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RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,159816,00.html

This has also impacted the local EFMP programs in the DC/northern VA area. Since there are no funds and no idea when they are arriving, the EFMP is scaling back operations one program at a time.
That's right, the CiC vetoed my son's childcare!! Eek
 
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That's right. The partisan divide is so wide now that Congress and the President can't even agree on the meaning of the word "veto."
Actually, the partisan divide is so wide that Congress and the President can't agree on what "in session" means. If Congress were "in session" instead of playing little games in the Senate, they could have fixed this bill and had it back to the President in days. The fact that Rieckhoff omits is that the House, that originates spending bills, is not "in session". At least Pelosi, unlike Reid, didn't play games with their vacation.
 
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What else is new, since when has Congress given a Rat's behind about the Military? They know when the budget has to be approved, yet they neverever get it to the White House on time. They always load it up with Pork barrel admendments that have little or nothing to do with the Military. When they White House tries to balance the budget, they end up in dead lock!.In the 70's we often put off exercises around budget time because you didn't know if you had the funds or not, or how much you would get funded. These same political hacks would and do give the Military a 2.5-3.5% pay hike and then give themselves a 10% hike. 3.0% for an E3 with 2 kids isn't a hell of alot, 10% of 100K is 10 grand which is a lot, for which they do very little. Nothing has changed with these idiots!
 
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Why is your childs healthcare dependent on a military spending bill?
It was an unintended consequence of political shenanigans,But Kanye West might say that Bush hates children (especially ones listed as EFM.)
 
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I've an EFMP granddaughter and we have seen no impact (yet) from the pocket veto. On the other hand, her father may have lost a $20K bonus because of it. Perhaps if Congress had passed the legislation in a timely manner ... or cut short their vacation to come back to DC to deal with the veto ... we wouldn't be in this quandry.
 
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What else is new, since when has Congress given a Rat's behind about the Military? They know when the budget has to be approved, yet they neverever get it to the White House on time. They always load it up with Pork barrel admendments that have little or nothing to do with the Military. When they White House tries to balance the budget, they end up in dead lock!.In the 70's we often put off exercises around budget time because you didn't know if you had the funds or not, or how much you would get funded. These same political hacks would and do give the Military a 2.5-3.5% pay hike and then give themselves a 10% hike. 3.0% for an E3 with 2 kids isn't a hell of alot, 10% of 100K is 10 grand which is a lot, for which they do very little. Nothing has changed with these idiots!


"since when has Congress given a Rat's behind about the Military"

since when has the current occupant of the White House given a Rat's behind about the Military?

other than the many photo ops
 
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since when has the current occupant of the White House given a Rat's behind about the Military?

other than the many photo ops

You ,sir are one bitter,cynical old man.
Borderline CinC bashing.
 
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That's right, the CiC vetoed my son's childcare!! Eek


I can't read anything in your profile, hidden, to explain why our government is responsible for your child's healthcare. Dependent children have automatic childcare in the on-base medical facilities.
 
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since when has the current occupant of the White House given a Rat's behind about the Military?

other than the many photo ops

You ,sir are one bitter,cynical old man.
Borderline CinC bashing.


Thank you for the complement Smile
 
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That's right, the CiC vetoed my son's childcare!! Eek


I can't read anything in your profile, hidden, to explain why our government is responsible for your child's healthcare. Dependent children have automatic childcare in the on-base medical facilities.

If you read my post, I say he vetoed my son's CHILDCARE, not healthcare. We use the EFMP Respite Care program for my son, who has several medical conditions that make a standard babysitter unwise at best. The head of the Fort Meyer Military Community ACS/EFMP told me that the recent veto of of the funding bill had cut their GWOT based budget. Perhaps she was joking.
SignalSgtWilliams, I see nothing in your profile, public, that convinces me 100% that you are who you say you are, and not a Nigerian scam artist. Razz
 
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That's right, the CiC vetoed my son's childcare!! Eek


I can't read anything in your profile, hidden, to explain why our government is responsible for your child's healthcare. Dependent children have automatic childcare in the on-base medical facilities.

If you read my post, I say he vetoed my son's CHILDCARE, not healthcare. We use the EFMP Respite Care program for my son, who has several medical conditions that make a standard babysitter unwise at best. The head of the Fort Meyer Military Community ACS/EFMP told me that the recent veto of of the funding bill had cut their GWOT based budget. Perhaps she was joking.
SignalSgtWilliams, I see nothing in your profile, public, that convinces me 100% that you are who you say you are, and not a Nigerian scam artist. Razz
I've a simple question. Has the Respite Care program shut down?
 
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Yes, there is no money to pay the providers.
 
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Yes, there is no money to pay the providers.
Thank you. Hopefully Congress will come back into session soon and pass the legislation ... absent the section to which the President objected.
 
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That's right, the CiC vetoed my son's childcare!! Eek


I can't read anything in your profile, hidden, to explain why our government is responsible for your child's healthcare. Dependent children have automatic childcare in the on-base medical facilities.

