I have been on another board(a military wife's support group). (I am a female AF vet Hon Discharged 2.5 years ago so I've lived the life and had it scared into me that you don't mess with the military), but most of these ladies have never served. There is controversy over the fact that "sexy photos" sent to their husbands deployed overseas of even themselves would be considered porn and might get their husbands an Article 15. And I was trying to explain that paperwork of any sort is a bad thing but one woman retorted that if it would get her husband out faster she would send hundreds and it didn't matter because he would be able to get a good job regardless of his type of discharge. She also stated that she knew of someone who had two DUI's and got an Honorable discharge. so here's my question, does anything less than an Honorable discharge still allow someone to get a job on the outside. Or am I just military brainwashed that people can still get jobs at places like McDonalds(who we know supposedly won't hire anyone with a federal conviction) or better.

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To get the worse discharges you need to have a court marshal. You can get jobs with General Discharges. Court Marshals fit in two categories - Criminal and Military Conduct. Criminal is still criminal and hurts future employment opportunities. Military may hurt somewhere.

I do not know about the pictures, but I do know that they might consider what is worse than discharge - reduction in rank, loss of pay, a stay the brig.

They are probably not going to court marshal over racy pictures. But they could do Administration punishment - Capt's mass in the Navy - over it and punish them. They really do not want to get their spouse in trouble over some hot pics.

I would love to think that your nature of discharge would affect your employment, but that is really not the case.

I think back in the time when military service was required, and before they burned draft cards, that employers did care if you served ( since every male had too ) and if you were discharged honorably.

but unless you are going for a job with the federal government, i don't think employers really care ( or would be able to verify ) if you had an less then honorable discharge.

I know most job applications ask about military service, but honestly do you think someone who was thrown out of the military would have the honor to check yes i was in the military on a job application?

I mean it takes a felony to get a court marshall. A DUI is not going to do it.. several DUI's is not going to do it. Though we are at war and bad conduct in a war zone is punished a bit harsher then when I was in during peacetime.

The bottom line is that if they were court marshalled, it would be harder to hid, that would come out with a simple criminal background check. But a discharge for other then honorable conditions would not. There are people in politics that lie about their service and they get away with it for a long time.

I was discharged from the military with a BCD for writing bad checks and i never got in trouble before in the military. i'm now a Registered Nurse ini the state of Florida. so now what. i make more now then i did in the military.

Until one day, it jumps up and bites you in the posterior.

There may be no recourse for you and the civil and criminal penalties for "perjury for the purpose of Personal Gain" may be substantial.

Sometimes, when there is still time, it is best to apply for a change than it is to do nothing. The price of essentially lying by withholding the truth on an application or Resume' has but one standard, not two. So whether you withheld pertinent information or lied makes a net difference of ZERO..

It may not affect you know, even years from now,,,but when you least expect it, for example, in your sweet retirement years, seems like the most opportune time for those bones perfectly stacked in the closet of life, hits a bump, causes the door to come unlocked and the bones to spill out, one of the absolute worst times for a successful person like you to then become essentially homeless..by that, I mean, when things are taken away and you have nothing left that is yours to keep, starting with integrity, then the roof over your head becomes a shelter, not a home

There was a reason you did what you did when you did it way back whenever, perhaps if it is possible, make your wrongs...right...cause KARMA !!! alwaya comes back full circle and will always GET YOU.

Eres Tu!
Freddy

Some one please help me out iam a military spouse of a Marine.

My husband is gotten court marshalled and refuses to tell me why he is stationed overseas and am in the states, do u know i if i have the right to know? if i do how could i found out what happend?
can some one please get back to me?

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do u know i if i have the right to know?

Not as a spouse, but most CMs are public record. Getting access while the SM is deployed could be very difficult. You might have to go through the public information act.

But, if you can't trust your husband to tell you the truth ...?

not trying to put my business out there but theres alot going on and he been lying to me about alot, and he gave me a bull story told me cuz of a DUI. i want to know the truth. what did.

Do you have contact with the spouse of his First Sergeant? That might be an avenue to find out what is going on, or even another spouse of a member of the unit. When people get in that type of trouble, most people in the unit are aware of the basic information.

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S e r g e a n t

Mac other than my late night spelling, do you have anything to add to the discussion?

I dont know who he works for how can i find out?

You should have contacts with his home unit and within the spouse community.

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You should have contacts with his home unit and within the spouse community.

Shortcut:

Call the CSM at his home base..they have access.

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Mac other than my late night spelling, do you have anything to add to the discussion?

Sure, Dave. The lady should contact the member's unit commander. The spouse of first sergeants are civilians and are not in the chain of command. If the troop is in the sand box chances his first sergeant's wife is, geography speaking, separated from the shirt, anyway.

Once, when I was a very young E-4 with about a year and half in, I was summonded to my commander's office. The major presented me with a letter he had recieved from my dear mom,
who had written expressing concern because she had not heard from me in twelve weeks. the commander also presented me with an azz-chewing that still rings in my ears. I was also instructed to submit a letter to him for his approval to be mailed to mom telling her how sorry I was for the lapse of a son's responsibility to show the love which I held for her and all other good and correct things with which I had been blessed. The letter had to be at least three hand-written pages and contain at least seventy words of three or more syllables.

Another good place to inquire about a family member would be the chaplain's office.

Gee, look at the time.

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Mac, thanks for providing this spouse with some sage advice.