RE: http://www.military.com/forums/0,15240,178758,00.html


To wear an American Military Uniform is never a sacrifice. It is an honor. I served six honorable years in the US Army and about ten on the ORARNG and never considered it a sarifice. As a true warrior I wish people would knock of the "Sacrifice Piitty Party". My wife is a Navy Brat, and in all the years of her father's service and mine I never heard her use the word sarifice. Please do not continue to use the "Pitty Party' stuff and allow us true warriors a little dignity.

I belive you misread.

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To put on a military uniform of the United States -- any branch, any rank, any time, any place, any task -- requires sacrifice. Sometimes it's only a weekend a month; sometimes it's the ultimate price.

Mohawk I take what you say in the good spirit I believe you intended it. But there IS a sacrifice. It is nice of the State of Oregon to offer a medal to not just their brave sons and daughters but to the rest of us as well. But you must consider the cost BEFORE putting on the uniform.

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Originally posted by L0A1:
I belive you misread.

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To put on a military uniform of the United States -- any branch, any rank, any time, any place, any task -- requires sacrifice. Sometimes it's only a weekend a month; sometimes it's the ultimate price.

No way, it was not sacrifice. It is an honor to serve. Jesus suggested we serve without expectation of recognition. I agree with him and hate the pitty party. Hard work, dedication, sense of service, yes. Hooking to feed your family is a sacrifice. As one who flew in the ORARNG I have no objection to a medal, I guess I qualify, but sacrifice? What? You are dead longer than you are alive, sort of a Samuri thing. Maybe for you it was a sacrifice, but speak for yourself only. Is it the white sheets at night you miss? I will sleep under the open sky and stars any night. I volunteered and flew Scouts in the AirCav. Not one of us, in our most angry and scared moments thought it was a sacrifice. If you did it was time to go fly slicks, we didn't want you. Thinking like that could get a Loach Driver and his crew killed: and we were all in uniform, USA. We were just doing our jobs. I'll take a good volunteer scout door gunner any day over a soldier who thinks he's sacrificing. Darn if the Army didn't change after they let women in(Not WAC's). Sacrifice is a moderm myth. I wonder if George Washington thought he was sarificing anything? This county has gone soft, seems you are among them. What do ya want a medal? A sacrifice medal, all bright yellow. I just want the dignity of having silently served in a front line job with real bullets. Thanks, but no thanks for the pitty party. You must be a recruiter and this sacifice BS plays well to ink the enlistment contract or you are a pure National Guard type. I flew with a few of them boys and they scared me, same uniform, but they ain't US

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Originally posted by mohawk50:

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Originally posted by L0A1:
I belive you misread.

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To put on a military uniform of the United States -- any branch, any rank, any time, any place, any task -- requires sacrifice. Sometimes it's only a weekend a month; sometimes it's the ultimate price.

No way it was not sacrifice. It is an honor to serve. Jesus suggested we serve without expectation of recognition. I agree and hate the pitty party. Hooking to feed your faqmily is a sacrifice. As one who flew in the ORARNG I have no objection to a metal, I guess I qualify, but sarifice? What? You are dead longer than you are alive, sort of a Samuri thing. Maybe for you it was, but speak for yourself only. It is the white sheets at night you miss. I'll take a night under the stars anytime. Sacrifice is a moderm myth. I wonder if George Washington thought he was sarificing anything? This county has gone soft, you among them. What do ya want a metal? I just want the dignity of having silently served. Thanks, but no thanks for the pitty party.

Tell you what mohawk50, you go away and serve in silence with your dignity and let the rest of us, who are thankful that there are people who recognize what we do and wish to thank us for it, have some recognition.
If you wouldn't contradict yourself we might think you were actually trying to make a rational argument.

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Originally posted by mohawk50:
To wear an American Military Uniform is never a sacrifice.

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Originally posted by mohawk50:
No way it was not sacrifice.

So which is it? Is it sacrifice or not?
Insulting other servicemembers is not going to get you many friends here.
I served in the active Army for 3 years and the Oregon Army Reserve for 4.
You don't like what they're doing here you are free to move to any of the other 49 states.
You won't be missed.
And there's only one t in pity. We might have some for you but you obviously don't want any.

