Noticed the messages Re:1710, which reminded me: Anyone remember the B-model which had a midair with a P-3 near Hawaii(1971?), both made it back safely. Chains were wrapped around A/C and was flown to Marretta GA. for repairs. Saw pictures at E.City, it was gutted at an angle from nose to ramp, you could see thru to the ground! Never got the whole story...........

Now I wasn't there, but I heard that the 130 had it's belly ripped opened and they chained the belly in the inside and flew it back to the swamp. The P3 lost like 11 feet of it's wingtip. It too made it back to Hawaii and from there to Ca.

The C-130 was a BP bird. One of the crewmen (an AT and Nav) was at SF when I reported in Jan 75. I don't recall his name.

From Naval Aviation News, July 1972, p.5: an article on the P-3. Neither a mention of where the C-130 was from, nor who caused the mid-air.

http://www.history.navy.mil/nan/backissues/1970s/1972/jul72.pdf[/URL]

Naval Safety Center, line 20.

http://www.safetycenter.navy.mil/Aviation/aviationdata/...p3/mishapsummary.doc

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I was reading the stuff cgrscot posted, how about the collosion betweent the P3 and the tram wires in Pago Pago. The Navy has some pretty weird crashes...

I was in Pago Pago a couple years after the crash and I understand that the navy paid big to the citizens of Pago for the loss of life, and to rebuild the rainmaker

I've got a picture of her with the gash taken that day inflight. I got it from the CP Matt Ahearn. If I can figure out how to post it I will.

RetCoastieAirdale

I had just reported to San Fran Air after two years on Guam when that occured. I recall seeing the photo. The photo was of very good quality and the gash was huge. If I recall correctly both planes were involved in a search and one crossed into the other's assigned area????

From what I heard that was correct. The P-3 lost 11 foot of its wing and the c-130 had it's belly ripped open. They landed and strapped it together and flew it back home to the swamp I believe. They used chain tiedowns to hold the plane together and I don't believe anyone in either plane was hurt. I also heard that they had to fly back on oxygen cause they needed to fly at altitude.

Bigmack,

That's how I recall it being related, too.

Thanks for the replies, I posted this because I've been so curious over the years in regards to this incident. Saw similar sharp pictures of the C-130 in E.City. I was their during the 60's-70's and always wished I could've heard the factual chain of events. All I knew was a P-3 & CG C-130 made contact on a grid pattern search. I was amazed at the damge and both were still flyable. Anyone know of a investigative report on the incident? Thanks......

I'm relatively sure one was made, you could check the CG archives to find it. I believe there is a CG historian too that might be a good reference. How to reach them.. I have no clue... I got my info from word of mouth when I was at Barbers

OK,
I've got the picture. I can send it directly to you guys or someone can tell me how to post it here.

stanleynielsen2003@yahoo.com

I think I have it;[URL= ][IMG]

Fantastic Photo. Thanks for posting it.

RetCoastieDale: Thanks for the picture, I only saw a static on the ground picture from Barbers.
Anyone remember the A/C serial? Tried the archives as bigmack mentioned, no help. Thanks.

Crazy picture! I found the serial # on the CG aircraft list that cgrscot posted the other day (thanks for that by the way, it's pretty interesting) according to that, the # was 1348 and the collison happend in 68. I've heard that Hercs are pretty tough planes, (I'm a rotor head myself) but after seeing that picture, it took some real guts to fly it back to E-city!!

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Originally posted by Dasgoat:
Crazy picture! I found the serial # on the CG aircraft list that cgrscot posted the other day (thanks for that by the way, it's pretty interesting) according to that, the # was 1348 and the collison happend in 68. I've heard that Hercs are pretty tough planes, (I'm a rotor head myself) but after seeing that picture, it took some real guts to fly it back to E-city!!

From the Navy listing above:

20. 12 DEC 71 MIDWAY MID-AIR WITH C-130 (CLASS B) NO 0 VP-4 AIRCREW ERROR

OK, now I'm confused....or ignorant, probably the latter. This was what I saw on the A/C list on the other thread...

1348 c/n 282-3650. Ordered on USAF contract as 61-2083. Some sources claim that
this plane was not accepted by USCG since was surplus to needs and taken on by USAF.
Other sources claim that this plane was indeed in the USCG inventory.
I have a reference from a USCG member who flew on this plane. It was
involved in a midair collision in 1968 with a Navy P-3 off Barbers Point, Hawaii but
landed safely.
Were there 2 seperate collisions? Or am I just not paying attention? Sorry for the confusion, I'm pretty slow sometimes. Too much of this can lead to this, which, in turn usually leads to someone doing this to me....

The good Dr. (Ph.D. actually) has some of the facts wrong. The midair was in 1972 off Midway, not Hawaii (although it is near the nortwestern end of the Hawaiian archipelego). Whether it was the 1348 or not I don't know. The good Dr. may have that wrong, too, or we may have it wrong here.

I noticed the link to Naval Aviation News didn't work, so I'll try it again. But the article doesn't mention more than "a Coast Guard C-130."

http://www.history.navy.mil/nan/backissues/1970s/1972/jul72.pdf

Ahhhh, now it makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up. After seeing the pics of the P-3 in the Navy article, it amazes me even more that both aircraft were flown so far after the collision. Granted, between the chains on the C-130, and the "end cap" on the wing of the P-3, they obviously made it to their respective destinations. I don't think it would even be dreamed of to do that in this day and age, but they probably wouldn't need to. Tough birds nonetheless. Someone told me today about a C-130 in Alaska that had a prop come off in flight and "roll" up and over the top of the A/C, chewing things up as it went, and they also made it back safely. Any truth to that or was he telling a fish story??