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“Communication with our customers was not what I would call adequate, at all,” he said.
The missed deadlines, and the inaccurate statements on progress made earlier by DFAS and VA officials, were blamed in part on a misunderstanding of data being supplied by Lockheed Martin, the contractor hired to review files and calculate payments". ___________________________________ What ever happened to the phrase "Accountability". Mr. Krushinski the "Acting Director?"...seems to place the bulk of the Blame on the Defense Contractor and automation problems. Mr. Krushinski's comments confirms in my mind why the Goverment relies so heavily on Contractors...They need somebody to blame for their incompetence! Meanwhile, the Contractors run laughing to the Bank...No problem, we'll just hire a few more folks to cover your incompetence. With a DoD budget crisis fast approaching, due to Congressional and Executive Branch squabbles, contracts will be suspended temporarily...and once resolved...heavy penalties will be paid to the contractors to resume work. What a Great System! |
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For Years Military & civ Have Set Dead Lines They Can,t Meet To Impress The Top.We Need To Get Real And Do The Job Correctly And ASAP.Damn The Cut Off.DO IT RIGHT AND GET IT DONE!
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an 1865 law repealed and using 1865 methods to fix it
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THE PREVIOUS PROJECT MANAGER (RETIRED OCT 31), is totally resposible & got out in time to escape scrutiny. Perhaps they should have processed the oldest veteran's retro pay first, to cut down on those of us who will die before this ever gets straightened out. Software bad?? How-in-hell do they expect temporary employees to get it right?? If this isn't just another kick in the veterans A__!! I'm totally disgusted Unfortunately the whole program, although well-intentioned, stunk because it was to much for the VA & got palmed off to DFAS, two bureaucratic dens of iniquity & contained the original legislation from our great congress and made as complicated as a congressional staffer could possibly concieve. Pile this on top of the lethargic and turtle-like pace of the DFAS & VA. I'll most likely be in purgatory waiting for instructions/permission/travel orders to proceed any farther when this is finally settled. Jeeez..
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STILL WAITING..
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No retro pay... slow retro pay, so what else is new. Who out there were gullible to think that the VA & DFAS would do what they reported. Have they ever been on time?
We all deserve a letter of apology from DFAS and a current accurate payment date. |
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Has anyone noticed that anytime there is a little pressure put on these high level officials, they jump ship. Mr Nicholson, Shine, and all of the mighty that don't want to go though a congressional investigation. The new Chief talks a good game, lets see how he performs. I believe in giving a man an opportunity to correct a problme.I had a friend that said this will be well into next year.I'm beginning to think he may be right. Thanks Mr Phillpott for your article on this matter.
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I'm a Vietnam vet and retiree, rated by the VA as 60% disabled upon my retirement in 1993, who feels he has already missed out on thousands of dollars in retirement pay because I was told by personnel types when I submitted my retirement packet that I would be allowed to finish 26 years of service but was subsequently cut off and retired at 25 years, 9 months instead.
Imagine my (further) irritation when I recently received a letter from the DA Human Resources Command advising me that I MAY be eligible for CRSC and all I have to do to see if I am is to submit a claim containing copies of my DD214, all VA-rating decisions, including the VA letter, actual VA rating decisions and VA code sheets, plus my medical records. I guess my question is: Between the DA and VA, aren't they supposed to ALREADY HAVE all of this information on me and my whole military career and medical history in their so-called databases (uh, like the VA one recently compromised for millions of us by a civilian contractor's inadequately protected computer system)? Hey, DA and VA, if you're going to offer and make promises about something like CRSC (which the Congress was absolutely correct to approve, and which is long overdue), why don't YOU determine if I'm eligible or not and pay me extra if I am and don't pay me extra if I'm not. I already put in my 25 years and 9 months serving my country all over the world, in peace and in war, and shouldn't have to do your work for you to determine whether I'm entitled to more and fairer compensation for that or not. This whole "program" is turning into a case of adding insult to injury for those of us who took the oath and loyally served under the Army motto of "This We'll Defend." |
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I believe in the old adage "believe it when you get it in your hand and then don't be to hasty to spend it."