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Originally posted by mmulder67:

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Originally posted by mohawk50:

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Originally posted by L0A1:
I belive you misread.

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To put on a military uniform of the United States -- any branch, any rank, any time, any place, any task -- requires sacrifice. Sometimes it's only a weekend a month; sometimes it's the ultimate price.

No way it was not sacrifice. It is an honor to serve. Jesus suggested we serve without expectation of recognition. I agree and hate the pitty party. Hooking to feed your faqmily is a sacrifice. As one who flew in the ORARNG I have no objection to a metal, I guess I qualify, but sarifice? What? You are dead longer than you are alive, sort of a Samuri thing. Maybe for you it was, but speak for yourself only. It is the white sheets at night you miss. I'll take a night under the stars anytime. Sacrifice is a moderm myth. I wonder if George Washington thought he was sarificing anything? This county has gone soft, you among them. What do ya want a metal? I just want the dignity of having silently served. Thanks, but no thanks for the pitty party.

Tell you what mohawk50, you go away and serve in silence with your dignity and let the rest of us, who are thankful that there are people who recognize what we do and wish to thank us for it, have some recognition.
If you wouldn't contradict yourself we might think you were actually trying to make a rational argument.

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Originally posted by mohawk50:
To wear an American Military Uniform is never a sacrifice.

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Originally posted by mohawk50:
No way it was not sacrifice.

So which is it? Is it sacrifice or not?
Insulting other servicemembers is not going to get you many friends here.
I served in the active Army for 3 years and the Oregon Army Reserve for 4.
You don't like what their doing here you are free to move to any of the other 49 states.
You won't be missed.
And there's only one t in pity. We might have some for you but you obviously don't want any.

No friends or recognition required to serve, nothing unclear or contrdictory about that.

I will go back and read the Regonition for the medal again, but I bet it is for service not sacrifice. I guess if i was awarded the medal, according to your position I would have to leave the state. Now that is a contradictory double standard. Somewhat irrational, but so is the notion of sacrifice ina combat unit.

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Originally posted by mohawk50:
No friends or recognition required to serve, nothing unclear or contrdictory about that.

None is required, but for those that wish to recognize it makes it all the better for those who do.
Sorry that you have no friends or recognition.
Most people like to have their efforts validated. Makes the effort worthwhile.
When do you plan on giving back all the "medals" you've been recognized with by the Army?

I think it's more for the community and families. Sometimes people just want to say "thanks" to veterans, and the coin and convoy ceremony are a way for them to express themselves.

If you don't want the coin, don't apply for it. If you don't want to be involved in the ceremony, don't. I don't think the folks who are organizing this are doing you any harm, so why beef about it?

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Originally posted by mohawk50:
I will go back and read the Regonition for the medal again, but I bet it is for service not sacrifice. I guess if i was awarded the medal, according to your position I would have to leave the state. Now that is a contradictory double standard. Somewhat irrational, but so is the notion of sacrifice ina combat unit.

You don't get it. That much is crystal clear.
You obviously don't want it either so I'm finding it very difficult to understand why you even brought the subject up to begin with.
Where did I say you'd have to leave the state if you were given recognition?
I said "If you don't like what they're doing you are free to move to any of the other 49 states."
Did you think everyone would feel like you?
That's extremely presumptuous and arrogant of you.
Do you do everything expecting nothing in return? I'm sure they wouldn't mind keeping the money they pay you.
The best course of action would be to stop this line of belittling the VETERANS that have served (in combat) in their efforts to pass on some appreciation to the next generation of veterans.

You can't give medals back, because they are issued on orders, like orders to Iraq. Medals are not won and then refused. Another rookie myth. I have more Air Medals than you have teeth, and many of my friends died in the AirCav. Totally new concept, give my Air Medals back. Maybe I can just burn my log book. I can tell by your writing that you are a FNG. I'm not looking for a friend, I'm looking for a wing man who will go back to back.

