Do the 60's deploy on cutters, and if so how long is the average deployment? This isn't an avoiding the sea post- i love being on the water

No they don't deploy to cutters. So if you want to be deployed to a cutter try the HH-65.

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Originally posted by tankkllr:
No they don't deploy to cutters. So if you want to be deployed to a cutter try the HH-65.

They don't deploy....yet!!!

Really? I guess all of those 60's that deployed with the Campbell when I was on it was a figmant of my imagination.

GUNS

Looking at your profile Kodiak5bears, it looks like you left the Campbell in 1998. Is that right?

I do know a few HH-60 crews do stay current in CG shipboard landings. I do know there has not been an HH60 deployment to a CG cutter since at least 1999. I do know that they have had one HH-60 deployment to a Navy ship during the Vieques protests. I do know that prior to the HH-65 the HH-52 was the aircraft of choice for landing on cutters. I do know the HH-60 cannot even land on the majority of Coast Guard cutters yet alone deploy with them.

But I do not know for a fact what they did with the HH-60 prior to 1999 but my understanding is they have never "deployed" on a cutter. So it is interesting to hear that they did. How long were they deployed on the Campbell when you were there?

So, HH-60s may have deployed in the past but the do not currently. Thus, my comment stands. they don't deploy to cutters. They may in the future but I am betting I will be retired before that happens.

Wait a second. The Campbell is a 270 isn't it? Unless the certification classes changed bewteeen 1998 and 1999, an HH-60 couldn't deploy on it since it doesn't have the proper maintenance facilities.

Now I am truly intrigued.

The Campbell is a "B" class 270, 901 - 904 are "A" class. They may not deploy anymore since the "crash on deck" on the Campbell, I believe in 1999. Just wanted to let people know it did at one time.

GUNS

That crash on deck of the Campbell was an HH-65. I don't mean to sound patronizing here but it will cut through some possible confusion. You do realize the HH-60 is the very big white helicopter, the HH-65 is the small orange one, and the MH-68 is the small white one. Additionally during that time, there was the MH-90 which was also a bigger white aircraft but had no tail rotor. Might that be the aircraft that deployed with you?

the classes I wrote about were not class a or b. I was referring to the classes in the ship helo manual. 1 meaning an aircraft could land, have support such as refuel etc., and have maintenance facilities for that aircraft.

The 270 foot cutter 2A I believe for the HH-60J. Meaning they can land, but have limited service available and no maintenance area available.

Tank,

Back in the late 90's I was on a 378' off of Panama. We were passed by a 270' with a 60 on deck. It was a test and also the only shipboard deployment of a 60 that I know about.

That may soon change though. Don't forget, the Healy was designed to accept either 65's or 60's. Also, the National Security Cutter can accept either. There has been a lot of attention up north lately.

here's a peek at the past, tankkllr:

Do you think they secure all the forward pointing radars or is that guy being fried in the picture. I see he is covering his nuts!

What a sweet looking aircraft!

Don

LSO's signalling to set it down. And the radar would be secured during the approach, otherwise it would play heck with the video recorder.

don posts

Thank you for the info R BO. Hope life if treating you well.

As for deploying H-60s on the Healy or the NSC I won't hold my breath. I just worked with the ESD in Seattle and they were wanting to approve an ADF being installed on the Healy to ensure the civilian crews have a way to find it when they are deployed. So they don't plan to get CG aircraft anytime soon. Besides, can you imagine the look on H-60 crews everywhere if they decided to stand up a new POPDIV with H-60s.

Old school swimmer, that could be the same picture today. Those are nice pictures by the way. Like I said, Some units maintain shipboard landing currency in HH-60s but I am wondering about deployments of HH-60s not landings. R-BOs post was the first I had heard of any H-60 deployment. Kodiak5bears said "all of those 60s that deployed with the Campbell" making it sound like a common thing not a test, so it peaked my interest and was hoping to find out more.

There were deployments to 270s during the 90s by H60s in D7. It did not last long due to many reasonable limitations on the ship.

The unreasonable Capt. that allegedly started it to save per diem money in the Bahamas, possibly transfered and then the horror stopped; at least that is the story told to me by the Clearwater "survivors." Oldswimmer, help!

Possible ain't always practical, or safe.

Thanks Don,
I remember those hand signals, but I still feel as an extra percaution he's in the act of covering the family jewels.
I walked in front of many dopplers and with the help of my wife produced twins over 50% of the time.
Peace,
Dick

Between 1993 and 1994 there were a couple of Clearwater crews who were sent to Key West to do shipboard work with the 270's ported there.They were to determine if HH-60's could do the Opbat mission at sea instead of at deployment sites in Nassau and Great Inagua.There wasn't much wiggle room on that deck with an HH-60.We stayed at and flew out of Boca Chica.The Captain in question was Capt.Estes

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You do realize the HH-60 is the very big white helicopter, the HH-65 is the small orange one, and the MH-68 is the small white one.

Look TANK I AM TELLING YOU THAT DURING MY TIME ON THE CAMPBELL AN HH-60 DEPLOYED MORE THAN ONE TIME, I EVEN WENT UP FOR A MORAL RIDE! I have also been up in a Pelican when I was at Station Provincetown, MA. So, I THINK I KNOW WHAT A FREAKIN CG HELICOPTER LOOKS LIKE! As for "all of those 60's" what I ment was not every patrol but many patrols.

Now, I don't remember anyone saying it was a test to see if a 270 could do it, as I was privy to much info (tale of a '270 GM' working CIC), but it may have been. Heck, as I sit here reminencing, I remember having radio guard for a C130 (plane with 4 engines ) on the mid-watch, when another 270 down in the Carribean had a HH60 deployed with them up in the air and lost radio contact. So, being a deligent watch stander, I called the 270 and told them I could hear their HH60 and them, if they want I will take their HH60 guard until they get comms with them again. It kept me busy for about an hour with 2 a/c. Not to mention keeping me awake!

So, I guess from 95 - 98 you could say that on the "B" class 270's HH60s did deploy.

GUNS

Kodiak, I asked for clarification because you said "They[hh-60s] may not deploy anymore since the "crash on deck" on the Campbell, I believe in 1999."

As I noted, that was an HH-65 not an HH-60. Is it that far out of line for someone to think that if you thought the crash on deck was an HH-60 that perhaps you may have misidentified other aircraft? I have no doubt you know what a FREAKING CG HELICOPTER LOOKS LIKE. After all they do say Coast Guard on them. I was just checking to make sure you knew what certain types looked like. That is a bit harder and I can't count how many times I have seen/heard people misidentify aircraft swearing they were right. I have done it myself. Although I can pick out my own aircraft 9 out of 10 times. I wasn't trying to bust on you, I was simply trying to make sure we were on the same sheet of music. No hard feelings ok?

Like I said earlier, I was surprised to hear they had deployed on a regular basis as it was my impression they never did and was interested to hear more.

So back to my original question to you. How long were the deployed with you?