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Man, I couldn't read more than the first 1/4 of this... this guy's an IDIOT. Plain and simple. How can you call this "quality" writing when the guy purposefully ignores common sense?
 
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You can just feel the seething hatred coming off this guy!
 
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All this right wing hoopla conveniently ignores the Baby Ruth floating in the punch bowl: 2007, the year of the surge, has seen the largest annual toll of U.S. troop deaths (854) in the history of this woebegone war, and we have the rest of November and December left to go.


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The neocons are making hay out of the reduced number of roadside bomb attacks, despite that fact that on November 12th four American soldiers were killed by a roadside bomb. That same day, an American soldier was killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar, but that didn't stop the neocons from continuing to chortle how well things are going in that province. You'll also hear congratulatory rumblings about how well Iraq's security forces are progressing, despite six Iraqi policemen in a town outside Mosul being gunned down in front of their own police station recently. The gunmen? They got away, of course. How's that for police work?
 
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Mr. Huber should be more gracious, and let the "Surge Supporters" have their day. The surge has apparently done what it was intended to do: bring some stability to Baghdad.

During the surge, the U.S. forces attacked Shiites as much as or more than Sunnis. We gave Sunnis cash and weapons as a way of showing the Shiite-dominated government that it can't play nice with Iran and expect to have the full support of the United States.

Now, will the United States leadership start to withdraw from Iraq all the forces used to execute the surge, or will there be other excuses to maintain these forces? There is no intention by this or any other administration to withdraw entirely from Iraq. (I can't think of any empire in history that ever gave up its colonies and dependent states on a strictly voluntary basis.)

If the surge is really a success, then we don't need these troops to remain in Iraq anymore. We'll find out in the next 6 months if this is the case.
 
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building his resume for the next democrat administration, which won't be anytime soon!
 
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Oh fer crissakes,Huber's back with another anti-Bush tirade. This guy only uses this website as a bully pulpit for his Democratic liberal BS. Nothing Bush does, says or thinks, will ever be accepted by this hate-mongering jaybird. He reminds me of Reverend Al, ever ready to point out some new or imagined great wrong in order to get his 15 minutes of stage.
I'd feel better if he'd pack up his seabag and get his butt over there and show us how to win, but as with Harry Reid, Pelosi, and the rest of the Democrat Neo-libs, its much easier to just sit back in the Berkliner and *****. Where were these type of people when Carter got us into this? Probably returning from Canada.
 
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Sleeping a padded cell with a straight jacket is where this writer needs to be. Sleeping
 
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Piss and moan all you want about Huber's staunch opposition to the corrupt, inept, fanatical mismanagement of our nation by the neoconservatives but we're approaching 3900 dead from this misadventure in Iraq, not to mention the thousands more wounded, and now a most damning bit of news.... the recent report from the British. "Violence in Iraq's Basra province has dropped by 90 percent since British troops moved their base outside the provincial capital, according to British military authorities."
 
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bfw27,
and what do you want to say with your post ?
That you like Mr. Huber, because you like his attitude ? Feel free, but I'd agree more with DevilDog2847, I'd add Huber is a biased idiot, the crap he spews out has no better quality, than what he accuses the opposite party. Alone his picture looks scary, it would find good use to scare the crap out of these dam. insurgents Big Grin But that's torture then.
The drop of violence you mention may tell many things, but one thing for sure: at least in this region it's not about a civil war, in contrary what Mr. Murtha (only a side mark, as I read this post) believes, where you seem to be a admirer of Murtha also.
Could it be, you have sympathy with the wrong guys ? Smile


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Piss and moan all you want about Huber's staunch opposition to the corrupt, inept, fanatical mismanagement of our nation by the neoconservatives but we're approaching 3900 dead from this misadventure in Iraq, not to mention the thousands more wounded, and now a most damning bit of news.... the recent report from the British. "Violence in Iraq's Basra province has dropped by 90 percent since British troops moved their base outside the provincial capital, according to British military authorities."
 
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Is there any way that Military.com can get rid of this idiot. Or did he catch someone with a goat?

How about Maureen Dowd of the New York Times? Although she too is a self-prclaimed expert on everything (as is Huber), she does provide an element of nonsensical humor.
 
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building his resume for the next democrat administration, which won't be anytime soon!