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Originally posted by mohawk50:
You can't give medals back, because they are issued on orders, like orders to Iraq. Medals are not won and then refused. Another rookie myth. I have more Air Medals than you have teeth, and many of my friends died in the AirCav. Totally new concept, give my Air Medals back. Maybe I can just burn my log book. I can tell by your writing that you are a FNG. I'm not looking for a friend, I'm looking for a wing man who will go back to back.

Look, "Mr. Private Profile", don't presume to lecture me on anything without putting up some proof of your "accomplishments".
Seems that only "certain" recognition is ok with you?
You have less brains then I have teeth and that is quite obvious from your attitude.
You are free to do whatever you like, but if you want to criticize veterans efforts to recognize other veterans then you are barking up the wrong tree.
I am not now, nor do foresee any possibility of, being your friend with that attitude.
I can tell by your writing that your an idiot. Doesn't mean that I don't respect you right to post.
But if that's how you want to play I can accomodate you....

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Originally posted by mmulder67:

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Originally posted by mohawk50:
I will go back and read the Regonition for the medal again, but I bet it is for service not sacrifice. I guess if i was awarded the medal, according to your position I would have to leave the state. Now that is a contradictory double standard. Somewhat irrational, but so is the notion of sacrifice ina combat unit.

You don't get it. That much is crystal clear.
You obviously don't want it either so I'm finding it very difficult to understand why you even brought the subject up to begin with.
Where did I say you'd have to leave the state if you were given recognition?
I said "If you don't like what they're doing you are free to move to any of the other 49 states."
Did you think everyone would feel like you?
That's extremely presumptuous and arrogant of you.
Do you do everything expecting nothing in return? I'm sure they wouldn't mind keeping the money they pay you.
The best course of action would be to stop this line of belittling the VETERANS that have served (in combat) in their efforts to pass on some appreciation to the next generation of veterans.

As a trained a attorney I am going to get out of this endless nonresponsive loop. This conversation didn't start with friends, recognition, or insulting anyone. It started with the notion that serving your counhtry or wearing a uniform is a sacrifice. I tried to hint at it but the Bible says when you drop a dollar in the plater don't look around for recognition. Now maybe the Bible is not a book of choice for you, but when you serve, while other may chose to recognize you, you shouls watch your language about how you classify or accept such recognition. Over and Out. Do you get a medal for promoting sacrificial pitty parties which yhas nothing to do with the honorable award from the State of Oregon, of which I am sure will be presented by some comrades of mine. You know for the most part in the USAF only Officers fight, so I really wonder where you are coming from or going.

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Originally posted by mohawk50:
You can't give medals back, because they are issued on orders, like orders to Iraq. Medals are not won and then refused. Another rookie myth. I have more Air Medals than you have teeth, and many of my friends died in the AirCav. Totally new concept, give my Air Medals back. Maybe I can just burn my log book. I can tell by your writing that you are a FNG. I'm not looking for a friend, I'm looking for a wing man who will go back to back.

Look, "Mr. Private Profile", don't presume to lecture me on anything without putting up some proof of your "accomplishments".
Seems that only "certain" recognition is ok with you?
You have less brains then I have teeth and that is quite obvious from your attitude.
You are free to do whatever you like, but if you want to criticize veterans efforts to recognize other veterans then you are barking up the wrong tree.
I am not now, nor do foresee any possibility of, being your friend with that attitude.
I can tell by your writing that your an idiot. Doesn't mean that I don't respect you right to post.
But if that's how you want to play I can accomodate you....

You know i have removed my profile because this is america and even a draft dodger has a right to speak. I have seen the profile card played before. You do not have to be a war hero to express yourself and have an opinion. You are being subjective, brains are qualitative at best. but you can count teeth. You sound pretty well read and write well, and I bet you are a Beaver. While OSU produces more officers, Oregon produces more Generals. As a final note. good night, and go ducks. It has been fun

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Birth of children, Birthdays, Holidays, Graduations, Funerals, yeah I've made (and continue) sacrafices!

Totally agree. Thank you from a man that has been there.

