Originally posted by swremwin:
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Originally posted by ixcatzin:
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Originally posted by swremwin:
If you wish to read a couple of other books penned by Luther try his "Bondage of the Will"; and "Commentary on Romans" and "Commentary on Galatians" or Luther's German language Bible... which basically shaped the German language.
Happy Reformation Day!
Hi swremwin,
I recommend you to read 'On the Jews and Their Lies' also by Luther. Here is a link where you can read his work "http://www.outreachjudaism.org/luther1543new.html
Ixcatl
Oy vey! Ixcatzin --- I haven't posted over in this section for quite awhile. Instead of "raining on my parade"... you could have said something like : "Hello - Welcome back - please post more of your wisdom to counteract the rabid atheists and perves that have polluted this section of the website." { Or something like that...}
Wisdom? Rabid Atheist and perves? What are you talking about? Raining on your parade? I gave you something to read by the same author you were promoting. When it is Yom Kippur or Rosh Hashannah --- have I ever posted anything against you or the descendants of Jacob ? Nope. Matter of fact...
I did not write anything against your reformation day. It was not me the one that wrote 'On the Jews and Their Lies' it was Luther the Father of the Reformation. Actually, you may not have heard about this book before. You should read it. You should know better the works of the writers you promote.I've posted over in the Middle East section against a looney Israeli/jew hater ( of Syrian descent) who would like to see Israel pushed into the Med. Sea.
I might (maybe) read the link that you posted above, but - after you read and give us a book report on Roland Bainton's book which I mentioned in the opening post.
Does Baiton's book analyze Luther's influence in the spread of Antisemitism in Europe? Or is just going to tell us how Luther was angry at Pope Leon X?Without reading it... I'll take a guess that if Herr Luder ( a very educated man, btw) said something negative about "The Jews", then it was in responce to the writings of the rabbis over the centuries which have bad-mouthed (insulted) Jesus of Nazareth and accused him of being an offspring of a roman soldier and Mary.
Read it, it says more than that. He asks good Christians (like you) to burn our Synagogues and our books, raze our houses, take our properties,and to kill us. He wrote: "[w]e are at fault in not slaying them.".
In modern times he would be considered a terrorist, maybe he would head the list of most wanted terrorist by the FBI. Now, you wouldn't agree with that kind of teachings if the teachings came from radicals, right? You would not say: since the Jews insulted Jesus, let us burn the synagogues? Or would you? Luther did.The Bible says and Christians since the 1st Century A.D. have held that Mary was a virgin who was overshadowed by the Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost) and traveled to Bethlehem to give birth. You have been told this by myself and others for a couple of years now. You don't believe it. We do. Therefore Christians ( such as Martin Luther ) over the centuries have defended the character of Jesus Christ.
Right, I know, we know. Blood has been spilled in process of defending Jesus' character. So, tell me what is the difference between that and Islam's reaction to Mohamed's cartoons, the beheading of infidels, etc.? do you agree with that too? If the rabbis/jewish writers and teachers can dish out insults, then turnabout is fair play. Personaly... I try to be descent to folks - but, when someone insults the One who went to the cross and paid for my sins... well it does tend to get a person riled up.
It was more than an exchange of insults about a Jewish boy. Do not downplay it. All the rabbis and the Roman officials in Judea had to do was produce the dead body of the Nazarene carpenter, and it would have halted Christianity in it's tracks. They did not, so they reverted to the old way of defaming/refuting a person ... By questioning his or her birth situation.
The Rabbis reverted to insulting, Luther to teaching violence against the Jews. I see how fair it is! 
