RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,167242,00.html

Wow, more idotic drivel with no real purpose other than to throw rocks blindly.

You either have US troops dieing or those attatched to terrorists dieing. Who do you let die?

Is this not MILITARY dot com? For and about the military? Why in the name of all that is holy would you post an article by this turd burglar which tells us what?

1. The NYT reported on a missile strike on a known terrorist (you know, the reason we are over there)

2. Said NYT report was provided by someone who had no business talking about it. (I guess security clearances are easy to come by these days)

3. The missile strike report was confirmed by credible military officials.

4. Whether the strike successfully killed the terrorist remains to be seen, but I highly doubt there were not some eyes nearby confirming ole dude was still there.

5. Some people who were not the terrorist most likely died as well. Call that the price of hanging out with a terrorist or living next door to one and not doing your civic duty and reporting him to "Team America."

This is by far the most useless, ridiculous article I have ever read. I am very disappointed to see something like this on the pages of military.com.

"It looks like we're still using U.S. Navy warships to assassinate suspected terrorists . . ."
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So what is wrong with that? Kill terrorists any way you can. I haven't heard any complaints about the process ....until now. Go Navy.

Sounds like Mr. Huber is saying the WH, DOD and Pentagon are using shotguns for rabbits and B-B-guns for elephants.

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Originally posted by sgtpotsie:
Is this not MILITARY dot com? For and about the military? Why in the name of all that is holy would you post an article by this turd burglar which tells us what?

1. The NYT reported on a missile strike on a known terrorist (you know, the reason we are over there)

2. Said NYT report was provided by someone who had no business talking about it. (I guess security clearances are easy to come by these days)

3. The missile strike report was confirmed by credible military officials.

4. Whether the strike successfully killed the terrorist remains to be seen, but I highly doubt there were not some eyes nearby confirming ole dude was still there.

5. Some people who were not the terrorist most likely died as well. Call that the price of hanging out with a terrorist or living next door to one and not doing your civic duty and reporting him to "Team America."

This is by far the most useless, ridiculous article I have ever read. I am very disappointed to see something like this on the pages of military.com.

Roger that sgtpotsie!, I too am very very disappointed with military.com. I have lost a lot of friends on this web site because politics/Bush bashing are thier primary agenda, majority of the issues they post here has nothing to do with the military but to blame the US of all the problems facing us now a days. This web site is nothing but UNMILITARY.

You guys are whining about the press not saying what you like? Go ahead... that'll help.

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To sum up: we’re executing counterterrorism tactics that are exorbitant and counterproductive, Mr. Bush is behaving like a dictator, Congress is letting him get away with it, and our guarantors of freedom in the fourth estate are too busy courting anonymous officials to do much of anything else.

In summation... Truer words have not been spoken, and THESE are the reasons why McCain has NO chance... he wants to continue on the same course of action, and in the tradition of the man he says is doing a "great job", aka G.W. Bush.

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Originally posted by Weatherguesser:
You guys are whining about the press not saying what you like? Go ahead... that'll help.

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To sum up: we’re executing counterterrorism tactics that are exorbitant and counterproductive, Mr. Bush is behaving like a dictator, Congress is letting him get away with it, and our guarantors of freedom in the fourth estate are too busy courting anonymous officials to do much of anything else.

In summation... Truer words have not been spoken, and THESE are the reasons why McCain has NO chance... he wants to continue on the same course of action, and in the tradition of the man he says is doing a "great job", aka G.W. Bush.

Guesser, when it comes to elections, "It ain't over, till it's over!"...
LOL Respectfully, SUNLINER81

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Guesser, when it comes to elections, "It ain't over, till it's over!"...
LOL Respectfully, SUNLINER81

SUNLINER,
Just picture Katie and the usual media pundits on the November 5th morning talk shows, and on NPR, with long worried faces asking, "What went wrong again?" following a McCain victory over those two nitwits who are killing each other in the polls.

But, like you said, "It ain't over yet."

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I think some of you guys might have missed some of the point he was trying to make....
Think of "All" the cost" that went into taking out that One "suspected" Sheepherder in the armpit of the world. That Al Qaeda guy got the crappy gig out of all the Al Qaeda jobs by being sent to Somalia to set up shop...he was destend to get killed egventually by somebody, just the US used the most expensive means possible to do it.
Like:
1) Intel/ Sattlelite communication
2) A Ship of station (of some sort unidentified)
3) Cruise missle that cost mega bucks..
4) Everything in between to make those three things work togther...
When a pay-off of maybe a couple of hundred bucks and a ratty old AK-47 in the hands of a hopped up local could have done the job too...
Pretty expensive way to take out a flea don't ya think?

