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Here is one big misinterpetation in the KJ bible, Thou shalt not MURDER, but in KJ it states thou shalt not kill. There is a big differance between kill and Murder, yet in xtian teaching this miss quote from the Torah is taught. I have read alot of many different xtian bibles and most if not all interpet thou shat not murder as thou shalt not kill.
WHY? D.J. |
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Hi D.J. Most serious students of scripture have long since researched the original language versions and did a word look up to understand the changes in translation. This one I discovered within 3 weeks after giving my life to Christ. There are many others as you state in the title to this thread. God's Spirit is my teacher and guide in my search for TRUTH. I believe He is there for everyone who SINCERELY searches for Him. God Bless and keep you, LJ |
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But why would 'the infallible word of God' need any further research? |
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Because of the dismal track record of MAN'S failures that's why.
This that Donnie has brought forward is just one of them. It is also one that has been known for centuries and taught differently in most churches, unless it suits the power structure in keeping the herd under control....a dispicable process in my estimation....but you all knew that!! T |
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It may sound like a trite answer, but: God is infallible. The humans who translate the various documents contained in what is known as the Bible are not infallible. For example, does anyone really believe that the translators hired under King James of England to translate the Bible into English were not, in any way, influenced by the personal opinions of King James - the guy paying their salary? As Matthew quotes Jesus in Chapter 23, Verse 24 (assuming that quote was properly translated  )One needs to be very careful about baseing one's entire life on one single, specific word in one of the many translations of the Bible. Read several - and then use the brain some of us believe God gave us (some others believe we acquired a brain without any intervention of any God ) to decide for yourself which is correct. |
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I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. age
Thou shalt have no other gods before me. EE Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, age Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: ain for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. ain Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. EE Thou shalt not kill. eel Thou shalt not commit adultery. EE Thou shalt not steal. eel Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. or Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbor's. or Does anyone besides me see a rudimentary rhyme scheme here? Rhyme makes things easier to memorize. Shakespearean-era writers (possibly Shakespeare himself) were hired to beautify the language of the King James Version. Would it be beyond them to do this? Have some fun with this: http://www.baconlinks.com/VVILL/Psalm46.html Shakespeare was 46 the year the King James Version was commissioned and some 50 scholars and scribes were put to work translating, editing and beautifying it. When it went to print in 1612, Shakespeare retired to Avon and never wrote another play. He died in 1616 and Bacon followed him in death in 1626. Between 1616 and 1626, all of Shakespeare's plays appeared all cleaned up and in perfect "Shakespearean" Language in a single published collection. Nobody is certain who did that.... Shakespeare's name can be found in psalm 46... by counting 46 words down and 46 words up. The word "spear" should obviously be "arrow"... Shakespeare and Bacon were both Masons - - The Psalms 46 God Is Our Refuge and Strength To the chief Musician for the sons of Korah, A Song upon Al'amoth. (Start Here - count 46 words down. Don't include the numbers.) 1 God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. 2 Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea; 3 though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah. 4 There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the Most High. 5 God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early. 6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted. 7 The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah. 8 Come, behold the works of the LORD, what desolations he hath made in the earth. 9 He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire. 10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth. 11 The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. (Start here - count 46 words up. Don't include the numbers.) This message has been edited. Last edited by: greywolfghost, Wandering and Wondering |
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Hi Thorin001, When did MY words Holy scriptures inspired by God and written by Man turn into 'the infallible word of God'. Now before you ask, God's word is infallible. Hopefully you understand the difference I have outlined. LJ |
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I think what others might be trying to point out is that it is the inflatable word of God.... expanded and filled with hot air!
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I don't think so two both points you made. (a) Not sure that is what others are trying to point out.  (b) Books are not inflatable or filled with hot.  LJ |
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Maybe you will be able to answer a question I have. Why do Christians go to church on Sunday when the Bible says to go on Saturday? |
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Yes it inflats our souls. |
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Why do you type xtian in place of Christian? |
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I don't think that the book is the infallible word of anyone. But several people seem to. Mostly those people telling me I have to live according to their mythology or else. |
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The command to "Remember the Sabbath Day and Keep it Holy" was given to Israel along with the rest of the 10 commandments. Gentiles were not given this command. in short the Sabbath/Seventh day was a gift from G-D to Israel. D.J. |
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Just call me lazy i reckon D.J. |
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Genesis 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. Genesis 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. Adam and Eve were not Jewish, they were Gentiles. The Hebrew nation came after Father Abraham. Right? |
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Thought maybe you were anti-Christian. |
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It is from the original Greek Χριστός (Khristós). |
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Genesis 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. You are very right G-D rested, he did not tell anybody else to rest on the seventh day, or did i miss that somplace? Genesis 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. again very true, G-D rested, but he still did not tell man to stop. Adam and Eve were not Jewish, they were Gentiles. The Hebrew nation came after Father Abraham. Right? Adam and Eve were both gentile, neather Adam or Eve were commanded to rest on the seventh day, after the problem in the garden G-D commanded that man would work the fields for his food he never gave the gentile the 7th day as a day of rest. D.J. |
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OK Abraham was a Gentile until when? Whan did he become a Hebrew? In other words when did he (Abram stop being a Gentile? |
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When G-D made the covnant with Abram. D.J. |
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When was that D.J. where in the Bible? |
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D.J.
