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Anyone notice how as soon as there is a story that has to do with Islam or the Quran, the message board for it gets shut down. Sensorship is UnAmerican.
 
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These Kids need to do more P.T. Road Marches etc etc
 
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pltou812, the answer to you question ids YES, and, are you refering to the shooting of the koarn? yep, one cant post.hmmmmm
Sop, we can say it here, why the hell are we always the ones to have apologize to appeaze?
Yes, they are stopping many of us from saying what we really think. It must be "politically incorrect"..................
 
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That photo always breaks my heart. May God give you strength and see you through your ordeals. We will always pray for you all.
 
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Thank you for the free psychiatric care. Many troops need it.
 
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WTF? None of this makes sense, or is it me?
 
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I thought this was a thread on "Group offer Free psychiatric Care to vets".....

I don't get it...
 
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Our troops need all the help they can get...from the DoD, the VA and any private organizations...

To all who offer aid...thanks
 
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WTF? None of this makes sense, or is it me?


Yes sir. It is you that does not make sense.
Even with my limted, but extremely intense, combat experience I have been devastated by the losses my unit endured and for the haunting memories that I re-experience every single day.

And if I am this f-ed up, then the men and women coming back now are most definitely having severe psychiatric problems.

I don't mean any disrespect sir, but if it doesn't make sense to you, then I suggest you try to open your mind and your heart to the possibility that combat causes crippling emotional problems. The key is to at least be open to the possibility.

Respectfully,

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The VA already offers free mental health care to combat veterans and their families at places called Vet Centers. They are separate from the VA hospitals and have a very comfortable and relaxing environment. They have been doing this since Vietnam and there is no payment ever and you can use the service for as long as you want. There is also no time limit. My uncle is a vietnam vet who had been out of the service for well over 20 years and he just started using their services. They have helped him a lot. I think it's great that they want to help but I just thought that not enough people know about the vet centers, I surely didn't.
 
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The VA already offers free mental health care to combat veterans and their families at places called Vet Centers. They are separate from the VA hospitals and have a very comfortable and relaxing environment. They have been doing this since Vietnam and there is no payment ever and you can use the service for as long as you want. There is also no time limit. My uncle is a vietnam vet who had been out of the service for well over 20 years and he just started using their services. They have helped him a lot. I think it's great that they want to help but I just thought that not enough people know about the vet centers, I surely didn't.

Correction: The VA offers medication management. I just had my periodic psychiatric appointment and the doctor was emphatic that these appointments are for the purpose of managing medication, and since I don't take meds it was pointless for me to come to the clinic.

I attempted to contact the nearest vet center. There is none so I contacted the vet center I visited while living in Phoenix, AZ. Their exact words: "We are not affiliated with the VA... We provide limited services which include some types of counseling to veterans. These services are funded through other non-VA entities."
 
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Originally posted by Cider33Alpha:
WTF? None of this makes sense, or is it me?


Yes sir. It is you that does not make sense.
Even with my limted, but extremely intense, combat experience I have been devastated by the losses my unit endured and for the haunting memories that I re-experience every single day.

And if I am this f-ed up, then the men and women coming back now are most definitely having severe psychiatric problems.

I don't mean any disrespect sir, but if it doesn't make sense to you, then I suggest you try to open your mind and your heart to the possibility that combat causes crippling emotional problems. The key is to at least be open to the possibility.

Doc


First off the poster is a woman not a man, maybe reading a profile before commenting would have been helpful here.

Second her comment isn't because she doesn't understand giving free help to those who need it. If you actually bother to read some of her other comments you would see that she actually is a huge advocate for it. The thing she is talking about the non coherent, non topic related gibberish at the start of the topic.

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pltou812, the answer to you question ids YES, and, are you refering to the shooting of the koarn? yep, one cant post.hmmmmm
Sop, we can say it here, why the hell are we always the ones to have apologize to appeaze?
Yes, they are stopping many of us from saying what we really think. It must be "politically incorrect"..................


And this:
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Anyone notice how as soon as there is a story that has to do with Islam or the Quran, the message board for it gets shut down. Sensorship is UnAmerican.


Neither of these have anything to do with the topic at hand . In addition I really hope and pray that this assine statement
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These Kids need to do more P.T. Road Marches etc etc
was some mis-posted comment because if not that person needs to have their head checked (no pun intended) PT and road marches aren't going to fix anything with these Soldiers and it's that attitude that is causesing many not to seek help and even more to give up and possiblty hurt themselves or their families.

This is a case where you need to really read the whole topic and ALL the posts before commenting instead of seeing one that "offends you" and going off about it.

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"War does not determine who is right - only who is left." ~ Anonymous
 
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To army of 120:

I did click on the profile, but didn't read much of it. I saw the picture and in a moment of sexism I made a poor assumption.

Big deal! And why on earth would I read her other comments. She made one comment on THIS board that was not in the context of another's post. So if you wanna be a police officer please do it by yourself. In other words, piss off.

To Cider33Alpha: My apolgies ma'am for the momentary lapse of gender etiquette.
 
