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Originally posted by Weatherguesser:
Mr. Kinney, perhaps you could explain what role ANY Church has in the making of a Soldier?

I am quite serious in asking you this. Truly, I'd like to know.

(By the way? We already ARE a great nation.)

Only you could take a great story about heroes and somehow spin it negatively.You are trully sickening.Perhaps you should join the muslims.
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Originally posted by AGBrina:
Please Stop This!

Why do we need to belittle one generation in order to appreciate another? This generation of military is no greater or less than our generation; and our generation is/was just as good as the one that served before it.

Could there have been an American military unit greater than Washington's "Army" of 2-3,000 who stayed with him through the winter of 1776-7? Of course not! Those men could afford to fire no more than 2 volleys from their rifles/muskets per battle. The rest had to be done with bayonets and pikes (yes, pikes!). Yet they fought dozens of engagements that winter, besides Trenton and Princeton, against a British Army which numbered over 20,000! Yet, it was the British Army which had to retire to New York City! Wasn't that our greatest generation, then?

There is no such thing as a "Greatest Generation" pf Americans, except in the minds of those who fixate on the present and discount the past.

However, there are great leaders and then there are poor ones. And the outcome of a war depends greatly upon which kind of leader is in charge.

George Washington is without a peer in American history, and maybe in world history, for having done so much with so little.

Compare him to the leaders at the start of the Korean War: While at the same time that General Puller was leading the 1st Marine Division, carving its way through the Chinese toward the port of Wonsan, General MacArthur was overseeing the disintegration of the 8th Army as it abandoned its wounded and much of its equipment during its flight south past the capitol of Seoul. Then General Ridgway showed up and saved the U.S.Army from what may have been its greatest defeat in history. Same generation. Same war. Different outcomes.

The character of the men who served under Washington, Puller, MacArthur, and Ridgway reflected the character of their leaders; but the human nature of the men serving their country were/are the same.

I am glad that the military is finding ways to rehabilitate our wounded servicemen by finding roles for them to play within the military. This may have been a decision made out of necessity, since manpower is so short. I very much appreciated the guidance and examples, provided by veterans of 3 wars who served at battalion level and higher, whose wounds rendered them "unfit for combat", but whose contributions to their units were invaluable. To me there could have been none greater.

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Originally posted by DevilDog2847:

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Originally posted by AGBrina:
Please Stop This!

Why do we need to belittle one generation in order to appreciate another? This generation of military is no greater or less than our generation; and our generation is/was just as good as the one that served before it.

Could there have been an American military unit greater than Washington's "Army" of 2-3,000 who stayed with him through the winter of 1776-7? Of course not! Those men could afford to fire no more than 2 volleys from their rifles/muskets per battle. The rest had to be done with bayonets and pikes (yes, pikes!). Yet they fought dozens of engagements that winter, besides Trenton and Princeton, against a British Army which numbered over 20,000! Yet, it was the British Army which had to retire to New York City! Wasn't that our greatest generation, then?

There is no such thing as a "Greatest Generation" pf Americans, except in the minds of those who fixate on the present and discount the past.

However, there are great leaders and then there are poor ones. And the outcome of a war depends greatly upon which kind of leader is in charge.

George Washington is without a peer in American history, and maybe in world history, for having done so much with so little.

Compare him to the leaders at the start of the Korean War: While at the same time that General Puller was leading the 1st Marine Division, carving its way through the Chinese toward the port of Wonsan, General MacArthur was overseeing the disintegration of the 8th Army as it abandoned its wounded and much of its equipment during its flight south past the capitol of Seoul. Then General Ridgway showed up and saved the U.S.Army from what may have been its greatest defeat in history. Same generation. Same war. Different outcomes.

The character of the men who served under Washington, Puller, MacArthur, and Ridgway reflected the character of their leaders; but the human nature of the men serving their country were/are the same.

I am glad that the military is finding ways to rehabilitate our wounded servicemen by finding roles for them to play within the military. This may have been a decision made out of necessity, since manpower is so short. I very much appreciated the guidance and examples, provided by veterans of 3 wars who served at battalion level and higher, whose wounds rendered them "unfit for combat", but whose contributions to their units were invaluable. To me there could have been none greater.

In all fairness I hope you sent a similar email or letter to Tom Brokaw... I mean heaven forbid should Mr. Kinney and anyone else find inspiration in those currently serving in a war! I must have missed the part he supposedly said that no generation before this has made a contribution to our country. Being 10 years older than the average enlistee, I'll tell you I also was impressed with the quality of young men and women joining up. They certainly weren't the type that wanted the likes of you to feel sorry for them because of your political views. And truth be told, with the mentality of many of the wounded wanting to continue the fight, it may very well be the greatest generation maybe not ever, but certainly since WW2. The Vets of any of the wars in between would be exceptions, but certainly not those on the home fronts. Don't tell me all those who degraded those coming home during the Vietnam War would be "great". Sure public opinion got the war ended, but at the cost of (If I could use vulgarities here I would as it really would be appropriate to emphasize) how our military members were treated.

But I forget. Anytime anyone finds something inspirational or positive in this war, they are some right wing neo-con wacko out of touch with reality.

EXCELLENT ARTICLE MR. KINNEY!