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RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,176799,00.html

McCain talks the talk but he doesn't walk the walk when it comes to supporting our troops and veterans. I seriously have to wonder why any veteran or member of the military would support him.
 
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why would any veteran support obama???
 
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I wouldn't believe that garbage!
The author is slightly partisan as well;

While the IAVA is not tied to any political party or candidate, Rieckhoff has been a harsh critic of the Bush administration and the war in Iraq. A 1998 graduate of Amherst College, he now lives in New York City.

Hmmm....
makes you wonder about his agenda!

Keep wondering! Trust me, I am active duty and I remember the Clinton years! Not good! Obama would be worse for this country, worse than Jimmy Carter!

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Obama would be worse for this country, worse than Jimmy Carter!

thats for sure
 
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I wouldn't believe that garbage!
The author is slightly partisan as well;

While the IAVA is not tied to any political party or candidate, Rieckhoff has been a harsh critic of the Bush administration and the war in Iraq. A 1998 graduate of Amherst College, he now lives in New York City.

Hmmm....
makes you wonder about his agenda!

Keep wondering! Trust me, I am active duty and I remember the Clinton years! Not good! Obama would be worse for this country, worse than Jimmy Carter!

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1. What do you base that on?
2. Want to talk about bad times in the Military? I received a thank you letter from Richard M. Nixon for my initial term of service. THAT was a bad time to be in the Military! Even worse to be getting out.
3. Don't take IAVA as gospel. Examine the voting records. It's easy to talk smack...harder to hide your voting record.
When they show you who they are...believe them!
 
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I hear a lot of talk about how McCain "doesn't support the Vets". It's based on him rejecting bills that were loaded down with non-vet related pork. Just take a look at them. As a vet and a taxpayer, I say "Go John!".
The spotted owls don't need my veteran dollars.

If you doubt this, just look at the pork wagon our politicians hooked up the the bailout!

Wooden arrows?

Rum subsidies?

Wool research?

Yeah, those REALLY help the recovery.

So, before you blast McCain for not voting "Yes" on a Veteran's Bill, take a close look at what he voted AGAINST in the bill.
 
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worse than Jimmy Carter!



Don't even gat me started on that anti-semitic hypocrit. I was around for his debacle of a Presidency! To say he absolutely sucked would be far too kind.

He's the worst President EVER!
 
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McCain loves this country and our veterans no doubt. He does'nt vote for bills that are filled with pork. I can't wait for him to break out his pen for the line item veto, he will use it for the good of this country and our veterans. The hand-out crowd is gonna get pounded by his pen.
 
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I hear a lot of talk about how McCain "doesn't support the Vets". It's based on him rejecting bills that were loaded down with non-vet related pork. Just take a look at them. As a vet and a taxpayer, I say "Go John!".
The spotted owls don't need my veteran dollars.

If you doubt this, just look at the pork wagon our politicians hooked up the the bailout!

Wooden arrows?

Rum subsidies?

Wool research?

Yeah, those REALLY help the recovery.

So, before you blast McCain for not voting "Yes" on a Veteran's Bill, take a close look at what he voted AGAINST in the bill.


yup he has stated many times he will no vote for any bill that is porked out.... who really supports the vets one that will not vote for bills loaded with none related pork for the vets or one that adds pork to the vet bills???
 
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I can't wait for him to break out his pen for the line item veto,


Unfortunately, the President doesn't have line item veto authority, if I'm not mistaken. I wish he did. Bush would have been able to expose the democrats for the sow-sucking hogs they are.
 
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03Mach1, You are correct, the line item veto was struck down by the supreme court. Clinton got to use it for a while and now it's gone. My mistake,,,,,dammit.
 
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Exactly! McCain is really notorious for that kind of stuff. Like many, we all hate that pork barrel, extra attachments to bills that start out clean.
That mess has to stop!

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Originally posted by 03Mach1:
I hear a lot of talk about how McCain "doesn't support the Vets". It's based on him rejecting bills that were loaded down with non-vet related pork. Just take a look at them. As a vet and a taxpayer, I say "Go John!".
The spotted owls don't need my veteran dollars.

If you doubt this, just look at the pork wagon our politicians hooked up the the bailout!

Wooden arrows?

Rum subsidies?

Wool research?

Yeah, those REALLY help the recovery.

So, before you blast McCain for not voting "Yes" on a Veteran's Bill, take a close look at what he voted AGAINST in the bill.
 
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Ok, I got that off of Wikipedia. Just put in Rieckhoff's name and you'll see it!
Nixon's time frame was a bad time for America, however, I can't imagine Nixon being worse than Carter! Granted I wasn't there, however, I have talked to many vets from that era, and they will tell you that Carter was great on giving large pay raises, however, readiness, training, morale and living facilities were really bad!

