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Bush Withdraws Veto Threat Over New GI Bill
http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,170113,00.html Of course he withdrew his veto threat. He had no choice or you can rest assured he WOULD have. The worst part of that insult is still to come too, as he will likely use FDR's GI-Bill signing anniversary to see himself on the news signing this bill, and then claiming that he is only "following the example laid out in the original GI Bill to honor our Veterans..." yada, yada, yada. Three Cheers for the CONGRESS. |
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Finally, with adminstration kicking and screaming, the NEW GI Bill gets approved. I just hope all of you remember the reasoning used by the POTUS and Sen.(s) McCain, Mitchell,& Graham for opposing this bill when you hear them say that they "support" the troops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3epBpwgzs8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umb_Msia8nU&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yp4prYtBWw&feature=related |
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Member -------------------  Proud Member Derelict Veterans Group -------------------  |
Maybe if our worthless politicans had not loaded the first verisons of this bill with outlandish and expensive "pork", then Pres. Bush would not have had to threaten to veto it. Remember that! Seldom is any bill in Congress makes it thru without out a half dozen admendments containing useless pork spending. The GI Bill had millions of dollars of pork spending attached to it when in the initial stages, which why it was almost useless!
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House Approves Veterans’ Education Aid in a Deal on War Spending
WASHINGTON — The House voted on Thursday to offer what amounts to a free college education to the new generation of military veterans as part of a costly legislative package that finances the war in Iraq through the end of President Bush’s tenure and into the early months of the next administration. In allowing approval of about $162 billion for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Democrats essentially stopped trying to use Pentagon spending as a tool to force Mr. Bush to withdraw combat troops or impose other conditions on his handling of the war. “The president simply will not sign such legislation,” said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, an opponent of the war. “Our troops are in harm’s way. They need to be taken care of.” Under an arrangement that allowed separate votes on the war money and a series of domestic initiatives, the war money was approved 268 to 155, with mainly Republicans backing it. Ms. Pelosi and 150 other Democrats opposed the unrestricted war money. A separate package of domestic initiatives including the new G.I. benefits, a 13-week extension of unemployment aid for millions of Americans and $2.6 billion for Midwestern flood relief was approved 416 to 12. The overall measure included $186.5 billion in spending along with the estimated $8 billion costs of the unemployment benefits and almost $63 billion for the college aid for veterans over the next decade. Frustrated in their efforts to win a troop pullout, Democrats pushed the plan to grant military personnel new rewards once they leave the service, advocating a substantial expansion of college aid for those who have experienced “especially arduous” duty in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks. Under the program, those who serve at least three years on active duty will qualify for educational assistance equivalent to tuition and fees at a leading public university in their state along with housing assistance, money for books, school supplies and tutorial assistance. At the request of the administration, which initially opposed the veterans’ plan, the bill would also allow those who serve longer in the military to transfer unused education aid to immediate family members: a provision that added about $10 billion to the estimated costs. “This legislation will build upon the G.I. Bill’s historic legacy of ensuring brighter futures for service members and their families,” the White House said in a statement. “We urge both the House and Senate to immediately pass this bipartisan agreement.” The deal, fashioned quickly Wednesday by House leaders with White House support, must still be approved by the Senate, which will consider it next week. Senators in both parties said initial indications were that most of their colleagues were prepared to back it even though some spending initiatives they favored had been dropped. The bill includes $5.8 billion for levee construction in Louisiana, $210 million to cover additional costs for the 2010 census, $400 million for science programs and about $10 billion for foreign aid programs. The costs, coming at the time of a mounting federal deficit, drew objections from fiscal conservatives in both parties, particularly since the veterans’ program was not paid for. In allocating enough money to continue the war into the summer of 2009, Republicans and Democrats showed they were eager to dispose of the politically charged issue before the November elections. The money will also give the next president time to settle into office before being confronted with the financing issue. But some Democrats were clearly disappointed that they had come up short in repeated efforts to force a troop withdrawal. “For me this is one compromise too many, one cave-in too many,” said Representative Jim McGovern, Democrat of Massachusetts. Other Democrats feared a backlash from voters who supported Democrats in 2006 in hopes of ending the war. “I am concerned that some people out there might be angry,” said Representative José E. Serrano, Democrat of New York. Ms. Pelosi said House Democrats had done what they could. She blamed Senate Republicans for thwarting the anti-war push, saying that most Republicans stood solidly with Mr. Bush and denied Democrats the 60 votes needed to overcome filibusters. “The 60-vote requirement to bring up legislation in the Senate has prolonged this war,” said Ms. Pelosi, who called the result a tragedy. Republicans said that improving conditions in Iraq validated their decision to back the president in continuing the war. “Unilateral defeat, unilateral surrender, which is what the Democrats have wanted, will leave us with an unstable Iraq, a place where Al Qaeda would have had free access and a base of operations,” said Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, the Republican leader. He and fellow Republicans came to the negotiating table in response to growing unease in the party ranks over being seen as blocking added jobless aid when economic anxiety is running high back home. Dozens of Republicans joined House Democrats last week in backing the unemployment money in a separate bill and the veterans’ plan had broad support as well. While conceding the inability to set a withdrawal date, Democrats said they had won significant concessions in the bill, noting that Mr. Bush had not only initially opposed the veterans’ education plan, but also faulted the extension of unemployment benefits and vowed to oppose additional domestic spending. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/washington/20spend.ht...ducation&oref=slogin |