Sir, you hit the nail on the head with a brand new hammer!! Hey, lib's, watch this, can I play with you guys next year?!!!
 
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Hey, let's just call the man a lot of names and accuse him of lacking "common sense", whatever that means. Let's not look at the facts and figures he shows us. Let's not consider that the real reason the surge appears to be working is because we bought off the Sunni warlords and placed weapons in the hands of people who just a few weeks ago were shooting at our guys and placing IEDs. We've offered them power and the opportunity to get rid of AQI, and they've taken it. That doesn't make them our BFF. Let's not consider that the Mahdi army is laying low right now on Sadr's orders, that the Shiite dominated government is even more fractured than it was before the surge started, that tribalism and factionalism is alive and well and waiting for the next round. Nope, let's just pretend that sticking our fingers in the dyke is some kind of long term solution and now everything's going hunky dory.
 
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Hey, let's just call the man a lot of names and accuse him of lacking "common sense", whatever that means.

Let's not look at the facts and figures he shows us.

Let's not consider that the real reason the surge appears to be working is because we bought off the Sunni warlords and placed weapons in the hands of people who just a few weeks ago were shooting at our guys and placing IEDs.

We've offered them power and the opportunity to get rid of AQI, and they've taken it. That doesn't make them our BFF.

Let's not consider that the Mahdi army is laying low right now on Sadr's orders, that the Shiite dominated government is even more fractured than it was before the surge started, that tribalism and factionalism is alive and well and waiting for the next round.

Nope, let's just pretend that sticking our fingers in the dyke is some kind of long term solution and now everything's going hunky dory.



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Hey, let's just call the man a lot of names and accuse him of lacking "common sense", whatever that means.


Common sense in this case is defined as "We increase the number of troops in the region + we launch a military offensive, where we actively go after the enemy = more casualties." So there should be no surprise that casualty numbers increased. And because we never hear about the casualty numbers we inflict on the enemy, I'd be willing to bet that THEIRS increased as well!

"Common sense" also says that in a war, no matter how tragic, there will be casualties. Apparently people think that you can fight a war and have 0 dead and 0 injured.

Statistically You are safer in downtown Baghdad than driving home at 2am when the bars close 16000 people a year die from drunk driving related incidents. Talk about senseless.
 
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You can just feel the seething hatred coming off this guy!
You have something against a person being honest? But OK, go ahead, live in a perpetual state of la-la. When it's all said and done, we who want this wasteful war to end now will be the ones who will be right. History will see to that. The surge, like the "build-up's" in Vietnam, and for which we heard a never ending barrage of BS about from the government, will prove to be a disaster as has been this war from the very beginning. This is THE bottom-line of this tragic and wasteful war.


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You can just feel the seething hatred coming off this guy!
You have something against a person being honest? But OK, go ahead, live in a perpetual state of la-la. When it's all said and done, we who want this wasteful war to end now will be the ones who will be right. History will see to that. The surge, like the "build-up's" in Vietnam, and for which we heard a never ending barrage of BS about from the government, will prove to be a disaster as has been this war from the very beginning. This is THE bottom-line of this tragic and wasteful war.


Wow, how lucky we are to live in a country where we got ours. We are so selfish that we don't, nay, shouldn't help those who need it? I mean seriously, why shouldn't we help out a people , of whom over 500,000 had been raped,tortured, and brutally murdered?

If it is such a waste, please, please, PLEASE explain to me how YOUR life is worth more than theirs? Or mine? Are you saying that just because I can sleep at night confident in knowing that no one will kick down my door, torture me, rape my girlfriend, and kill us both in the end that I should turn a blind eye to those who it happened(s) to?

You want to talk about waste? Waste is 16,000 people a year dying in drunk driving incidents because some a-hole didn't cut himself off or call a cab, or even a good person who made one bad choice. In nearly 5 yrs thats 80,000 people
who have died. In Iraq less than 4,000 people and when you add in the thousands wounded it still doesn't add up to 80,000, all those who have sacrificed because they believed in what they were doing. They may not have agreed with the politics or the reasons for being there, it may have been as simple as looking out for the guy to your left and right. Call out that guy who talks to dead people, John Edward. I wonder how many of those 4,000 thought what they were doing was a waste.
 
