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RE: http://military.com/money-for-school/gi-bill/pos...erability-fact-sheet

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I retired on 31 Dec 08 after servicing 26 years. I personnally think this is unfair to us who have already served on AD post 9/11. All types of VA GI Bills should be eligible for transfer to family members. I should not be punished for retiring prior to 1 Aug 09. I hope our representatives see this and make all transferable.

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Originally posted by MrRedhat:
I retired on 31 Dec 08 after servicing 26 years. I personnally think this is unfair to us who have already served on AD post 9/11. All types of VA GI Bills should be eligible for transfer to family members. I should not be punished for retiring prior to 1 Aug 09. I hope our representatives see this and make all transferable.

I agree that EVERYONE needs to write their congress representatives about this.

I have a friend who's DH is serving Active, just like mine, and he has 8 yrs in so far. He wants to transfer his GI bill to her so that she can go to school and finish. Does anyone know where, and for that matter, WHO, needs to fill out the paperwork for her to do that? He's deploying in July and needs to get this taken care of ASAP. Thanks everyone!!!

This is my first post and so far I have read a whole bunch of great info. But I would like to submit an inquiry:
I am currently an active duty SFC with 14 years of service and INDEF. My spouse is prior service, she served for seven years and ETSed in 2003. She is looking at attending a university full time for a nursing degree. Both she and I have contributed our $1200. And we have not used any of our GI Bill. Could we possibly double dip the system? Can she use her GI Bill as a veteran and use my GI Bill as a spouse for possibly a total of six years of schooling?

Thank you!

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Originally posted by army_wife_and_rockin:
I have a friend who's DH is serving Active, just like mine, and he has 8 yrs in so far. He wants to transfer his GI bill to her so that she can go to school and finish. Does anyone know where, and for that matter, WHO, needs to fill out the paperwork for her to do that? He's deploying in July and needs to get this taken care of ASAP. Thanks everyone!!!

Dept. of Defense has not published the rules nor let solders start applying for the transferability to dependents program. You have to wait. Your husband will need to see his Career Counselor or Admin folks to check to see how to do the paperwork. And people deployed to areas around the world will still be able to do this paperwork. The Career Counselors and Admin folks also deploy with the units.

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Originally posted by ralfrod19D:
This is my first post and so far I have read a whole bunch of great info. But I would like to submit an inquiry:
I am currently an active duty SFC with 14 years of service and INDEF. My spouse is prior service, she served for seven years and ETSed in 2003. She is looking at attending a university full time for a nursing degree. Both she and I have contributed our $1200. And we have not used any of our GI Bill. Could we possibly double dip the system? Can she use her GI Bill as a veteran and use my GI Bill as a spouse for possibly a total of six years of schooling?

Thank you!

Yes you/she can double dip but the MAXIMUM will be 48 months, Her 36 plus 12 of yours - you could transfer all 36 of yours to her, but she would only be able to use 12. But that is more than enough for a BS in Nursing. Alot of people do the BS in Nursing just using their 36 months of benefits.

MrRedhat makes a great point. I would like to see transferability open up for disabled vets to take care of their families and then open it up for all vetrans. I imagine cost is a concern--perhaps an approach phasing transferability in would be more palatable.

This is total garbage! There shouldn't even be a NEED to publish eligibility rules...ALL benefits should be transferable. Our veteran's should not be forgotten just because they retired prior to an arbitrary cut off date. If they want to disallow the BAH entitlement that is one thing, but to deny an entire generation the benefit of transferring already earned and paid for education benefits to the future leaders of America, than they have sorely missed the mark. Notice they conveniently left enough loopholes to allow EVERYONE on active duty to slip under the umbrella, but left the rest of our servicemembers holding the (empty) bag.

I retired from the U.S. Air Force on 1 AUG 2006 after 24 years of service. Under these new rules for the Post 9/11 GI Bill, I cannot transfer this benefit to my family. I did contact my congressman. I am still waiting for an answer.

MSgt Jeffrey F. Steele RET

I retired on 31 Jan 09 after 24 years in the Guard. 2 Deployments. Does this mean I am unable to transfer this eligibilty to my children?

