOUSND DOLLARS,I BEEN SENDING HER MONEY FOR BABY SITTER LIGHT BILL YOU NAME AND I HAVE DONE,FOR THIS WOMEN.NOW SHE IS MESSING WITH MY PERSONAL ACCOUNT.PLEASE HELP ME CONCERNING THIS PROBLEM.I KNOW I HAVE PROVE OF EVERY CENT THAT I SEND HER.EVERYTHING CONCERNING MY GRANDSON MONEY FOR MY GRANSON BIRTHDAY PARTY.I FOUND OUT SHE GOT A ACCOUNT,UNDER HER NAME ONLY.I AM TRYING TO CLOSE A ACCOUNT THAT MY SON AND HER HAVE WHEN HE LEFT CAUSE SHE MAKES CHECKS AND TAKE OUT MONEY WITH NO MONEY THERE.I BEEN DEPOSIT MONEY THERE TO CAUSE THE BANK SAY MY SON HAS TO PAY FOR WHAT EVER SHE DOES BECAUSE SHE IS IN THE ACCOUNT.SHE GOT IN TO MORE BILLS WHEN SHE HAD POWER OF ATTORNEY.WHICH RIGHT NOW MY SON DONT KNOW.I KNOW HE IS WAR AND I DONT WHAT TO GIVE HIM MORE OF HIS WIFE DOING. BUT THIS WOMEN HAS ME GOING CRAZY AND WHEN I TRY TO TALK TO HER SHE LAUGHS AT ME.PLEASE HELP ME.I KNOW I NEED A LAWYER WHERE CAN I FIND A LAWYER THAT IS MASON AND IS IN THE ARMY.THEY ARE BOTH FROM FORT STEWARD HINESVILLE GA.THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE STATION.I TOLD HER I WAS GOING TO TALK TO HER COMMANDER,BUT SHE SAID NOT TO CALL HER COMMANDER CAUSE SHE IS A WOMEN AND WILL BE IN HER SIDE.I DONT UNDER HOW CAN A COMMANDER DO THIS.SHE IS MESSING WITH MY ACCOUNT,PAYING HER BILLS WITH MINE ACCOUNT.PLEASE HELP ME.THANK YOU!!
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Awesome! Thank you!! |
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Hello, This is a difficult situation indeed. It looks like you already know what to do -- contact an attorney. An attorney would be best to help you and advise you in this case. The link below is the Ft. Stewart Installation Guide. Therein is the phone directory. In there, you can find the legal office phone number. Please do not delay in this matter. http://benefits.military.com/misc/installations/Base_Content.jsp?id=1195 |
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Though I currently have no affiliation with the honorable Masonic order (I was a Demolay Kt during my adolescent years), I have been approached several times by various lodge members, and even have been offered sponsorship for inclusion into several "related" orders of knighthood: The Knights of St. Lazarus of Jerusalem, and the St. Stanislaus Priory of the Knights Hospitallers. Though recently I began postulant status to the Knights Templar.
I am a film writer and producer and in current development on a project concerning the Templars and Rosslyn. The focus is more on the Knight history in Scotland up to the mid 20th century, as my bloodline was also involved. |
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I am not familiar with the Knights of St. Lazarus of Jerusalem, and the St. Stanislaus Priory of the Knights Hospitallers being connected to Masonry. Also you have to be a Freemason to be admitted to the Order of Knights Templar. |
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Thr Knights Hospitallers are not of Freemasonry, though they both date to the dark age crusades. Back in the 14th century, it was the KH who
conspired with the early Catholic Church against the KT to whack all the Templars and steal their treasures. Though these days, they are strictly humanitarian and many of them are also affiliated with other orders such as the Georgian Knights, Knights of Malta, etc. Concerning my postulant status, the documentation I have does not state any requirement what-so-ever about being a mason. Several of the Templars I know of are also not masons. The understanding was that this was through the lineage of the original Order of Knighthood not the "safe cover" affiliation with the F&AM. I really don't want to get into any negative politics, as my desire is educating and enlightening the world about the Templar history via the silver screen.... and DVD's. FreedomCelt |
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Freedom Celt, Since you were a Demolay I was concerned that you may have been getting into organizations that may be bogus. Have you read Born in Blood. A lot of research had gone into it about the Knights Templar and how the Knights Hospitallers tried to usurp the Templar. |
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The organizations mentioned are not "Bogus".
