RE: http://forums.military.com/money-for-school/gi-bill/new...ntly-asked-questions

How will these changes affect Students already in states that pay the full tuition- like WI?

Are veterans who recieved a General Discharge eligible?

I was owndering if the new Gi bill is going to pay for our tuition than will we even have to file for finaincial aid?

my question is this:

i am retired army with 100% service connected disability currently rceiving disability from va.

i was told that my son who is now in high school is eligible for the montgomery gi bill based on my disability.

i wonder if this new gi bill will be in effect for him also.

please contact me via my email at driggan3@nc.rr.com

So, as a reservist, when I went from chapter 1606 to chapter 1607 (REAP), there was an option to get it back dated to when I began using chapter 1606 and just get the difference paid. Is this an option if I go to the new GI Bill versus ch. 1607??

i used my initial 36 months of the mongomery gi bill, but meet the requirements for the new gi bill, will i qualify

My child will be using the gi bill for college from her late father's in-the-line-of-duty death prior to 9/11. They are raising the entitlement for the new gi-bill because of rising costs (I assume). Will they also be looking out to help EVERYONE who has served or just recently served? It seems to me that the costs are all the same whether the solider served recently or prior to 9/11, everyones benefits should increase.

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Originally posted by 17077931:
my question is this:

i am retired army with 100% service connected disability currently rceiving disability from va.

i was told that my son who is now in high school is eligible for the montgomery gi bill based on my disability.

i wonder if this new gi bill will be in effect for him also.

please contact me via my email at driggan3@nc.rr.com

(Replied to your email, but in case anyone had a similar question)

I'm guessing you got some information slightly distorted from the VA. In all likelyhood, your son is not eligible for the GI Bill, but instead, for Chapter 35, Survivors' and Dependents' Educational Assitance Program. It's still a pretty good deal. Pays $881 per month at the moment for a full time student. Not as good as the GI Bill, but still a big help. My sister gets it because my dad is also rated at 100%.

With the new GI Bill, there looks to be very specific requirements for transfering the benefit, including additional time served (believe it was 6 years). Also you must be currently serving to do the transfer, as I understand it. Here is a quote from the bill:

`(1) TIME FOR TRANSFER- Subject to the time limitation for use of entitlement under section 3321 an individual approved to transfer entitlement to educational assistance under this section may transfer such entitlement only while serving as a member of the armed forces when the transfer is executed.

Hope this helps. I'm certainly no expert on this matter, but I've been doing a lot of reading on this subject.

I was wondering how the Navy College Fund distribution is affected by this? I've been reading up on this on available information but I'm unable to find out anything about this.

I'm in the process of using my benefits at the time, and I'm curious to see if I should take a break to allow the full benefits to come into effect to transfer my benefits to the new G.I. Bill...

Back to my questions however: Does my Navy College Fund then become a stipend to me? It is currently paid in tandem to me from the G.I. Bill. (G.I. Bill is roughly 1131.00 right now, I get approximately 1600.00 because of my kicker (from the Navy College Fund enlistment bonus in my contract). Does that kicker get added to the BAH or do I simply lose it if I transfer my benefits to the new G.I. Bill?

if anyone knows the answer to this
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does anyone know if the BAH is taxable or not? I know that on active duty it's not.

I'll be getting out of the Army here pretty soon, and I qualify for this new G.I. Bill, but I was wondering, will the new G.I. Bill cover schools in the UK? I really want to go to a certain university in Wales.

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Originally posted by 9738202:
i used my initial 36 months of the mongomery gi bill, but meet the requirements for the new gi bill, will i qualify

Since you have exhausted the full life of the Montgomery G.I Bill, I'm pretty sure you will not be able to use the new G.I. Bill as well. I think its more of a One, or the Other, type deal.

If I am rated at 100% with the VA will my children be able to recieve my benifit, or is it only for military discharged.

My discharge was general under honorable conditions due to not serving my full term. I hear that you have to have a complete honorable discharge in order to recieve the bill, is this right? I did serve more than 2 years of my term so that shouldnt be an issue. If nothing else why cant we just have the money that we put in it every month for 12 months back?

When I heard about the idea that now after X number of years you could elect to transfer your GI bill benefits to your spouse I almost imediatley thought about the idea of how now it is has become a given that a spouse can get half your retirement payment in a divorce because it's "community property" that it would not be too long before some spouse would try to go after you ed. benefits, claiming they are some sort of "community property" as well.

Anyone else feel this way??

For a lot of years spouses EX or otherwise had no claim on a members retirement pay.

NEVER SAY NEVER

Well here's a thoroughly complicated mess, but I'll run it by y'all.

I signed up and paid in my share for the previous one.

I used about $1200 in getting my IFR rating (for anyone who doesn't know, you couldn't use it AT ALL for flight training until you'd gotten the private pilot on your own dime, and then you could only use it to get reimbursement for 60% of actual flight time with an instructor or spent solo building flight hours needed before the FAA checkride for ratings above privatye pilot --no ground school, no materials, no nothing else).

A little over two years later, after an honorable discharge and an accident that had me out of things for a year and left me without my previous livelihood, I tried to use it for school and was told I could not because I was not eligible. No one who already has any degree is allowed to use it for anything other than 60% of flight time in pursuit of ratings over private pilot.

I could not finance courses myself at the time.