So, it looks like the hundreds/thousands of members with 'orders in hand' for 31 Jul 09 are completely at a loss on transferrability...
Hopefully the rules will change before my child starts college.

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Originally posted by 5455324:
I retired on 31 Jan 09 after 24 years in the Guard. 2 Deployments. Does this mean I am unable to transfer this eligibilty to my children?

Under the current law, yes. sorry.

Why is there a time limit on access to benefits as well as the 36 month limit? It seems odd that both exist.

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Originally posted by 8863976:
Why is there a time limit on access to benefits as well as the 36 month limit? It seems odd that both exist.

The 36 months is because most 4 year degrees have been offered by university/colleges as 9 months of school over a 4 year period 9 x 4 = 36.

The 10 years is a budget management tool. They had to estimate how many GIs would attend college and budget money each year for that many GIs.

Whatever the VA and the powers that be, decides to offer vets who qualify for the GI Bill, as far as including family members, is a plus and should be used with gusto. At least some "trickle down" from the billions being thrown around would go to good purpose. Now the next step is to include vets who have gone beyond the 10-year limit who want to go back to school and use the rest of their allotment.

You get what you paid for. If you paid $1200 for Chapt 30, then that's what you should get and expect nothing more. Transferability? The AF tried that a few years back and there was not a big enough response to continue it. I cannot believe that today's military is looking for handouts and freebies. Once you ETS, you are a civilian. Go get a job, work for a living, use your MGIB but beyond that, you've got pay like anyone else. When you take off those stripes, you're just average Joe looking for work. Almost 90% of today's students go to school on Federal Stafford loans and so will most of you because the MGIB doesn't cover it all, unless you want to go a community college or state school where it takes an average of 6-8 years to complete an associates degree and 10-12 years to complete a BS degree. Be happy with whatever extra the VA throws your way. Its going to be more than you signed up for anyway. BTW- the VA began accepting applications for Chapt 33 on May 1st.

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Originally posted by tomynoks:
You get what you paid for. If you paid $1200 for Chapt 30, then that's what you should get and expect nothing more. Transferability? The AF tried that a few years back and there was not a big enough response to continue it. I cannot believe that today's military is looking for handouts and freebies. Once you ETS, you are a civilian. Go get a job, work for a living, use your MGIB but beyond that, you've got pay like anyone else. When you take off those stripes, you're just average Joe looking for work. Almost 90% of today's students go to school on Federal Stafford loans and so will most of you because the MGIB doesn't cover it all, unless you want to go a community college or state school where it takes an average of 6-8 years to complete an associates degree and 10-12 years to complete a BS degree. Be happy with whatever extra the VA throws your way. Its going to be more than you signed up for anyway. BTW- the VA began accepting applications for Chapt 33 on May 1st.

Excuse me but I see most Veterans completing their BS degree in 36 months as they are attending college full time and working part time. I do see some who work full time and working on their education part time take the 6 to 8 years but that is more the exception than the norm.

On the GI Bill:
When a Soldier opted to start the MGI Bill, THAT was a sweet deal (especially if they got the college fund to enhance it). As the years pass by and that Soldier becomes a retiree, the chance of them using the GI Bill is very slight. Most Retirees must continue to have an income of some sort to feed the family (generally teens who eat cardboard when the cupboard is bare). Thus, the majority of retirees are not going to be able to use much of their GI Bill. I believe that those retirees with the MGI Bill should be able to transfer those funds to their siblings who also endured much of their parents’ deployments and hardships. Here is a great opportunity for the Army to show the retirees how much they appreciated their families’ struggles as well as the Soldier’s dedication to our great country!

Tell congress and everyone else to STOP using these interchangeably:
Veteran – is a Soldier that served during the time of war. (Length requirements vary). A Veteran is NOT a retiree…The veteran might have only served 30 days and be qualified
to be called a VET…
Retiree – is a Soldier that served 20 years or more and honorably resigned. MOST retirees are Veterans that have served during the time of war.

