RE: http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,145397,00.html

I have not been following this topic, but I DO know that Philippinos who fought with the US should most certainly receive generous pensions. The Philippino people certainly do not receive any other favors - i.e., why should they not receive preference on visas for immigrant farm labor and other type of visas over the whining Hispanics of various nationalities who have done NOTHING to earn or deserve a visa.

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Originally posted by chufow:
I have not been following this topic, but I DO know that Philippinos who fought with the US should most certainly receive generous pensions. The Philippino people certainly do not receive any other favors - i.e., why should they not receive preference on visas for immigrant farm labor and other type of visas over the whining Hispanics of various nationalities who have done NOTHING to earn or deserve a visa.

Iam a bit confused here. We are going to give benifits to people from another country and ignore our own veterna? The fillipinos fought with Gen MacCarther to free the phillipines, their own country. So we feel that we owe them? And now they want us out of the phillipines completely, but want our help to get rid of the insurgents there? Hmmm, sounds like a no brainer to me.

I naturally thought they were receiving the SAME benefits as our wartime vets as the PI's were controlled by the U.S. due to our presence since the SpanAm War of 1898. The Japanese were just as cruel to them as they were to all of their enemies, and it is Japan that should be footing the bill for these vets, but have heretofore rejected blame for those very actions, explaining to everyone who will listen that these actions were "...our way of war," and "it was war, after all, and this type of action is to be expected," and all of that blather...look at the Agent Orange issues, and how we are now taking the blame for using it against the VC and the NVA when its uses were to impede an invading force: THEM! The "Flips" used to be able to move freely between there and here and our Navy used to honor them by restricting Steward Duty to them on an exclusive status prior to integration of our military, MacArther was godlike, etc., and we were "kicked out" and they lost their sugar daddy--and then the volcano destroyed Clark Field, which they had eyed for decades for its emeneties: the "stealy boys" had that baby all scouted out as they had been burglarizing nightly there for decades. Subic was a treasure and we should have said "no" but we did not, so...The reason money goes so far is because they have none as there is no economy to speak of as their government cannot get out of first gear. They were so anxious to be "free" they thought "free" meant everything is free for the taking with no work, no jobs, no money is the consequence. This pension thing is not new--not everybody was a "freedom fighter," and the records are suspect, to say the least. But, ALL documented soldiers are and were compensated for their duty; this "issue" is like putting out a bushel of horses### at the side of the road with a FREE sign on it and you would be shocked at how quickly it would be gone. Time is almost up on these claims, however, and the "war widows" are beginning to realize their well is about to dry up. Anyway, Buyer is rightly upset at his peer as all the dems want is to have an issue rather than solve one, but time is running out on WW2 vets, its the survivors of these that want the benefits. Compare all this attention to the Agent Orange vets when that should be at the top of the list before all of us are dead and gone with all of the delays, see, HAAS v. NICHOLSON; the VA fights tooth-and-nail to deny these benefits and know that delay is the answer as the claims die with the vet. I'm rambling, now, time to go. ANYBODY that was a DOCUMENTED vet in the PI's SHOULD BE compensated and why should this be an issue 60 years later?

No oneshould be in-charge of any Veterans organization. That has not serverd in the military. To have a Anti-Military person in charge, is a slap in the face of all who have put their Country first.

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No oneshould be in-charge of any Veterans organization. That has not serverd in the military. To have a Anti-Military person in charge, is a slap in the face of all who have put their Country first.

Abso-frickin'-lutely!!!

As proud as he is of being an anti-war protestor, what are the odds that he actually called returning Vietnam veterans "babyburners" or "murderers" as they stepped off the plane? And now he chairs a veteran's organization and wants to give their money to foreign nationals.
Yeah boy, it's those wild and crazy Democrats, at it again. Trying to purchase votes with free stuff for minorities, again!

What's next for Filner maybe to compensate the ARVN, South Korens, might as well throw in the French.

who put this Filner guy in charge of Chairman House Veteran Affair Committee? And he is proud of the Jail time he did as a Vietnam War Protester, He need to drag this job....

Another shameful example of how veterans and US allied fighters are treated by politicians; and it's getting worse.

I have been trying to get my service connectionfor over 33 years and finally I got 70%and unemployable of 30% unemployety but that doesen't do anything for the 33 years which I wasn't able to recieve my service connection and be able to provide for my family as I should have been able to. I have had over 5000 jobs and once they found out I aws diagnosed with mental problems then I was fired and not allowed work to provide for my family. I think that this shoule be rectified.

Thank You for any and all assistance in this matter.


Charles N. Jenkins Sr.
USMC 2468447
C- File 26703989

Mr. Jenkins, if you were fired for being mentally unstable, and you can prove that, i.e., there were no other reasons given, you need to contact an attorney. That is discrimination, and if you are and were disabled, you should have been on Social Security Disability and you would prevail. You should immediately call the Social Security Office and file a claim; if you do not have enough credits, there is Federal benefits available through them that is just as good, even better as it covers medical---SSI; NEVER QUIT--EVER. 5000 jobs--that may be a record, and call Guiness to see if there is any money involved. Don't despair, it always gets worse before it gets better.

Christ, we're hearing the same complaints from the Republicans now we heard from the Democrats when they were not the majority. The majority will always attempt to ride roughshod over the minority. Now the shoe is on the so called other foot, we have the Republicans crying in their milk.

