What states have drilling Naval Guards or Naval Militias besides NJ, NY, and Ohio? I just received something about Texas

http://www.txsg.state.tx.us/locations/units/units.aspx?regid=mar

Any others out there? What happened with Puerto Rico and California?

Take a look at the sticky topic at the top of this board...

Thx. I forgot about Alaska and that SC was starting up. Are any of those Naval Guards/Militias doing anything or do they only exist on paper?

Over the years I have heard that California, Wisconsin, Puerto Rico, Illinois and others were starting, but none ever seemed to get off the paper?

Alaska does a few things -- at least enough to get mentioned in the state military department annual report. SC doesn't seem to have really gotten off the ground as far as I've been able to determine via the internet.

I had high hopes for SC. Was done there for ADT in 2006 and spoke with their RADM. Last night I sent him an email, but the address was deactivated so I have no way of finding out how they are doing.

NJ is status quo, but dwindling membership.

Georgia law authorizes a Naval Militia but we do not have one. Not too keen on the issue, so what what would be the main difference between the state Naval Militia and the Coast Guard Auxiliary besides one being federal and the other being state?

Also, what is the difference between the federal Naval Militia and the Coast Guard?

I think there are still quite a few states that authorize NMs, but don't have them, just like almost all authorize SDFs but only about half actually have them.

Main dif between NM and CG Aux is that a NM would be a state military force just like an SDF and could potentially be used for law enforcement and other armed homeland security missions. All CG Aux can do is observe and report.

The more critical point is the difference between a NM and marine units that exist in most states in association with the state police, state game and fish agency, state boating agency (where they have them separate from game and fish), local police harbor patrol units, etc. That is where I begin to question the need for a NM. There just doesn't seem to be quite as big a need for them, though I certainly wouldn't oppose one from starting up.

Keep in mind that NMs began as the equivalent of the Naval Reserve and most members trained to serve on Navy ships and only incidentally perform duties for the state. Once they started an actual Navy Reserve almost all NMs were disbanded as being unnecessary.

Dif between NM and CG --- As you might guess, the CG is mostly found along the coast. In the interior lakes and rivers there are CG units, but they focus more on navigation work rather than SAR or law enforcement. A NM in the interior wouldn't really be in competition with CG. Along the coasts, a NM could certainly supplement what the CG is supposed to be doing.

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Originally posted by RiverAux:
Main dif between NM and CG Aux is that a NM would be a state military force just like an SDF and could potentially be used for law enforcement and other armed homeland security missions. All CG Aux can do is observe and report.

I agree, except that AUX does do SAR and boater education.

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Originally posted by RiverAux:
The more critical point is the difference between a NM and marine units that exist in most states in association with the state police, state game and fish agency, state boating agency (where they have them separate from game and fish), local police harbor patrol units, etc. That is where I begin to question the need for a NM. There just doesn't seem to be quite as big a need for them, though I certainly wouldn't oppose one from starting up.

Other good thing about NM, is that it is a pool of federally trained mbrs you can tap into and not pay for until you compel state service. They can work afloat and ashore and are not limited to waterborne missions. Heck, ours has assisted with a state marathon the past 6 years.

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Originally posted by RiverAux:
Dif between NM and CG --- As you might guess, the CG is mostly found along the coast. In the interior lakes and rivers there are CG units, but they focus more on navigation work rather than SAR or law enforcement. A NM in the interior wouldn't really be in competition with CG. Along the coasts, a NM could certainly supplement what the CG is supposed to be doing.

In NY, the NYNM provides the CG with platforms (vessels and crews) for LE ops. Some of thier boats are nicer than the CG's. In NJ, the NM staffed the National Guard EOC/JOC for 9 months post-911 to free up NG for other work.

Although NMs have not caught on, they could be the difference in a disaster.

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Other good thing about NM, is that it is a pool of federally trained mbrs you can tap into and not pay for until you compel state service.

Not necessarily. Not all NMs restrict membership to drilling Navy, Marine, and Coast Guard reservists. There is no requirement that any NM do so. However, some have chosen to do so on the false hope that it will result in them getting some federal surplus which is only available to NMs with 95%+ members who are drilling federal reservists.