Last fall I started taking courses for a master's degree, using some new student loan I found out I can get, and my savings. When I started the applications I was told that I had in fact been eligible to use the previous Bill at the time I had asked, and that anyone can use it for a further degree of a higher level than any degree already held.

However NOW I am NOT eligible, because it has been more than ten years. The fact that I was turned away erroneously well before that time limit doesn't make any difference.

My savings run out next month. I am already at the max possible student loan. I need things I had no idea were necessary for university coursework nowadays --a wireless capable laptop. enough extra money to pay for storage for my belongings and travel to and lodging at some other place for an unpaid "internship" that will fill one entire term. And an entire extra term's tuition as the university does not allow graduation after a paid for term has ended, so you are forced to buy your right to graduation with another term's tuition and fees though your dissertation will be overwith long before the term is. IE the two year program becomes something like a 2 1/2 year program with a commensuate increase in money needed.

I also need things I knew I'd need but had no idea that a maxed out student loan would not pay for --textbooks. Tuition and fees are so high the loan only took care of them the first year.

so now I hear that these politicians got through a new Bill in this election year and from what I have so far heard there have been a lot of needed changes made...but it only allplies to the political buzzword group of AD and veterans...those AD after 9-11. Y'all know there is not the sightest reason to put that particular limit on who it applies to, and that it is quite clearly a nice political football meant to create a lot of nice hay for the pols...a dispicable thing but at least some of us are getting some of what we deserve so I try to look at it that way.

But my question is...what about the rest of us? There are certainly military personnel who were discharged prior to 9-11 but less than 10 years ago who would benefit form the new Bill, why are they being excluded? And what of the rest of us who were wrongfully denied the use of it even at its pitiful previous level? I've been living on 160 a month for everything but rent and utilities, in a spider and mold infested room in a bizarre building ten feet from a railroad track for the past year...and am frankly dispairing of finding anything else affordable for the next year as the building changed hands and the new guy is kicking everyone out at lease's end.

What about us? Anyone have the slightest ray of good news or hope for any of us?

I think this is a bad idea. I was told online school is the way to go, but now I am going to be punished because I go to an online school and not a ground college. I still have to pay rent, food, supplies, just like one does for a ground college. And I payed for the MGIBill and the kicker. Is that going to be taken away from me now?

The idea of transfering benefits to dependents was passed years ago. The authority to transfer these benefits to dependants was handed to the individual service chiefs. The only service which saw fit to do anything with it was the Army and I believe they canceled the program. I didn't use my educational benefits based on the first bill because I thought I was going to be able to use it for my son's education, what a fool I was.

Now we have the new GI bill, with the same benefit that has been reneged before. I hope for the sake of those who are eligible that this benefit is honored. I just wouldn't count on it when making plans for your childrens education.

What a slap in the face and injustice it is that we pre 9/11 vets, retirees and their families get left behind.

I retired after 27 years in the Navy and am working 40 hours a week to put my son through college. What a recruiting tool it would be if my son where walking around campus talking about the Navy putting him through college because his dad served in the military. The only benefit my son see's is a my retired pay and crippled medical benefits - He has no desire to join the military after graduation from college.

The US Army had a policy where to select one option say loan repayment you needed to opt out of all others. The GI Bill being one of them. I fall into that category. As such I did not qualify for the old GI Bill. Do I qualify for the new ones if I meet the service requirement. Does this new bill override the opt out?

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I guess now you may know how us VEAP era veterans feel. I also was in the Navy, for 22 years and retired in 01. (pre-9/11)

For those that do not know VEAP was the only thing there was when I joined in 79 it was not a very good program it only doubled your money, you could not use it until you got out and they were pretty restrictive about what you could use it for.

For these reasons a lot of us chose not to sign up for it. After the Montgomery GI came into existance official Navy policy was that we could not sign up for it, despite the fact that we were still on active duty and willing to pay into it.

We had VEAP and that was all.

Before anyone brings it up yes we had that one "last chance" to sign up for VEAP around 87 or so. Understand this though, it was just that, a last chance to sign up for VEAP nothing more, the Navies policy at the time clearly stated in message traffic was that we would "never be eligible for the Montgomery GI bill" So I and others did not sign up. A year or two later after we could no longer sign up they then came out and said that VEAP people THAT HAD ACCOUNTS could get the Montgomery GI bill. Even though I was still on active duty and may have been willing to pay, "sorry not for you"

I find it some what ironic that had I chose to retire in 05 instead of 01 I would be eligible for this new GI bill having never been eligible for the older one. Unless of course they would have decided to again screw us "non-veapers"

Like ETCPJ, I was a "non-VEAPer" as well. What a mess that was!

Now I get down to retirement, and miss out again because I missed the 90 day requirement by just a few days.

I'm not complaining, mind you, my point is this, Years ago, when my Dad was in (50's - 70's), and when I first joined ('81), benefits were pretty simple - retire, go to school, retire, get medical, retire, get dental, retire, get buried.

Patriotism and those promises, NOT the pay, were why most of us volunteered; but social welfare, illegal immigration, and corruption have taken over.

Only now, when it is a highly contested election cycle and our services are struggling to get and KEEP good, dedicated, and honorable patriots, does Congress and the President do a little something.

And mark my words, after the election, it will be business as usual and new bills will be introduced to reverse this benefit and to continue migrating what's left of our benefits to those dependent on the government - and who generally live better than I do!

My solution- continue to be a political activist, exposing the truth, and encourage honest, hardworking, overtaxed American Citizens to parti****te in the process and to honor these promises.