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yup funny how the dems forget about that... so how porked out was this bill??? are the troops ging to get theirs first or do they have to wait till all of the civilian stuff gets theirs??? the other bill the gis were the last to see anything the pork projects were to be taken care of first... |
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This is a better bill thanks to President Bush. He promised transferability ... and he has delivered on his promise. This is an important addition to the GI Bill and to military families. Well done, Mr. President! Don't know why Democrats opposed it but I'm glad you held out for it ... and got it! |
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Answer something for me outlaw, so even I can understand. Why was it that when the Republicans controlled congress, there was only responsible spending and not pork? Yet now, with less "earmarks" anything attached to a bill IS pork. Wonder if it might just be a matter of partisan perspective? |
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its all pork if it isnt directly connected to what the bill is... like bridge repair on the gi bill pork.... heating for the poor on the gi bill pork...hell even funds for the police on the gi bill pork....
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How porked out is all the money wasted on contractors??? The billions that were "LOST" to Cheney's company could have covered all the "pork" attached to the bills. Oh wait, you think money for first responders is pork! |
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Who the hell are YOU kidding??? Did you know that the bill MCCAIN authored and the exact same bill the PRESIDENT supported over the 21st Century GI Bill would have made spouses and dependents wait 12 YEARS to be able to transfer the benefits??? You deserve to rot in hell for thinking the President and McCain did the right thing in supporting that women and children wait 12 YEARS for transferability. The option in the 21st Century GI Bill allows transferability after 4 YEARS. I know, you need it spelled out: F-O-U-R Y-E-A-R-S |
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Who the hell do YOU think YOU are kidding? Webb's BI Bill had NO transferability so you and your ilk apparently had NO regard for spouses and children whatsoever ... Webb and Democrats had the better part of a year to add transferability to the Webb GI Bill ... and didn't despite being encouraged by many of us to do so. The addition of transferability and the 4 year wait period came from the Administration - not McCain, not IAVA, and not Webb. Bush got what he wanted. The end result is a better bill for soldiers AND their families than either the Webb bill or the alternative. I may well deserve to "rot in hell" ... but not for my observations on this thread. Save your ad hominems for someone that cares. This message has been edited. Last edited by: I_M_Qwerty, |
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First off I am neither Republican or Democrat. This GI Bill thanks to Webb And Hagel will pass. Neither Bush or McCain endorsed this bill thinking it was to generous for us Veterans. If you try to say different your are totally wrong. Only after it was passed by house and senate veto proof Bush took the probability of a veto out. Guess McCain was too worried about his wife being taxed a little to much of her millions. Now they say they were against it because it did not have the provisions of the transferability of benefits to dependents!!!!!! That is a joke. A joke that is what they are instead. You voted against the bill (wait you were not there to vote McCain you were just against it for the taxation on your wife part) shame on you. If he becomes President, Shame on us. Meanwhile Obama voted ( yes he was there in the Senate to vote not like McCain) in favor of the new Post 9/11 GI Bill. Guess who is going to get my vote!!!!!!! Not because I am Democrat but because Obama voted in favor of something that is in favor of my family and my well being.
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cheneys company?? what company he dosent own any company.... |
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E-N-R-O-N
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thats conspaircy
oh no that must be proof that cheney owns it all.... oh nooooo... |
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Why should the service member have to re-enlist in order to be able to transfer their education benefits to their dependents ? What about the service member who has served 20 to 30 years & have served since 9/11 or served in Iraq and Afghanistan and are about to retire; They should be entitled to do the same for their dependents with out having to re-enlist. After all they sacrificed themselves and their families for many many years!!
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The treasonous Richard B. Cheney owns a ton of stock in Halliburton/KBR - who has bilked the US out of billions of dollars in US taxpayers money the expenses of which they cannot account for yet insist on getting paid. He was their CEO - and was paid to a large extent in stock. |
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nope not since like 2000 he sold it all and instead of getting one lump sum he gets checks every year....
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I am urging my congressman to investigate dick chaney and if there is any way he really needs to be in prison. |
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