These both have 'Heads of State' and members of Royal Families in their ranks. My "sponsor" was Bailey McCune of McCune, the Baron of Elphinstone, of Scotland (a long time friend). My mistake was not persuing these when I had the opportunity. I have a few other colleagues in one of the orders or the other. All are upscale persons of honorable standing and other mentions, and veterans of distinguished service via US or British military. I skimmed through the book you mentioned, during a recent excursion to Barnes & Noble. It is on the "Buy list" for my next visit. As I previously stated, the current KH are humanitarian and do affiliate with other orders, such as the KT. In the long run, creative license will be expressed in my film and we all should make lots of money - with a fair percentage of profits also going to the Templar Order (until they re- discover their own Treasure - if it hasn't been spent by now....) |
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Greetings Brothers,
Its been awhile since I last posted. But I am glad to see this thread. If anyone has brothers out at Sandy that need a slice of home let me know. Fraternally yours, Mike (Doric886) (Cpt Mike-CO USMILNET) |
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Dmuhler, not sure how you meant that but in order to become a mason you need to ask of your own free will. A mason will only ask once... Mike |
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The Grand Lodge of Massachusetts has put out a very informative web site.
http://www.massfreemasonry.org |
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Wow! great deal having this forum come along. I'm retired Army, a 32nd degree Scottish Rite Mason and a Knight Templar. I enjoy nothing more than Masonic Fellowship and discussion. Looking forward to spending time here.
Todd |
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There are a lot of Brothers that see this the same way. That is one of the reasons that we are starting to see the emergence of Traditional Observance Lodges. In a TO Lodge there is a minimum of 3 months between degrees and the candidate must not only "prove up" on the memory work, but must submit a paper on what he has learned in the previous degree. The typical meetings are very heavy on Masonic education and fellowship instead of read the minutes, pay the bills, have ham sanwiches and go home. TO Lodges are Freemasonry the way it originaly was. |
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Different Grand Lodges have different rules and customs. With no "Grand Lodge of the United States of America", each state can pretty much do as they please.
Some states, such as Virginia and Missouri, have one-day classes. You walk into the lodge hall at 0600am on a Saturday morning, eat breakfast with the masons, then you do the 1st/2nd/3rd degree ceremonies one after the other, then walk out of the lodge hall a Master Mason. Some states are very proud of their one-day classes. Not all men are able to attend lodge meetings at night, and devote the time to pursuing the symbolic degrees, as in the past. Grand Lodges who sponsor these one-day classes realize that there are benefits and disadvantages as well. Some people refer to a one-day mason as a "McMason". Some states are doing away with the memorization, and opting instead for having the newly made mason, work in private with a tutor, who will review the ceremonial work, and most especially the obligations. Instead of rote memorization, the lodge coach emphasizes the understanding and meaning of the work. Looking behind the words, and more closely at the duties and burdens inherent in the obligations. We, as masons should realize that Masonry is a "work in progress". Although we should never forget our "roots" ,and our heritage, we should keep looking to the future. Different methods of learning, such as the internet and instructional videos, can be very useful in learning our duties as masons. Some men are not comfortable giving a recitation in front of a group of other men. If the newly made mason can understand the duties inherent in the obligation, and not give a recitation, then so what? As long as he lives up to the obligations, then he is a well-made mason. Some traditionalists are appalled that some lodges use instructional videos. They forget the charge in the Entered Apprentice degree, where all masons are enjoined to "improve themselves in Masonry". I prefer to take an "eclectic" approach. I personally have no serious problem with a one-day class, if the newly made mason can meet his obligations, and serve the craft and his fellow man with courage and devotion. I have no problem with reducing or eliminating the recitations, provided that the Mason has the understanding necessary to use his working tools with pride and devotion. In all of this discussion, we should all remember the phrasing in the Entered Apprentice degree: -Where were you first made a Mason? -At Heart! Charles E. Martin Al Asad Iraq |
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"Some states, such as Virginia and Missouri, have one-day classes. You walk into the lodge hall at 0600am on a Saturday morning, eat breakfast with the masons, then you do the 1st/2nd/3rd degree ceremonies one after the other, then walk out of the lodge hall a Master Mason."
Brother Charles, I'm very familiar with the Virginia one day class. And it is not a simple as it may sound. The candidate's do not walk out at the end of the day a Master Mason. Each candidate has a mentor who will instruct him to be proficient in all three degrees and will have proved himself as such before officially being awarded the title as such by the Grand Lodge. This has helped in acquiring back Doctors and such who do not have any spare time for lengthily outdated instructions. |
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) and I am sure most of what is said in our work, could be found on the internet. And BTW to be a mason, you must ask a mason.