If you want to see an objective website for voting records here:

http://www.issues2000.org/default.htm

This website is a complete guide to many of our local political figures in America today. It's very OBJECTIVE and only shows the voting records and stances on issues.

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I wouldn't believe that garbage!
The author is slightly partisan as well;

While the IAVA is not tied to any political party or candidate, Rieckhoff has been a harsh critic of the Bush administration and the war in Iraq. A 1998 graduate of Amherst College, he now lives in New York City.

Hmmm....
makes you wonder about his agenda!

Keep wondering! Trust me, I am active duty and I remember the Clinton years! Not good! Obama would be worse for this country, worse than Jimmy Carter!

Wink

1. What do you base that on?
2. Want to talk about bad times in the Military? I received a thank you letter from Richard M. Nixon for my initial term of service. THAT was a bad time to be in the Military! Even worse to be getting out.
3. Don't take IAVA as gospel. Examine the voting records. It's easy to talk smack...harder to hide your voting record.
When they show you who they are...believe them!
 
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The Officers of our military branches support us vets. They have their lips and noses in the politicians ears. It helps them so they help us.
McCain may be the exception to the rule since he is so rich now. I bet he hasn't spent a retirement check in 20 years.
 
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ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) - John McCain touts Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as a force in the his battle against earmarks and entrenched power brokers, but under her leadership the state this year asked for almost $300 per person in requests for pet projects from one of McCain's top adversaries: indicted Sen. Ted Stevens.

That's more than any other state received, per person, from Congress for the current budget year, and runs counter to the reformer image that Palin and the McCain campaign are pushing. Other states got just $34 worth of local projects per person this year, on average, according to Citizens Against Government Waste, a Washington-based watchdog group.
When they show you who they are...believe them!
 
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Thanks Paul Rieckhoff and IAVA for this report card.
And just look at the McCainiacs having a hissy fit like vampires being hosed down with holywater cause their boy, 'ol Johnny Rotten got a "D"!
What Veteran should vote for McCain?
Senate "D List"
Below you will find a complete list of Senators who earned a D or lower from IAVA Action this year. These legislators must improve their voting records if they are to legitimately claim that they support our troops and veterans.

Tom
Coburn
OK

Michael
Enzi
WY

John McCain R-AZ
Jim
DeMint
SC
 
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ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) - John McCain touts Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as a force in the his battle against earmarks and entrenched power brokers, but under her leadership the state this year asked for almost $300 per person in requests for pet projects from one of McCain's top adversaries: indicted Sen. Ted Stevens.

That's more than any other state received, per person, from Congress for the current budget year, and runs counter to the reformer image that Palin and the McCain campaign are pushing. Other states got just $34 worth of local projects per person this year, on average, according to Citizens Against Government Waste, a Washington-based watchdog group.
When they show you who they are...believe them!



Population in Alaska is like 627,000, so $300 per head ain't bad. The bridge to no where pops its ugly head up once in a while but that was Stevens not the Gov. Have some friends up by the artic circle, works for government. She's been trying for decade to get indoor plumbing and heating for the "elders". What the heck, just hold it granny, spring is a little late this year.

If you read the full story you would have notice 68% of active and vets support McCain for the President. Now that ain't shabby. This years politic's is shaping up to vote for something before you vote against it is a democrat thing, and vote against something before you vote for it a Repub thing.
 
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Great points about the ear marks and pork ADDED to all these important pieces of legislation. I feel that the much vaunted New GI Bill is really a sham. Benefits have increased more than 100%, but there has NEVER been any explanation as to how it will be paid for. Guarantee the housing allowance is the first thing cut when the government has to trim up programs.
 
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So, before you blast McCain for not voting "Yes" on a Veteran's Bill, take a close look at what he voted AGAINST in the bill.


We CAN'T "blast" him for voting YES on any Veteran's Bill, because he hasn't.

Why don't you point out a Veteran's Bill that he voted YES on for us. Because there are at least a dozen he voted against... but I cannot find any he voted FOR.

OK?
 
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Do any of you know that the Bailout-Bill just passed was supposed to address the MORTGAGE crisis? So then why would McCain claim he was going to spend MORE hundreds of billions ($300 billion) buying up already bought-out mortgages?

The old man is completely out of the loop, or his head is in a continuous feedback-loop.

And it doesn't really matter how many Veterans are for him or Obama, as overall Obama wins in every poll taken. We Veterans do not have enough clout to truly affect those numbers because they have divided us on purpose to nullify our Vote.

Politics 101. Divide - and Conquer.
 
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