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Hey, let's just call the man a lot of names and accuse him of lacking "common sense", whatever that means. Let's not look at the facts and figures he shows us. Let's not consider that the real reason the surge appears to be working is because we bought off the Sunni warlords and placed weapons in the hands of people who just a few weeks ago were shooting at our guys and placing IEDs. We've offered them power and the opportunity to get rid of AQI, and they've taken it. That doesn't make them our BFF. Let's not consider that the Mahdi army is laying low right now on Sadr's orders, that the Shiite dominated government is even more fractured than it was before the surge started, that tribalism and factionalism is alive and well and waiting for the next round. Nope, let's just pretend that sticking our fingers in the dyke is some kind of long term solution and now everything's going hunky dory.


Great Post Auntie!"tribalism and factionalism is alive and well and waiting for the next round." Yeppir,the enemy of my enemy is my friend...even if its the infidel.These former killers and maimers of U.S. troops are just biding their time.Truth is we cannot leave Iraq with all of that oil of "theirs" (ask Alan Greenspan http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article2461214.ece why).

Another truth is Iraqis are still leaving Iraq,especially the ones who worked for us.
 
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bfw27,
and what do you want to say with your post ?
That you like Mr. Huber, because you like his attitude ? Feel free, but I'd agree more with DevilDog2847, I'd add Huber is a biased idiot, the crap he spews out has no better quality, than what he accuses the opposite party. Alone his picture looks scary, it would find good use to scare the crap out of these dam. insurgents Big Grin But that's torture then.
The drop of violence you mention may tell many things, but one thing for sure: at least in this region it's not about a civil war, in contrary what Mr. Murtha (only a side mark, as I read this post) believes, where you seem to be a admirer of Murtha also.
Could it be, you have sympathy with the wrong guys ? Smile


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Piss and moan all you want about Huber's staunch opposition to the corrupt, inept, fanatical mismanagement of our nation by the neoconservatives but we're approaching 3900 dead from this misadventure in Iraq, not to mention the thousands more wounded, and now a most damning bit of news.... the recent report from the British. "Violence in Iraq's Basra province has dropped by 90 percent since British troops moved their base outside the provincial capital, according to British military authorities."

First... Happy Thanksgiving! The holiday might be American, but giving thanks for the right of "responsible" free speech is universal.
Yes I support many of the expressed views of Huber and of Murtha, although I've never met either personally.
Yes, Huber's photo is a little frightening. OK... it's real scary if you stare at it. Don't stare at it. He should have stayed with the previous photo. (Sorry, Jeff, if you're reviewing this. Gotta call a spade a spade. Big Grin)
As to who's right? wrong? Murtha is being vindicated once again. He never asserted that the situation in Iraq was exclusively a civil war. That the situation was even just partly a civil war supported his assertion we should "redeploy." Murtha also made strong mention that Americans were "viewed as occupiers" and that a majority of Iraqis felt it was justifiable to kill Americans, regardless of whether it was "civil war" or "occupation" or "infidels" or whatever cause of the day.
The drop in violence in Basra implies(nothing proven yet, but the evidence is tremendously more solid than the evidence of WMD that got us into the war) that the presence of a foreign(and Western?) military is a primary factor in level of violence.
As to "The Surge?" The "slow down" in deaths of recent weeks does not take away the fact that 2007 is the deadliest year.... so far. America's Military was given a sow's ear(questionable war and war plan for Iraq) and told to make a silk purse(victory, democratization, future ally of US in ME).[I'm assuming, Nike, you've heard the American expression "It's like trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear." If not, I'm sure there's a German equivelent.]
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by DevilDog2847:

Wow, how lucky we are to live in a country where we got ours. We are so selfish that we don't, nay, shouldn't help those who need it? I mean seriously, why shouldn't we help out a people , of whom over 500,000 had been raped,tortured, and brutally murdered?

If it is such a waste, please, please, PLEASE explain to me how YOUR life is worth more than theirs? Or mine? Are you saying that just because I can sleep at night confident in knowing that no one will kick down my door, torture me, rape my girlfriend, and kill us both in the end that I should turn a blind eye to those who it happened(s) to?

DEVIL DOG: If what you say is true, then our priorities are out of whack. Rather than "liberating" Iraq followed by Iran. Syria, and Lebanon, the US should have first invaded Israel and liberated the Palestinians. Talk about "turning a blind eye!".
 
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