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RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,160090,00.html
"Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war!" I just know this one's going to cause some comment, so I'll just sit back and see what everyone has to say before putting in my two cents. |
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I don't know. It was long and disparate enough, with a coupla too many strawmen set up, that I don't even want to poke at it. Even if likely agree with parts of it. I think it's the tone I take exception to. I don't much like diatribe, whether it's from the Left or Right.
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If a tree falls in a forest and lands on a politician, even if you can't hear the tree or the screams, I'll bet you'd at least hear the applause. Paul Tindale  |
I dunno. Looks pretty good to me and a fairly good synopsis of history. A bit simplistic, but good. All, except the following"
"This led to World Wars I and II, and then the Cold War, which was an ideological struggle between the Judeo/Christian west and the Evil Empire of Godless Communists complete with proxy wars that featured more buggering of third world heathens." The petty politics of Europe led to WWI and a slightly unbalanced wallpaper hanger the other. However, both were the end result of centuries of warfare and politics between neighbors that could not quite be finished once and for all. Actually, the world’s stiffs and wars are nothing more than a continuum of petty feuding going back to the beginning of civilization. Nothing starts in a vacuum. Nothing just begins all of a sudden as some would like to think: Iran is one that comes to mind. Now that I have started this, back to you, aunte. |
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it is disheartening to watch the country Abraham Lincoln called mankind's "last best hope" devolve into a postmodern incarnation of the old world at its worst
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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See what you mean. Posting it is comparable to putting dog shiite in the middle of the road and watching people to see if they will step in it, or walk around! |
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Over simplified "version," and I use that term extremely lightly, of world history.
Hes a hack same as hes accusing others of being. |
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For proof that Bush invaded Iraq and Afghanistant because "God told him to", Huber quotes the BBC quoting Palestinians.
Thats... I... Uh... There's really not much more to say after that, is there? Swami |
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Roger That Nick . . . |
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Jeff Huber and Joe Galloway are my two favorite op-ed writers, which most likely puts me in the minority on this forum. I think Mr. Huber states the facts with truth, clarity and good humor. He describes George Bush as a "messianic Evangelical Christian". I would agree with that description insofar as the Reverend Sun Myong Mun, founder of the Unification Church and self-professed reincarnation of Christ, can also be described as a "messianic Evangelical Christian".
BTW, why haven't we heard from Joe Galloway lately? |
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Nobody should vote for a candidate because of his religous views. Any candidate who says he talks to god or gets advice from god or will consider religion when making decisions that affect the American people should not be running for president. It is inconcievable that in this day and age people would allow their religion to affect any policy ofour government. Why don't we just go back to the stone age, live in mud huts and worship the sun.
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GONE 8 Nov Fin |
As the 60's democrats would sing, (while takin a toke), Let the sun shine.. |
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A fan of the fifth dimension I see........a little before my time, I grew up in the 90s. Here is one that was before my time as well
Imagine theres no heaven Its easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people living for today Imagine their no countries(except the U.S.A.) It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for AND NO RELIGION TOO Imagine all the people Living life in peace.......... And I couln't stand John Lennon(filthy hippy) when I was growing up, and now for some reason the music makes sense. |
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Misanthrope2: I agree with you about Huber & Galloway. They might put dents in the wood when they hit the nail so hard, but they're hitting the nail regardless.
As to Huber taking the sacred cow of religion in today's politics... (sorry, I couldn't help myself)... he reiterates the same irritation as many of our Founders with many of their contemporaries on this same problem. I honestly believe the Constitutional barrier between the Government and the Church was the 1770's PC version of what Jefferson called "the separation of Church and State." Be wary of anyone who controls a war machine and says he or she is getting "commands" or "instructions" or whatever from some greater-than-human source(s). The "source" might not be what you think.  |
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And the source might be Dwight Eisenhower, a man who knew his onions if ever I saw one, and who explicitly warned about the situation pertaining in the US today. Talk about not learning from history! Still, when you get folks like (mainly) Cheney at the helm and Bush to do his biddding, what can you expect? MsG |
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Aw yes, not learning from history...is that the reason the UK is such a mess? They learned it from history? or they failed to learn? Already past the future |
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Jeff Huber is right on.
The truth (hopefully) will set us free. USAF (Ret) |
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Huber is a senseless mindless hack who can pull a few historical facts together and make a shallow pointless observation of them. Wars are fought usually for secular reasons, with religion used as the Moral Justification. The Greek Wars did in fact match up city states with different patron gods/godesses. but were fought for regional domination, resources and control of trade routes. Same for the crusades. Funny how the pagans in most dire need of a swordpoint conversion mostly sat atop valuable commodities or strategic locations.
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Huber at his satiric best. Poking fun at another foundation on which a whack of people think America was built and the rest of the world should be. If it wasn't for the fact that thay have the ability to really move their agenda forward, it might be humorous.
This is a dated article but the 'good work' goes on. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...005062202335_pf.html Another reason that 'losing' is unthinkable. |
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suspended 90 days as of 5/19/09 |
Sorry for butting-in, couldn't resist. |
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