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Originally posted by mohawk50:
As a trained a attorney I am going to get out of this endless nonresponsive loop. This conversation didn't start with friends, recognition, or insulting anyone. It started with the notion that serving your counhtry or wearing a uniform is a sacrifice. I tried to hint at it but the Bible says when you drop a dollar in the plater don't look around for recognition. Now maybe the Bible is not a book of choice for you, but when you serve, while other may chose to recognize you, you shouls watch your language about how you classify or accept such recognition. Over and Out. Do you get a medal for promoting sacrificial pitty parties which yhas nothing to do with the honorable award from the State of Oregon, of which I am sure will be presented by some comrades of mine. You know for the most part in the USAF only Officers fight, so I really wonder where you are coming from or going.

A trained attorney? Now you're outright lying. LOOK BOYS...ANOTHER TROLL TO PLAY WITH!
No attorney would spell that many words wrong, even on purpose.
Your entire rambling is nearly undecipherable but I'll do my best to crack it:
First you started a thread lamenting the "recognition" that a group of VETERANS was bestowing on Oregonians (and others as residency isn't required) by crying about piTy parties.
The majority of people sacrifice something everyday. Just because YOU don't view what you do as a sacrifice doesn't mean others don't.
When the bible says don't LOOK for recognition it doesn't say to condemn any that you might receive either.
I still don't understand this:

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Do you get a medal for promoting sacrificial pitty parties which yhas nothing to do with the honorable award from the State of Oregon, of which I am sure will be presented by some comrades of mine.

First you say it's a pity party then you say that it's an hoonrable award from the state that your comrades will be presenting????
WTF are you drinking?
Are you incapable of reading a profile? What are you trying to say about the Air Force?
Did you miss the first part of my bio where I served in the Army for 8 years before joining the A.F.
Or did you just conveniently ignore it?
Either way you are a poser and a troll and I'm going to leave you to the wolves and mods to chew on for a while.
Get a life....

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You know i have removed my profile because this is america and even a draft dodger has a right to speak. I have seen the profile card played before. You do not have to be a war hero to express yourself and have an opinion. You are being subjective, brains are qualitative at best. but you can count teeth. You sound pretty well read and write well, and I bet you are a Beaver. While OSU produces more officers, Oregon produces more Generals. As a final note. good night, and go ducks. It has been fun

No, I don't know that you've removed your profile. I know that you have no profile and have stated that your no better then a draft dodger and have a right to speak. That maybe true. Irrelevant. Your comments have been refuted, debunked and outright dismissed and now you want to backpedal your way out of your screw up. Sorry, not going to happen.
I am being no more subjective then you are in your opinion of something good someone is doing for veterans.
I have high quality brains as opposed to qualitative brains and counting is the least of my worries.
And you are wrong again...I am a Duck, always have been, always will be.

I appreciate the sparring everyone. As a professionl advocate I like a good debate, moreover, i am merely trying to get out of Basic Training. I found by making my profile public I get more spam than a dog has flees. Others on this blog sight have complained about spam, etc. Even the children of murderers have the right to see their parenhts, without being called idiots. Just testing your metal a little bit. So do not forget the reason we fight for freedom and advocate for justice. The best regonition about and on the whole medal is the UH-1. How could you have missed that? Probably because it was not an F-4! for me the symbol of the Huey is recognition enough. Thank to all you guys at the Salem Facility, I can feel your spirit behind this metal. Mohawk50. OUT

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Originally posted by mohawk50:
You know i have removed my profile because this is america and even a draft dodger has a right to speak. I have seen the profile card played before. You do not have to be a war hero to express yourself and have an opinion. You are being subjective, brains are qualitative at best. but you can count teeth. You sound pretty well read and write well, and I bet you are a Beaver. While OSU produces more officers, Oregon produces more Generals. As a final note. good night, and go ducks. It has been fun

No, I don't know that you've removed your profile. I know that you have no profile and have stated that your no better then a draft dodger and have a right to speak. That maybe true. Irrelevant. Your comments have been refuted, debunked and outright dismissed and now you want to backpedal your way out of your screw up. Sorry, not going to happen.
I am being no more subjective then you are in your opinion of something good someone is doing for veterans.
I have high quality brains as opposed to qualitative brains and counting is the least of my worries.
And you are wrong again...I am a Duck, always have been, always will be.

