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The transferability process is a joke. So not only is the VA dragging its red-tape laden feet, but apparently the services have to publish guidance on certifying servicemembers' eligibility. Even though Congress has acted, the VA has passed regulations, and the DoD has published a Directive-Type Memorandum implementing certification, each of the services have to publish implementing guidance. Meanwhile, I'm waiting to transfer a benefit that may not come by the time my wife has to pay her tuition. Further, will the services be able to impose additional requirements on top of that of Congress' intent? Until the Army publishes guidance, I'm left waiting...
 
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The transferability process is a joke. So not only is the VA dragging its red-tape laden feet, but apparently the services have to publish guidance on certifying servicemembers' eligibility. Even though Congress has acted, the VA has passed regulations, and the DoD has published a Directive-Type Memorandum implementing certification, each of the services have to publish implementing guidance. Meanwhile, I'm waiting to transfer a benefit that may not come by the time my wife has to pay her tuition. Further, will the services be able to impose additional requirements on top of that of Congress' intent? Until the Army publishes guidance, I'm left waiting...


Yes, each branch is authorized by congressional law (and so was DoD) to impose their own requirements/stipulations/guidance/rules as to who will be eligibile to transfer benefits. The only reason you have the option to transfer benefits is because DoD went in and fought to get it for you.

Normally bringing a program of this type online would take a minimum of three years - Congress told VA and DoD to make it happen in one year - It then went through a several month period of the lawyers for DoD and VA to interpet the law and establish policy/proceedures - then they had to develope computer programs to handle the processing and hire additional people to handle the increased workload and then train all current and newly hired people - Training is ongoing as they have started processing applications at VA and will continue for many months. Dod was late on publishing their rules and opening up the web portal because some items in the law had to be clarified. The Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, Guard and Reserves could not publish their polices until after DoD had published their rules.

For everything to be as far along as it is, is just amazing when you consider the man-hours that people in Dept of VA and DoD have had to put into getting the program this far since the law was signed 1 July 08.


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If I was in after post 9/11 and tried to get these benefits, I would forfeit any older benefits earned. I can't get any medical benefits now.(No Space Available) VA denied a claim because I have been exposed to loud noise since seperating from service(34 years) but won't tell me what the noise was and my assets take me over the $30000 cutoff I was quoted so I am not needy enough! NAS is being closed (BRAC)so I am really thrilled about this new health plan the nut cases in Congress are going to jam down our throats. Should have gone to Mexico years ago and would have been in "fat city" with all of the benefits illegals are getting.
 
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Perhaps someone can help me with this...

I received my BS years ago, and my MGIB lapsed... which I thought odd, as I was still in the National Guard. In theory, I still had money in the old GI Bill. But, if I am no longer considered eligible to collect benefits under the old MGIB, then I really forfeit nothing, UNLESS there is a movement afoot to give us BACK our remaining MGIB moneys.

Anybody know... WTF is going on?
 
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Perhaps someone can help me with this...

I received my BS years ago, and my MGIB lapsed... which I thought odd, as I was still in the National Guard. In theory, I still had money in the old GI Bill. But, if I am no longer considered eligible to collect benefits under the old MGIB, then I really forfeit nothing, UNLESS there is a movement afoot to give us BACK our remaining MGIB moneys.

Anybody know... WTF is going on?


There is no movement afoot to give you back your remaining MGIB moneys.


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Must be nice! Post Vietnam veterans to 9/11 are eligable for Zip!!!! Even though some of us had hazardous duty and did Grenada and Panama and Desert Storm as well. The Montgomery Bill was a joke the most I ever got out of it was $75 per month, paid for my gas and phone bill, wow!!!!! Once again Generation X and Y get screwed, all we get is the bill!!!! Signed ****ed of Vet!!!!
 
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Perhaps someone can help me with this...

I received my BS years ago, and my MGIB lapsed... which I thought odd, as I was still in the National Guard. In theory, I still had money in the old GI Bill. But, if I am no longer considered eligible to collect benefits under the old MGIB, then I really forfeit nothing, UNLESS there is a movement afoot to give us BACK our remaining MGIB moneys.

Anybody know... WTF is going on?




Have you been called to active duty under title 10 orders since 9/11/01? Because if you have and that call up was 90 days or more then you get another 10 years to finish using your MGIB education benefits.
 
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What's the turn around time to see a deposit after the school has submitted the final leg of paperwork. Paperwork was submitted on September 11, 2009.

My book bill was so incredibly high this year with core classes. I sure wish the faculty would offer more of the books on reserve at the libraries. It would sure make many lives easier.

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What's the turn around time to see a deposit after the school has submitted the final leg of paperwork. Paperwork was submitted on September 11, 2009.

My book bill was so incredibly high this year with core classes. I sure wish the faculty would offer more of the books on reserve at the libraries. It would sure make many lives easier.

JD


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Thank you...
(edit/rant) and please get your act together over there... there are at least 250k+ Chap 33 GI Bill recipients who need money for books and rent money. Creditors wont be waiting for excuses and neither will I. Do you guys even know what's going on in your department because my school is getting one answer and I'm receiving another. Grease those gears over there; too many of us are suffering from heat of the new bills failure to move forward.

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They know and they care, their people have been working 30 hours manadory overtime per week to include Saturdays. Took a few months for the DoD and VA lawyers to interpet the bill, then develope policy, then train everyone (plus hire more people) and develop procedures and build a couple of computer programs to process and pay.

The VA told Congress it would take minimum two years to bring this program online - Congress said make it happen in one.


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I wish I could get it
I do not qualify under Montgomery GI Bill
I do qualify under the 911 but thire is a cluse that not to manny know about. If the school is not a college the 911 will not pay for it, even thought the school is VA recognized and approved under the Montgomery.
 
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