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Therre are those of us out here [from another era] that do understand the hell that some go though mentally after combat, and the rest of their lives. This trhead is very important, becuase it addresses something that most men will not talk about. PTSD is as real as getting shot at. Only it reocurres day after day, most all ones life. The sacrifice goes beyond ones time in war, the pain never goes away. Help each other people, stick together. left unchecked, this pain can cause great problems to all of us in the future, and in the present.
Much respect to our warriors, those that are in pain, remember there are many that DO CARE. It is not a weakness to feel, it is easier not to feel. But, it catches up with you one day. So, talk about it with those that were in it with you, those that have not been there dont understand as well as those that were there.
Anyone that thinks it is not real, then why do men take a hangun and blow their brains out? Not just a few, but MANY. Why did my generation use drugs, and drink themselves into a place where we could rest? All this aid, it is not hopeless, there are still people that do care about their fellow man. Im one of them. Remember what you did was your duty, you followed your orders, you stayed alive. You did very well in a situation where there are no rules. My heart goes out to those who suffer.This is such a hard thing to talk about, but get it off your chest, as much as you can. keep things in perspective, as much as you can.God bless all of you, and give you strength and wisdom to overcome.
 
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army of 120 said it, if one does not care about other people, then they should at least care about theirselves, some of these men are and can be extremely dangerous, and it is not their fault. Like the man said, anyone know how many men have killed their family? themselves? how close to the edge they are? this is a fact, it is real.Check the stats on how many incidents there has been................too many. It takes a big man to tell it how it is, a big man to admit he has been shattered by war.people, when it gets so bad, that a man takes his own life, something is wrong dont you think? Some one next to you out there wants to talk, if i were you i would take the time to talk to him , it main thing is to let all know they are not alone in this.
 
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To army of 120:

I did click on the profile, but didn't read much of it. I saw the picture and in a moment of sexism I made a poor assumption.

Big deal! And why on earth would I read her other comments. She made one comment on THIS board that was not in the context of another's post. So if you wanna be a police officer please do it by yourself. In other words, piss off.

To Cider33Alpha: My apolgies ma'am for the momentary lapse of gender etiquette.


Roll Eyes Done with the temper tantrum now?

It's more than a laspe in gender etiquette... you went off on another tantrum because you didn't bother to READ whatelse was posted. What you need to do is take yourself and your shitty attitude elsewhere.


"War does not determine who is right - only who is left." ~ Anonymous
 
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Originally posted by CombatMedic141INF:
To army of 120:

I did click on the profile, but didn't read much of it. I saw the picture and in a moment of sexism I made a poor assumption.

Big deal! And why on earth would I read her other comments. She made one comment on THIS board that was not in the context of another's post. So if you wanna be a police officer please do it by yourself. In other words, piss off.

To Cider33Alpha: My apolgies ma'am for the momentary lapse of gender etiquette.


Roll Eyes Done with the temper tantrum now?

It's more than a laspe in gender etiquette... you went off on another tantrum because you didn't bother to READ whatelse was posted. What you need to do is take yourself and your shitty attitude elsewhere.


Yeah, I'm done. Anything else honey?
 
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Group Offers Free Psychiatric Care to War Vets:

It´s a start but a lot more can and needs to be done. Mental stress is something that affects people in a lot of different ways. Our Vets. should have this care provided anywhere in the U.S. at the Gov. expense. Also to the families who at times, goes though more stress that the soldiers on the ground.
 
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The VA already offers free mental health care to combat veterans and their families at places called Vet Centers. They are separate from the VA hospitals and have a very comfortable and relaxing environment. They have been doing this since Vietnam and there is no payment ever and you can use the service for as long as you want. There is also no time limit. My uncle is a vietnam vet who had been out of the service for well over 20 years and he just started using their services. They have helped him a lot. I think it's great that they want to help but I just thought that not enough people know about the vet centers, I surely didn't.
 
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You are correct, there are none here either.
It does no good if the Vet centers are not available everywhere there are vets.

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Originally posted by oishii2u2000:
The VA already offers free mental health care to combat veterans and their families at places called Vet Centers. They are separate from the VA hospitals and have a very comfortable and relaxing environment. They have been doing this since Vietnam and there is no payment ever and you can use the service for as long as you want. There is also no time limit. My uncle is a vietnam vet who had been out of the service for well over 20 years and he just started using their services. They have helped him a lot. I think it's great that they want to help but I just thought that not enough people know about the vet centers, I surely didn't.

Correction: The VA offers medication management. I just had my periodic psychiatric appointment and the doctor was emphatic that these appointments are for the purpose of managing medication, and since I don't take meds it was pointless for me to come to the clinic.

I attempted to contact the nearest vet center. There is none so I contacted the vet center I visited while living in Phoenix, AZ. Their exact words: "We are not affiliated with the VA... We provide limited services which include some types of counseling to veterans. These services are funded through other non-VA entities."


Todays politics remind me of an old saying. - "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Joseph Stalin
 
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