Now I am the child of a murderer. You can't be a Duck?

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Originally posted by mohawk50:

I appreciate the sparring everyone. As a professionl advocate I like a good debate, moreover, i am merely trying to get out of Basic Training. I found by making my profile public I get more spam than a dog has flees. Others on this blog sight have complained about spam, etc. Even the children of murderers have the right to see their parenhts, without being called idiots. Just testing your metal a little bit. So do not forget the reason we fight for freedom and advocate for justice. The best regonition about and on the whole medal is the UH-1. How could you have missed that? Probably because it was not an F-4! for me the symbol of the Huey is recognition enough. Thank to all you guys at the Salem Facility, I can feel your spirit behind this metal. Mohawk50. OUT

Seriously, stop.
My profile has been public since I joined and I don't get any spam. Turn on your filters.
You don't want to be called an idiot then don't post inflammatory garbage and not expect to receive incoming fire.
I was a Cobra mechanic in the Army for 3 years. Worked on and flew in many Hueys. Don't even go there with me skippy.
It's a meDal made out of meTal. And my mettle is just fine, thanks.
Pay more attention in Basic Training.

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Now I am the child of a murderer. You can't be a Duck?

I never said anything about your parents.
And yes, I am a Duck.
Life goes on.

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Originally posted by mohawk50:

I appreciate the sparring everyone. As a professionl advocate I like a good debate, moreover, i am merely trying to get out of Basic Training. I found by making my profile public I get more spam than a dog has flees. Others on this blog sight have complained about spam, etc. Even the children of murderers have the right to see their parenhts, without being called idiots. Just testing your metal a little bit. So do not forget the reason we fight for freedom and advocate for justice. The best regonition about and on the whole medal is the UH-1. How could you have missed that? Probably because it was not an F-4! for me the symbol of the Huey is recognition enough. Thank to all you guys at the Salem Facility, I can feel your spirit behind this metal. Mohawk50. OUT

Seriously, stop.
My profile has been public since I joined and I don't get any spam. Turn on your filters.
You don't want to be called an idiot then don't post inflammatory garbage and not expect to receive incoming fire.
I was a Cobra mechanic in the Army for 3 years. Worked on and flew in many Hueys. Don't even go there with me skippy.
It's a meDal made out of meTal. And my mettle is just fine, thanks.
Pay more attention in Basic Training.

You know you young guys are all hung up about spelling and fat fingers. In Ben Franklin's day it didn't make any difference how you spelled a word, the goal for an indivdual was to spell it the same way all the time and yes, because of my fat fingers I have broken that rule. Troll or not I have tested your mettle, and you blew it. You really want to always debate without reducung your language to trash talk even if you are a super speller. One thing is for certain, without much sacrifice, I got your goat. Cobra mechanics, like USAF mechanics, take very few rounds. Modernly there is very little requirement for an attorney to type or spell correctly. Such a notion is called form over substance, and while you may show great form you lack substance. As such an expert in the law I would think that you would know that. Also, your writing is very conclusive. In this discourse you have made more conclusions without a basis than I patience for. You are not qualified to judge inflamatory language when you throw the word idiot around. What is the rate of fire of the M-28? How many rockets were on a hog? What was VNE on a Cobra or a Huey for that matter? I have never interpreted one word of this as incoming fire. Skippy bothers me a little bit. Idiot may fit, been called worse, but I think you are a little touchy. From you idiot is okay? How did Donald Duck become the UO mascot? Why is it that Donald Duck may not be the UO mascot in the future? Filters or not this site has had security issues. You might be one of them. I can remember what I was drinking last night, but what are you smoking? Now I will "knock it off".

