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RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,162057_2,00.html
Although he is very hard on John McCain, I thought that Huber was being fair...until he started labeling him as a slob and a panderer. He is a politician, after all. Furthermore, there are/were people running for Presidency this year, who could be worse for the country. The "hundred year war" thing is the most scary aspect of a McCain Presidency. That makes him look like George W. Bush on Steroids. Another very troubling thing about him is his waffling on torture. He specifically called waterboarding "torture", and has said many times that America is better than that. But recently he has defended President Bush's reservation to be able to authorize waterboarding (torture) when he feels that it is warranted. I -an avid supporter of John McCain in 2000- can see a marked deterioration in his physical appearance and demeanor, and a small deterioration in his speech and cognitive powers. A great man's life is wearing down. |
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I doubt you ever supported John McCain. Just another lefty democrat who enjoys making cracks like "George W. Bush on steroids". If you don't have a problem with it, tell us who you are supporting this election cycle. |
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 Already past the future |
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To do it right, this will take decades. 10 of 'em? prob'ly not. And the levels of violence we've dealt with over the last 5 years should tail off til at some point Iraq should be just another hardship deployment and not a war zone. But his hundred year war statement did give the knee-jerks and ankle biters something to seize on.
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Not only did I contribute my dollars to McCain's campaign in 2000, I distributed flyers and rang doorbells in my neighborhood, and was named as an alternate delegate in the New York Primary. I was contacted by his campaign early last year and was asked if I would support him again. I declined and wrote back that I thought that the Senator's time had passed.
I have been an active and registered Republican since 1976. I believe that my personal political philosophy remains unchanged since then, remaining consistent with those of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. The current Republican Party is dominated by Neo-fascists (Neo-Conservatives) who advocate "in your face" foreign policies and strong-arm political tactics. Republicans in this administration have instituted an overbearing and intrusive "Big Government", which was anathema to Reagan and Goldwater. Ron Paul is the only candidate for the Presidency, who has remained faithful to the ideals and philosophy of Goldwater and Reagan. He is, incidentally, the only Republican who -as an elected member of the House of Representatives- opposed Gerald Ford and supported Ronald Reagan throughout the primary process in 1976. Ronald Reagan knew when it was better to "cut and run" rather than stay in a rat-infested quagmire. He pulled out of Lebanon almost as fast as he went in. Do any of you remember? |
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Not agreeing with Senator McCain is a pre-requisite of being just another lousy journalist trying to make some notoriety and a name. The shame is, it's publishing such tribble on the dime of Vets and active duty personnel. As soon as Huber does five years in the Hanoi Hilton we can take him serious. Until then, just another blowhard.
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Yep, I remember. And I remember the roots of the Powell/Weinberger doctrine. I also remember Mogadishu 10/03/93. I was agianst the 1st and the 3rd thoufg in favor of the second out of grim determination until the late 90's. further how do you square Paul's isolationism with reagan's aggressive foreign policy, Beirut notwithstanding?
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Interesting article ... made it all the way to "Huber" in the byline before losing interest.
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I guess no one has heard of the word "hyperbole."
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Hmmmm, uses words like "Neo-Fascists", George W. Bush on Steroids", and an inference that his mind is crumbling...
Sounds remarkably DU'ish in nature. And Huber? wouldnt make a good snuffy, just another hack. |
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Would that be a synonym for "bullshit"?  |
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Godawgz: Good question! and valid point!
Neither Goldwater nor Reagan (nor me, incidentally) wanted to be a "flower child" or an isolationist in the face of the challenge posed by the Soviet Union, which was directing a strategy aimed at global domination. Those times were not called "The Cold War" for nothing. I don't know how Ron Paul voted in those days either, regarding appropriations for the Defense Department. I remember the "shock and awe", the total surprise felt by our own State Department when Reagan, meeting with Gorbachev in Iceland, suddenly proposed total nuclear disarmament. He looked into the eyes of that man and found within himself the courage to be bold and to do something that could bring an end to the Cold War. He succeeded. Unfortunately, the "chickenhawks", who currently lead the Republican Party, found ways to bring us back into the Cold War. Fat chance we have for this "uniter", this "compassionate conservative", to meet with Iran's leaders and much less Mullar Omar, even though the Iraq Study Group suggested that he do so! Of those who still have a reasonable chance of being our next president (McCain, Clinton, Obama), only Barrack Obama has stated that he intends to call a summit meeting in Washington D.C. with all the heads of state of all Moslem-dominated nations. Of course, that scares the crap out of the zionists and the NeoCons (same difference, I know). That's plenty of reason for someone like me to prefer him over the other two; and it gives just as much reason for others who wish for a hundred year (or decades, as you prefer) war, to oppose him. |
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Vote Hillary the crook
 Vote Obama the muslim HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA |
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Interesting summation. But due to the fact McCain has spent a great deal of time in the middle east in the last years along with the Secretaries of Defense and State, plus the CIC has touch base with almost every leader on his tours of the area, we've seen a over abundance of attention in the last seven years, the idea of meeting with the leaders of Iran or Hamas or Hizbullah would go directly to the advantage of the opposition and against the leaders that have relied on the strength of the US. We can start in Damascus. |
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Yep so more Bullshit from the left... First off, why the hell would he call a summit of all the Muslim leaders on Iraq? What does Bangladash, Indonesia and Malaysia have to do with this? Do you include Signapore, Ethiopia and India in such a conference? They're not Muslim but they have a large Islamic minority. How about Lebanon, does that count as a Muslim nation as Christians hold a significant amount of power? How about Azerbaijan and Albania? They're Muslim nations but they are part of the Coalition. Do you allow Kosovo to have a representative? How about the leaders of Turkey? They're population is Muslim but they're government is fanatically secular. And why would this scare most Republicans as McCain has claimed that war with Iran is an absolute last possibility? For your information the US and Iran do communicate through Switzerland and middle men. Also, when I said hyperbole I was referring to McCain's statement. |
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The idea of Obama meeting with Omar or A-jad scares the hell outta me, and I'm a methodist and a gunboat diplomacy kinda guy. McCain meeting with them is fine by me. I actually agree with the ISG on that point. Obama seems to be taking his foreign policy cues from Brzeneski and I don't want that cat having ANY input whatsoever in our ME policies.
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