To Chuck Fowler regarding the CRSC. Here is what happened to me a year ago when I "applied to see if I was eligible for CRSC". I was sent a DFAS retired pay statement showing me LOSING most of my AF retired pay WITH NO EXPLAINATION AS TO WHY. It took me 10 phone calls and a letter to the Director of DFAS to find out I was PLACED on CRSC and they "did not" want to "overpay me"??? I still have NOY been given back the money they took and that money SHORTED ME out of nearly $575 per month. Along with this, I have yet to receive an answer from the DFAS Director to my letter.(OVER ONE YEAR NOW) All I have been given verbally by phone is "you will get your money back, but NO date as to when". Anyone remember that IF YOU OWE MONEY TO THE GOVERNMENT, THEY WANT IT NOW!!; Yet when they owe you, try and get it. Sign me still waiting in KY. |
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Just another excuse to not give the veterans what they are owed for their sacrafices. Beauracratic mumbo jumbo doesn't cut it these days.
Of all escape mechanisms, Death is the most efficient. ~~ H.L. Mencken |
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You should start notifying the DFAS people that your attorney will be sending them notification of a tort cliam for unlawful taking of compensation. That could just be the spark to get them off their a** and take care of your problem. I would talk to a lawyer to see if you could get everything you are owed plus interest and penalties. Of all escape mechanisms, Death is the most efficient. ~~ H.L. Mencken |
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When will we get the letter that the acting director said he was going to mail out.
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SSG charles dawson im a vietnam vet im retired with 22.5 years in the army im 100% disable i become 100% in 2004 but the army didn't pay me till 2005 and when i ask i got no answer they also pay crdp witch is the same as my retirement so where is my retirement or CRDP no one know but what do do say it crdp and my retirement togeather how can that be if im 100% i should get the same as my retirement is. one more thing i had a house made for that is all handy cap and i out in for the 50 thousand dollars grant 4 years ago and thay tell me im not eligidle because i still have my legs they are no good i need my knees replace but i can't have them because im on oxygen and they tell that is why i haven't got it but a blind man can put in for it and get it why he still has his eye he should get too. so im just like to know if and when im going to get all my back pay and start getting all my pay that i should be getting. if you can find out i would sure like to know what i need to do you can't talk to any one because no one know what is going on.so thank you if you can help
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You don't understand the VA's mode of operation.
They use any excuse they can find to delay or avoid payment to a Veteran.
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CRSC has been mis-handled from day one. Fully qulifieds get turned down,,,NO EXPLINATION! This thing needs a blowtorch. Customers? Where in hell do we find these beaurocrats? Put an 03 (infantry-wounded-crsc-elegible) in charge, give him the abi to hire and fire...then get out of the way. Problem Solved. They're paying interest on missed payments, right? Once again, ripped-offd forgoten. It was a pleasure to serve this wonderful country, now just treat us with basic decency and transparency. S/F
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I knew it would come to this that we would wait again even longer. It is a down right shame to this entire nation, how we treat our veterans when it come to their pay. I have been waiting on this money as I retired in 2000. With all the appeal process, my final rating was 70%, which ended in 2005. It took all these years to get my complete rating, and now it is nearly 2008 and I wait again for back pay. Again, it is a shame, but when that check get in my hands, I will forgive them.
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Is this money just for retirees or for those who have service connected disabilities? I am so confused any more about what my benefits are and who to contact about them --I can't keep pulling my hair out.
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Please don't pull your hair out, as this is what the government wants you to do. If you are qualified for back pay, you should have got a letter or something by now. However, if you read the news, many vets did not get a letter by the deadline or payment. If you are not sure what you get, this number may help 1-800-827-1000. However, I just got some inside news that this money was held back to help with the war spending. In addition, many government jobs are about to be cut to scrape up money to pay for the current war. So we may not see these funds as long as President Bush is still in office. May God bless America.  |
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well ijust talk to young man,he told me the same thing that was told to me three month ago.why are we paying to have a compy to review files?when we can take that money and add more military and get the job over.i hope this is not what i fought for.so some one at the top make mistake and then leaVE.AND THEN NO ONES KNOW WHATS GOING ON.I FEEL SORRY FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ANSWERE THE PHONE WHEN WE
 CALL.WHY DON'T SOMEONE WHO CAN GET THE PROBLEM FIX ANSWERE ,AND TALK TO US.AND NOT LET THE PEOPLE TAKE THE BLAME FOR THEIR MISTAKE.  |
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Military.com Forums Sound Off! Tom Philpott Benefits Column - Sound Off! VA Retro Pay: A Deadline Missed