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Originally posted by mohawk50:
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To wear an American Military Uniform is never a sacrifice. It is an honor. I served six honorable years in the US Army and about ten on the ORARNG and never considered it a sarifice. As a true warrior I wish people would knock of the "Sacrifice Piitty Party". My wife is a Navy Brat, and in all the years of her father's service and mine I never heard her use the word sarifice. Please do not continue to use the "Pitty Party' stuff and allow us true warriors a little dignity.

i dunno.. i PERSONALLY sacrificed a brilliant carreer in Soccer to Put on the Uniform. i turned down a schollarship to SMU to go off to the army. i WANTED to serve, and i figured that when i was done i'd go off to play soccer in college and go pro.

i did not count on tearing up my leg... but i still have a good carreer COACHING soccer

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You know you young guys are all hung up about spelling and fat fingers. In Ben Franklin's day it didn't make any difference how you spelled a word, the goal for an indivdual was to spell it the same way all the time and yes, because of my fat fingers I have broken that rule. Troll or not I have tested your mettle, and you blew it. You really want to always debate without reducung your language to trash talk even if you are a super speller. One thing is for certain, without much sacrifice, I got your goat. Cobra mechanics, like USAF mechanics, take very few rounds. Modernly there is very little requirement for an attorney to type or spell correctly. Such a notion is called form over substance, and while you may show great form you lack substance. As such an expert in the law I would think that you would know that. Also, your writing is very conclusive. In this discourse you have made more conclusions without a basis than I patience for. You are not qualified to judge inflamatory language when you throw the word idiot around. What is the rate of fire of the M-28? How many rockets were on a hog? What was VNE on a Cobra or a Huey for that matter? I have never interpreted one word of this as incoming fire. Skippy bothers me a little bit. Idiot may fit, been called worse, but I think you are a little touchy. From you idiot is okay? How did Donald Duck become the UO mascot? Why is it that Donald Duck may not be the UO mascot in the future? Filters or not this site has had security issues. You might be one of them. I can remember what I was drinking last night, but what are you smoking? Now I will "knock it off".

If you were anything remotely resembling the "attorney" you claim to be (I call B/S and you're lying) then you would know that spelling is very critical in cases where every t has to be crossed and every i has to be dotted otherwise that little thing called a "technicality" will lose the case. So skippy, got any other idiotic retorts today?
You made outrageous claims about your service (that's illegal by the way, Mr. Attorney) and I called your bluff Mr. "private profile".
Now you want to come back and try to save face by typing some ridiculous diatribe about inflammatory language and form over substance when you have been shown to be the troll you are.
Whatever, liar.
It makes no difference to me what games you want to play, but when you try to judge those that HAVE served when you haven't then you will have your azz handed to you every time.
I don't really give a shit about why the Duck mascot looks like Donald Duck. That's not relevant to this discussion or why I like the Ducks. Your redirection failed.
And I know that individuals like you will not "knock it off".
Maybe you had a little too much to drink?

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Originally posted by mohawk50:
You know you young guys are all hung up about spelling and fat fingers. In Ben Franklin's day it didn't make any difference how you spelled a word, the goal for an indivdual was to spell it the same way all the time and yes, because of my fat fingers I have broken that rule. Troll or not I have tested your mettle, and you blew it. You really want to always debate without reducung your language to trash talk even if you are a super speller. One thing is for certain, without much sacrifice, I got your goat. Cobra mechanics, like USAF mechanics, take very few rounds. Modernly there is very little requirement for an attorney to type or spell correctly. Such a notion is called form over substance, and while you may show great form you lack substance. As such an expert in the law I would think that you would know that. Also, your writing is very conclusive. In this discourse you have made more conclusions without a basis than I patience for. You are not qualified to judge inflamatory language when you throw the word idiot around. What is the rate of fire of the M-28? How many rockets were on a hog? What was VNE on a Cobra or a Huey for that matter? I have never interpreted one word of this as incoming fire. Skippy bothers me a little bit. Idiot may fit, been called worse, but I think you are a little touchy. From you idiot is okay? How did Donald Duck become the UO mascot? Why is it that Donald Duck may not be the UO mascot in the future? Filters or not this site has had security issues. You might be one of them. I can remember what I was drinking last night, but what are you smoking? Now I will "knock it off".