Disabled Veteran – a Soldier who was injured while they served and the injury was linked to a combat campaign.
Disabled Soldier –a Soldier who has been declared unable to continue service due to injury that is linked to military causes AND they receive compensation rather than a pension.
Disabled Retiree – a Soldier who has been declared unable to continue service due to injury that Is linked to military causes, AND the Soldier receives a permanent pension from the Army for those disabilities.


In General:
Military Retirement should not be allowed to be taxed by states – it is a FEDERAL income that was not earned while in their state and thus should be exempt from any state taxing it. Not just those states that do not have state income tax plus the 12 states that currently do not tax the Military retirements.

I agree with almost all of what you said with the EXCEPTION of your definition of what a Veteran is. You do not have to serve in a time of war to be a Veteran. I know, I is one. Your profile says nothing of your military experience. Are you one of us or are you one of the many that likes to talk the talk but has never walked the walked.

A Veteran is ANY PERSON WHO HAS SERVED IN ANY BRANCH OF THE MILITARY.

MSG, USA (Ret.) 24+ years.

I am a 22+ MSG fixing to retire.
I base my definition of Veteran off several dictionary definitions of the word, however, there are just as many other dictionaries that state that any member of the Armed Forces is a Veteran -
I agree with the different term as it provides clarity to many issues that lump all Vets and retirees together...With them separated, the fields are more narrow...Many US Citizens are "Vets" in that they served in the Military; not so many have retired from their branch of service.
I believe whole-heartedly that this separation of the term VETERAN must be established...There IS a difference, but often the word is used interchangeably...
MANY of the VA's eligibility requirements along with the preferential hiring and other benefits for "Veterans" are based off periods of time that Congress has determined were WAR...Thus, the connection...
With issues like the GI Bill...The loosely used term of VET (the meaning of everyone who served) makes Congress cringe...but if we were to ask them solely to allow the retirees to be able to transfer - THAT number is less than 5% of all those personnel that HAVE served...

I retire 29 July 2009 after 23 years! The story of my career.

Is this Jeff Steele that was a dental assistant?

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Originally posted by DragonLady9MXG:
I retired from the U.S. Air Force on 1 AUG 2006 after 24 years of service. Under these new rules for the Post 9/11 GI Bill, I cannot transfer this benefit to my family. I did contact my congressman. I am still waiting for an answer.

MSgt Jeffrey F. Steele RET

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Originally posted by MrRedhat:
I retired on 31 Dec 08 after servicing 26 years. I personnally think this is unfair to us who have already served on AD post 9/11. All types of VA GI Bills should be eligible for transfer to family members. I should not be punished for retiring prior to 1 Aug 09. I hope our representatives see this and make all transferable.

I agree that EVERYONE needs to write their congress representatives about this.

I agree ... my husband and I both deployed for 9/11 and to Iraq ... then because we both retired in 2008 with over 20 yrs we aren't eligible nor can we transfer eligibility to our children who are starting college

Hi I retiered on May 1, 2009 and i want to transfer my benefit to my wife from the Post 911 Bill you think that will be possible?

Ritered SFC Henry L Rodriguez
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No, It is not possible as has all ready been said in earlier postings. The authority under the law was assigned to Dept. of Defense to allow transfering of benefits to dependents by solders ON ACTIVE DUTY AS OF 1 AUGUST 2009.

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Originally posted by hrodri1867:
Hi I retiered on May 1, 2009 and i want to transfer my benefit to my wife from the Post 911 Bill you think that will be possible?

Ritered SFC Henry L Rodriguez
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Originally posted by TDHowell:
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Originally posted by xman69:
I retire 29 July 2009 after 23 years! The story of my career.

xman69 - If you want to transfer benefits to your dependents - you could ask to move your retirement date to 1 Sept 09. Then you probably would be eligible. I know of one COL. who all ready did this.

My official retirement date is July 1 although I am currently on terminal leave. This includes having sold back twenty days of leave. I could have easily kept those twenty days, started my terminal leave ten days later and held on for an Aug 1 retirement date had I known that would be the cut off date. Any chance they will allow an appeal process for the transferability.