If you read my post, I say he vetoed my son's CHILDCARE, not healthcare. We use the EFMP Respite Care program for my son, who has several medical conditions that make a standard babysitter unwise at best. The head of the Fort Meyer Military Community ACS/EFMP told me that the recent veto of of the funding bill had cut their GWOT based budget. Perhaps she was joking.
SignalSgtWilliams, I see nothing in your profile, public, that convinces me 100% that you are who you say you are, and not a Nigerian scam artist. Razz


At least my profile is public and I have a list of buddies who will verify who I am. How about yourself? Roll Eyes You could be an illegal with false documents getting government assistance. With a hidden profile you could be anyone.
 
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"The partisan divide is so wide now that Congress and the President can't even agree on the meaning of the word "veto." Unfortunately, while the politicians are playing word games, troops and veterans are missing out..."
That pretty much sums it up.
 
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I've an EFMP granddaughter and we have seen no impact (yet) from the pocket veto. On the other hand, her father may have lost a $20K bonus because of it. Perhaps if Congress had passed the legislation in a timely manner ... or cut short their vacation to come back to DC to deal with the veto ... we wouldn't be in this quandary.


No offense, but that is two posts in the same thread referring to the Congressional recess as a "vacation", which it tends not to be at all. Check out how your representative spent the recess if you like, but i doubt they were sunning themselves in the Bahamas. Surely it is not a good thing to elect representatives and then not allow them to go outside the beltway for the full two years? The atmosphere seems to be somewhat noxious. Cool
 
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I've an EFMP granddaughter and we have seen no impact (yet) from the pocket veto. On the other hand, her father may have lost a $20K bonus because of it. Perhaps if Congress had passed the legislation in a timely manner ... or cut short their vacation to come back to DC to deal with the veto ... we wouldn't be in this quandary.


No offense, but that is two posts in the same thread referring to the Congressional recess as a "vacation", which it tends not to be at all. Check out how your representative spent the recess if you like, but i doubt they were sunning themselves in the Bahamas. Surely it is not a good thing to elect representatives and then not allow them to go outside the beltway for the full two years? The atmosphere seems to be somewhat noxious. Cool
Point taken - poor choice of words ... though my representative isn't doing much. He isn't running for reelection. I imagine, though, that for most of them, anything that gets them out of Washington is, if not a vacation, an improvement.
 
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At least my profile is public and I have a list of buddies who will verify who I am. How about yourself? Roll Eyes You could be an illegal with false documents getting government assistance. With a hidden profile you could be anyone.

Alright, I was trying to keep this lighthearted and friendly.
First, the Mods have stated time and again that they and they alone have the right to call people on their profiles.
Second, only an idiot puts all their info on a public, totally unsecure website. Especially an active duty soldier with a family, when we are involved in a multi front confrontation with cyber savvy opponents who have shown themselves willing and able to use the web for ill purposes.
Thirdly, I have stated before that I don't like the false sense of weight given to posts made by people based on their profiles. A decorated combat vet who says something stupid is still saying something stupid. If your argument can't stand on it's own merit, don't make it.
Lastly, I have buddies who will verify who I am, too. You're not one of them, so you don't need to know. But I'll compromise: Send me your full name, DOB, last 4 and phone number. Once I have verified to my satisfaction that you are on the level, I'll call you and tell you who I am, where I've been, and which t-shirts I've gotten.
 
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At least my profile is public and I have a list of buddies who will verify who I am. How about yourself? Roll Eyes You could be an illegal with false documents getting government assistance. With a hidden profile you could be anyone.

Alright, I was trying to keep this lighthearted and friendly.
First, the Mods have stated time and again that they and they alone have the right to call people on their profiles.
Second, only an idiot puts all their info on a public, totally unsecure website. Especially an active duty soldier with a family, when we are involved in a multi front confrontation with cyber savvy opponents who have shown themselves willing and able to use the web for ill purposes.
Thirdly, I have stated before that I don't like the false sense of weight given to posts made by people based on their profiles. A decorated combat vet who says something stupid is still saying something stupid. If your argument can't stand on it's own merit, don't make it.
Lastly, I have buddies who will verify who I am, too. You're not one of them, so you don't need to know. But I'll compromise: Send me your full name, DOB, last 4 and phone number. Once I have verified to my satisfaction that you are on the level, I'll call you and tell you who I am, where I've been, and which t-shirts I've gotten.


If you read back, your post could not give any weight because there was nothing in your profile that stated your condition of existance. Then you said I'm not who I am. I called you on this thread topic, you called me on my profile as being false. Big difference. Think about it or piss off.
 
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If you read back, your post could not give any weight because there was nothing in your profile that stated your condition of existance. Then you said I'm not who I am. I called you on this thread topic, you called me on my profile as being false. Big difference. Think about it or piss off.

No, you missquoted me (childcare to healthcare). Never did you address the issue of how the recent funding bill's veto affected the EFMP programs in the National Capitol region or the respite care program, or the veto at all. I made a joke attempting to point out the foolishness of relying on un-verifiable 'profiles' as a reason for gauging arguments and you accused me of being an 'illegal' using forged papers to gain government benefits. I then less jokingly pointed out why I don't use the profiles here, but offered a solution that could have satisfied you. You again resort to an ad-hominom attack on my profile and ignore my proposed solution, and say nothing about the veto's effects.
Thus I name you troll and hand the subject to the Mods for review.
By the way, the "edited." (not safe for that info.)

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