As someone earlier posted, this is a 60 year old problem so what in the hell has Congress done in those 60 years? Nothing obviously. Frankly, and again as someone mentioned in an earlier post, the losing nations should be footing some of the bill (if not all of it) for the coverage of veterans in all of the nations they devastated. They created the problems with their desire to go to war, they could afford that action, with losing, they can affort to help offset the cost of their actions. Frankly, I think we were too lenient with Germany, Japan and Italy after they lost the war. They should have been compelled to pay reparations after we rebuilt those countries and their economies were up and running. Instead, they not only cost us the lives of more than 250,000 American's but they disabled millions more with their war and left the American taxpayer to foot the entire bill. Instead, we have given those countries billions of dollars over the decades since the war. And we really haven't gotten much in the way of thanks from them for being so humane.

As for the Bill itself, I read it and cannot see where any American veterans will be getting the short end of the stick. The Bill appears to fund the money required for US veterans as well as the Phillepino

Sorry, my computer went haywire.

It appears the Bill covers the cost of both American and Phillepino veterans. So, I don't know where the problem is as it appears to resolve both issues. If I read it wrong, please correct me.

As for the canard about only veterans being involved in veteran's decisions, legislation, etc., cannot see where that is relevant. It is a matter of intelligence. Frankly, I've seen many veterans in positions of power during the past 40 years within the government and specifically the VA, and the battle for benefits still continues. VA funding needs to be a mandatory part of the budget process. As it now stands, the VA budget gets buried with nearly all of the other social programs funded by the government, so veterans get balanced off against other competing funding. VA funding needs to be a line item part of the budget process, it should stand alone and on its own merits.

In addition, we need to get rid of the Feres Doctrine so as veterans, we have the same Constitutional rights as any other citizen and of course now, noncitizens as well. Pretty sad when an illegal immigrant has more protection under the Constitution than a veteran.

S/F Gordon

I'm sitting here reading all the post and you all know we are all vets no mater what race, we were called upon and we served done our service to the best of our abilitys now its high time this government steps up and takes care of the issues we put before them after all we are the ones that put them in office.i dont care what branch of the service we served in we are all equal and should be given what we have coming as vets. how many of our elected officals have wore the uniform very few i would imagine, if you the elected are sitting there to draw the pay and retirement and not for the vets that have sacraficed for your freedom its high time you changed that train of thought. dito's to all my comrades welcome home from and old feeble viet nam vet.

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Iam a bit confused here. We are going to give benifits to people from another country and ignore our own veterna? The fillipinos fought with Gen MacCarther to free the phillipines, their own country. So we feel that we owe them? And now they want us out of the phillipines completely, but want our help to get rid of the insurgents there? Hmmm, sounds like a no brainer to me.

During WWII the Philippines was a US Territory just like Guam or Puerto Rico or the US Virgin Islands. Promises were made by the US Government which as usual went on deaf ears. These old men deserve it for their loyalty to the US during WWII and even now our government screws the Philippines. We grab their nurses to fill our shortages because Filipinos go to school and learn in English to this day. But when the Nurse or health worker wants to bring their parents here even for a visit the US Embassey gives them a hard time.

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who put this Filner guy in charge of Chairman House Veteran Affair Committee? And he is proud of the Jail time he did as a Vietnam War Protester, He need to drag this job....

How soon you guys forget how bad Rep Buyer was to Veterans benefits. He was trying to cut cut cut everything and anything. He is a goody goody guy claims he is a Vet but his actions as head of the House Veterans Committee showed otherwise.

I have been trying to get my service connectionfor over 33 years and finally I got 70%and unemployable of 30% unemployety but that doesen't do anything for the 33 years which I wasn't able to recieve my service connection and be able to provide for my family as I should have been able to. I have had over 5000 jobs and once they found out I aws diagnosed with mental problems then I was fired and not allowed work to provide for my family. I think that this shoule be rectified.

Thank You for any and all assistance in this matter.


Charles N. Jenkins Sr.
USMC 2468447
C- File 26703989

Mr Jenkins

Even though you received the benefit after all these years, if in fact you kept the claim going all that time you can appeal for an earlier retro date. Either get yourself a good appeals attorney or a good Veterans Service Organization.
Also you should be able to use the original VA claim as a claim for SSD talk to an attorney.
You may even have a CUE Case Clear and Unmistakeble error.

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Originally posted by ABNBILL1941:
who put this Filner guy in charge of Chairman House Veteran Affair Committee? And he is proud of the Jail time he did as a Vietnam War Protester, He need to drag this job....

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Nancy Pelosi, maybe??

Men if you think things are bad now just wait and see what the anti military HELL_ER_REY Clinton has in store for the Veterans of this country. It was her Bil Clinton who reduced our military to a bare bones unit. Had the United States been attacked by any rebel government we would not of had the resources to fend them off.
We veterans had better get off our duffers and vote these Clinton's, Nancy P's and all other of like kind out of office. It's time for a new veterans revolution.
David in Missouri

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Originally posted by ABNBILL1941:
who put this Filner guy in charge of Chairman House Veteran Affair Committee? And he is proud of the Jail time he did as a Vietnam War Protester, He need to drag this job....

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Nancy Pelosi, maybe??