Genesis 14:13 13And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these were confederate with Abram. Name of the Day עבר ('BR - Eber) Abraham is the first person called a Hebrew (Genesis 14:13) in the Biblical text. What does the name Hebrew mean and where does it come from? Abraham's G,G,G,G,G Grandfather was Ever (or Eber) "And Arpakshad bore Shalach who bore Ever" (Genesis 10:24). The Hebrew spelling of the word Hebrew is עברי and the Hebrew spelling of Ever is עבר. When the letter י is placed after a name it means "one belonging to the family of ..." and in this case a Hebrew is one who belongs to the family of Eber. By definition, a Hebrew is one who is descended from Ever and this would include Abraham as well as his brothers Nahor and Haran. While the lineage's of Nahor and Haran seem to disappear, probably absorbed into other cultural groups, only Abraham and his descendents remain Hebrews to this day. The root עבר means to "cross over" or "pass through". As names play a very significant role of the ancient peoples of the Near East, this name and its meaning is indicative of Abraham and his descendents. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were nomads who by definition are ones who travel or pass through many lands on their nomadic journey. In Genesis 12:6 we read (From the KJV) "And Abram passed through the land unto the place of Sichem, unto the plain of Moreh. And the Canaanite was then in the land." The phrase "passed through" is the Hebrew verb עבר (the same word as the noun/name Eber). Here he is a Gentile. |
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Genesis 17:1,5 When Abram was ninety-nine years old the Lord appeared to him and said, I am God Almighty walk before me and be blameless. No longer will you be called Abram your name will be Abraham, for I have made you a father of many nations. Today we will see Sarah’s impatience and the birth of Ishmael as a result of his human calculation. God appeared to Abram after 13 years of silence and rebuked him to walk before him and be blameless. Then God changed his name from Abram to Abraham and renewed his covenant as an everlasting covenant. God commanded Abram and all males in his households to be circumcised as the sign of the covenant. Abraham obeyed God’s command immediately. |
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Christians go to church on Sunday because in 605 A.D. the Roman church changed the Sabbath from Saturday to the first day.
The reasons for doing this were to differientate from the Jews and to take the Sabbath away from the pagans as well, which was first day.....Sunday. By 685 A.D. it was canon law. The seventh day adventists and others believe this to be a blasphemy but scripturally Paul has a passage about differing Sabbaths and as long as you honor one day a week to the Lord it's covered.....maybe......scripture also says Honor "this day" and keep it holy....the seventh day, not the first! Donnie's interpretations are interesting to read, are they not?? T |
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So how would you relay this? For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. Hebrews 4:8-9 |
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Jesus said, "The Sabbath was made for men, men were not made for the Sabbath." This would imply that as David and his men ate the show bread and Jesus and His deciples walked aeting grain on the Sabbath that the day was for men and that most of the "laws" that were to protect the Sabbath, among other things, were in error as they kept the "letter of the law" but the spirit of it that God intended, was lost. It is no accident that the word recreation is derived from two roots re.....create!! Rest and re...create YOU with a day of rest!! T |
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I only inserted a little of all you missed. Pleae if you are going to quote scripture from the bible use it all The verses I quoted were from "THE TORAH" A Modern Commentary,Edited by W.G.Plaut D.J. |
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Thank you T. |
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Yes Bruce D.J.'s interpretations are interesting. I am not sure your state about the Seventh Day Adventists is on point. I visited their church with a friend and had a good long discussion about some of their teachings. The way I understand it, they believe that the 10 commandments of God are for all Mankind. That God wrote them directly so that there could be no argument about interpretations and other such things. That the willful and continued breaking of any of the commandments keeps a rift between man and God. The particular scripture written by Paul that you referenced is interpreted differently as referring to the celebration days created by man. They have other things that are interesting to contemplate and I leave for another day and another time. Thought I would share that bit of info. LJ |
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