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RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,174831,00.html
Hell the VA is still screwing over Vietnam Veterans, the line forms to the right. Tanks  |
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"Last week, we held a care package event in Denver with our local IAVA members, and were joined by Michelle Obama and her family, Jill Biden, Colorado First Lady Jeannie Ritter, Iraq veteran Tammy Duckworth, and Medal of Honor recipient Paul Bucha.
All those in attendance showed real commitment to our men and women serving overseas, devoting several hours of their time to sending hundreds of our troops a little piece of home." Wow, several hours. How many of them volunteer on a regular basis? I bet some do, but I also bet that some only do it when it is politically correct and it serves their purpose, not the troops. I wish people would volunteer for the right reasons and not for selfish gain. |
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Experienced Member ------------------  Proud Member Derelict Veterans Group OF MUNERIS UT TOTUS (Of Service To All) ------------------  |
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!  |
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How many hours of YOUR time do you "regularly" devote to volunteering, especially those given to our Veterans and/or the troops serving in the field? |
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Weatherguesser, I would have to guess that I give a little over 200 hours a year. The work involves the American Legion, VFW, a local youth baseball program, my old unit's booster club and of course, working the concession stands and helping with the grounds at the local school where my kids go. In fact, I have used vacation days at work to help with community events. How about you? Do you volunteer? To be honest, my comments in the earlier post was to voice my displeasure with the self-promoting volunteers. Be honest, don't you think it is self-promoting (and this is not intended to be toward any single party)? I truly believe that life is more than who we as individuals are and we owe it to the future to give back to the community. |
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I'm all for federal funding for appropriate mental and physical health services for veterans who have service connected problems. But being homeless, a drug addict, an alcoholic, or a vagrant is not service connected and should absolutely not be supported by the taxpayer. These behaviors are not tolerated while in uniform, so why should they be linked to the uniform when released from active duty? There are other gov't services that deal with these bad actions. The VA has higher priorities to handle.
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The most important thing that the new President and Congress should do for veterans is to restore the USA to a true Republic such that every individual, regardless of race, ethnicity, gender, or socio-economic background has the same liberties, rights, and responsibilities. Without doing the same, many veterans will face (and have faced) discrimination by those special interest groups who, because they are politically powerful, have promulgated laws and customs which give them privileged status, often over veterans. If this is done and our republican form of government is restored, the same will benefit veterans, of course. However, men, especially caucasian men will be much more willing to make the sacrifices, through military service, to defend those republican values which have been reinstituted.
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I rarely see a man or woman at the VA Medical Center at Canandaigua, New York, who would be young enough to be a veteran of Desert Storm, much less OIF/OEF. Our services here have always been excellent; but the scale of operations have been cut back dramatically in recent byears. The World War II veterans are almost all gone now. There weren't that many Korean and Vietnam veterans to begin with. The VA will naturally shrink to fit the numbers of veterans who would use and need its services.
All wartime service veterans deserve access to the medical services provided by the VA. I question, however, the new emphasis on "mental problems", and especially on the the "new-age" mind-altering and mind-numbing drugs, which seem to permanently disable those who use them. All military men learn how important it is to "suck it up": i.e. to get tough mentally as well as physically. It is the unspoken, but probably most important aspect, of "character-building", which every recruit undergoes during the training phase of his term of service. The men, whose mental health break down during and after military service, are more in need of a counselor who has a little "drill instructor" inside of him, than a guy/gal who can write prescriptions. |
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Hell thier still screwing over the Korean Veterans  |
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I agree....the drugs serve no real purpose, long term, other than immediate crisis intervention. I do not, however, feel the "suck it up" approach is a "cure all" either, although it definitly has it's place to enhance growth (forward movement). Understanding and acknowledgement is also good crisis intervention.
I agree there is a great need for increased funding and upgrading of the VA system. It has been under tremendous pressure to provide quality service with nothing much to work with. I feel there has to be an effective means of transitioning soldiers from the military to the civilian sector! This message has been edited. Last edited by: Tower_Flower, |
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Experienced Member ------------------ Proud Member Derelict Veterans Group OF MUNERIS UT TOTUS (Of Service To All) ------------------ |
And I have never bucked the line and don't ever attend to but I will not step out of line to let anyone to move FWD that was born after I retired. Those that are ahead of me are WWII and Korean vets. Fellow Viet vets stand with me, all others...the line forms to the rear. |
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Experienced Member ------------------ Proud Member Derelict Veterans Group OF MUNERIS UT TOTUS (Of Service To All) ------------------ |
this is the main reason why I support medical cards issued by VA for vets to seek help in civilian care. There are alot more civilian hospitals out there to choose from. |
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Yes, but when it comes to the care of soldiers, alot of hospitals are clueless.
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Also...are these priviate healthcare providers going to be REQUIRED to provide ALL treatment at no additional cost?
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These are the symptoms of a root cause that needs to be treated... Just like the azzhat politician, can't remember his name, that wanted the V.A., to NOT treat smoking related illnesses, stating that the veterans did it to themselves... Never mind that the military used to encourage smoking and included cigarettes and damp proof matches in the rations and even passed out cigarettes free of charge to the personnel... The V.A. can not ignore the symptoms of a problem, the whole illness must be treated, symptoms and all... Pain relief is not necessary to treat someone who has cancer, chemo and radiation treatment in and of itself is painless... There are the side effects, severe nausea, loss of appetite, joint and muscle pain, these things are not as a result of the cancer, yet they are treated... Homelessness, self medication by use of illicit drug usage, these are the symptoms of a much deeper problem that needs to be treated... Does the vet have a responsibility to help him or herself in this also?.. Of course they do!... To ignore the symptoms of those that need help is also as ridiculous as trying to treat the vet who doesn't really want the help and just pays "lip service" to the treatment... Respectfully, SUNLINER81 |
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Good reply. To say these symptoms are not service connected is a loooong stretch! A judgement better left to the physicians and psychs.
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10 Day suspension for posting hot links. (28 Nov 08) vighper |
This is Obama's plans for the military etc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sJ4IQGxEg&feature=related |
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Experienced Member ------------------ Proud Member Derelict Veterans Group OF MUNERIS UT TOTUS (Of Service To All) ------------------ |
No, just like "all" vets do not get 100% treatment in a VA hospital. They will be authorized to seek civvie treatment for the % of disability that is given by VA. |
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