Plus I think were starting to waste our efforts on the wrong Terrorist with this country...Al Qaeda, has pretty muched been contained alot in small third world countries...The US Real Terrorist now is the Oil Company CEOs! Them and their greed has helped destroy the American way off life more effectively than the Attack on the Twin Towers ever had...Every American if Affected! So, I think we should start using our navy to start taking them out...one by one till they see the errors of their ways...or until the price of gas becomes more reasonable...
Before you laugh at that..think about how disrupted your life has become since the price of fuel has shot up, and how much out of pocket you pay for everything because of the price of oil, and how many people have lost their jobs because of the price of Oil...
So, Shake your fist in anger and do the big Hurrah for taken out Joe chit the ragman in Somalia...but he's not our real enemy now...he's just a small bit player...

I love the smell of burning tires in the morning...

Missile strikes against oil company CEO's; …something to ponder. As far as utilizing tactical weapons for assassination purposes; again, use all means, from in-country Somali operatives, to other means as appropriate. There is no fixed way to conduct these operations. Use what will keep the enemy off guard, what will continue to demoralize him, and continue to do it successfully.

A tactical weapon was used a few days ago to take out some holdouts in Baghdad; there was no hue and cry then.

Great job, Navy!!

I’m still here Louie. I’ve just been busy.

I don’t really understand why this guy was so worried by what type of ship was used. I don’t care, and it doesn’t matter.
There is a fact of war that this guy doesn’t get and neither do many in the US. It’s called collateral damage. It’s bad but it happens.
I also don’t get why he was worried by the rank of the Captain. Even if he is an O-3, all he is doing is relaying the message and I don’t think he would need to be an O-6 at 50yrs old to do that.
This OP-ED was a waste of space if there ever was one.
What was his real point?
Was it the “wrong” terror group? (Does it matter?)
The rank of an Officer?
What ship was used?
Collateral damage?
Or rules of engagement?

Some people CANNOT post without politicizing the subject.
Bush, McCain, Obama, Clinton, etc. is for another subject. You can’t tie in these things with EVERY OP-ED.
Some folks must have a hard time sleeping at night.

6362250,

Oil is private industry. I don’t like the prices either but we don’t need to invite the Government into private industry.
Think about it.

Be cool,

Mac

CorporalmcIntyre:

Well, when your paying massive amounts of money to fill your vehicle this summer, and find out how friends can't feed their families cause they've been layed off..due to High Oil prices...then you'll be screaming BOMB the CEOs too! Might as well get our real taxpayers moneys worth with these air strikes!

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Originally posted by CorporalMcIntyre:

Oil is private industry. I don’t like the prices either but we don’t need to invite the Government into private industry.
Think about it.

Be cool,

Mac

Why can't the whole energy business be nationalized? Lots of governments have done exatly that.

Look, a dead terr is a good terr- doesn't matter if we used a "183 or 687 grain slug" or a 500 lb bomb, missile, etc. My buddies in the ground pounding 11B's (from which I retired) are stretched to their limits, same for my pals in Uncle Sam's Misguided Children and Special OPS- So who cares what we used as long as one more confirm terrorist rests in Hell!

Is it me or does this guy have a giant axe to grind?

Whether or not Huber has an ax to grind is a side issue at best and probably irrelevant to the issues at hand. Whether or not the country's leadership has made best use of limited resources is very much the issue. Whether or not our Military and our Government are wasting millions of dollars for a headline is very much the issue. The reason no one squawked at the use of such weaponry in Baghdad is because that made more sense. So you don't like Huber. Or maybe you just don't like his colorful sarcasm. He has consistently thrown harpoons at what he believes is mismanagement that ultimately costs lives and squanders resources. At least he isn't inserting plugs for his employer or his political "think-tank" as some other Military.com op-ed writers do.

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Originally posted by 6362250:
CorporalmcIntyre:

Well, when your paying massive amounts of money to fill your vehicle this summer, and find out how friends can't feed their families cause they've been layed off..due to High Oil prices...then you'll be screaming BOMB the CEOs too! Might as well get our real taxpayers moneys worth with these air strikes!

If you took the oil companies entire profits away it would lower the price about 10 cents per gallon. The oil companies don't set the price of oil.
Now back to the discussion at hand. When Bush invaded Iraq his detractors extolled the virtues of Clinton's approach which was the use of limited missile strikes to combat and kill terrorist leaders. Now they are saying this is wrong?

I sometimes wonder if it would not be best to just level the entire area or country for that matter...then we only have to hear about it one time for a short period of time before the next so called crisis arises...

We just take the hit all at once and say...oh well...wait till next time...

This isn’t a discussion about oil and not one about LTC. NORTH!
Will you get off the guy? This OP-ED isn’t about him.
I agree with the 11B. I’d rather see the criminals blown up from a distance with collateral damage than to have troops on the ground.
If we don’t do it that way and we send in troops, the libs would be crying about that too!
In WWII operations were carried out by the Allies called “Morale Bombing”. Look up that. It was necessary whether you liked it or not.
All war is expensive and dirty. There will be crimes on both sides.
Yeah, this guy has an axe to grind but it’s hard to tell which one.

If you look at the above postings others have theirs to grind too.

See ya,

Mac