If you were anything remotely resembling the "attorney" you claim to be (I call B/S and you're lying) then you would know that spelling is very critical in cases where every t has to be crossed and every i has to be dotted otherwise that little thing called a "technicality" will lose the case. So skippy, got any other idiotic retorts today?
You made outrageous claims about your service (that's illegal by the way, Mr. Attorney) and I called your bluff Mr. "private profile".
Now you want to come back and try to save face by typing some ridiculous diatribe about inflammatory language and form over substance when you have been shown to be the troll you are.
Whatever, liar.
It makes no difference to me what games you want to play, but when you try to judge those that HAVE served when you haven't then you will have your azz handed to you every time.
I don't really give a shit about why the Duck mascot looks like Donald Duck. That's not relevant to this discussion or why I like the Ducks. Your redirection failed.
And I know that individuals like you will not "knock it off".
Maybe you had a little too much to drink?

[QUOTE] You have comitted libel. Look it up. Everything I have written is true.

Definition: Oregon Duck is one who graduated from Oregon which I doubt you did. Merely liking the Ducks does not make you an Oregon Graduate/Duck.

In the law one case is "not" 'more critical' than another. He skipper, same same rookie, under the law all cases are treated with "equal justice." Most cases in modern law courts are now "form plead", (Dah, what is that?> where you just check the boxes and there is no need to cross T's and dot I's. The courts are much smarter than that these days, and moreover, courts have no time for layman who don't know their, yes you, from a hole in the ground. Speak of something you know a little about like being inflamatory and angry.

If you knew the rules of evidence you would know that there has been no re-direction in this discusion, just cross examination on subjects you opened for discussion. You were either an AH-1G mech or not. You are either a Duck or not. Please be honest.

I have recently read virtually everthing Douglas MacArthur ever wrote or said, and there is no evidence he ever used the word sacrifice. Duty, Honor, Country. You choose your words and heros and I will chose mine.

I have filed more motions than you have days of mil.com suspension. And I still have more air metals than you have teeth.
You appear to be a seething, angry individual, and after following your posts for some weeks you are typically inflamatory, as evidenced by your lack of discretion suspension. Maybe when you get off of suspension you can try to say something positive and cause others to enjoy what you write. Probably asking to much for a man who doesn't know what pull pitch means. Happy Holidays and stay away from me.

You scare me.

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Originally posted by mmulder67:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mohawk50:
You know you young guys are all hung up about spelling and fat fingers. In Ben Franklin's day it didn't make any difference how you spelled a word, the goal for an indivdual was to spell it the same way all the time and yes, because of my fat fingers I have broken that rule. Troll or not I have tested your mettle, and you blew it. You really want to always debate without reducung your language to trash talk even if you are a super speller. One thing is for certain, without much sacrifice, I got your goat. Cobra mechanics, like USAF mechanics, take very few rounds. Modernly there is very little requirement for an attorney to type or spell correctly. Such a notion is called form over substance, and while you may show great form you lack substance. As such an expert in the law I would think that you would know that. Also, your writing is very conclusive. In this discourse you have made more conclusions without a basis than I patience for. You are not qualified to judge inflamatory language when you throw the word idiot around. What is the rate of fire of the M-28? How many rockets were on a hog? What was VNE on a Cobra or a Huey for that matter? I have never interpreted one word of this as incoming fire. Skippy bothers me a little bit. Idiot may fit, been called worse, but I think you are a little touchy. From you idiot is okay? How did Donald Duck become the UO mascot? Why is it that Donald Duck may not be the UO mascot in the future? Filters or not this site has had security issues. You might be one of them. I can remember what I was drinking last night, but what are you smoking? Now I will "knock it off".

If you were anything remotely resembling the "attorney" you claim to be (I call B/S and you're lying) then you would know that spelling is very critical in cases where every t has to be crossed and every i has to be dotted otherwise that little thing called a "technicality" will lose the case. So skippy, got any other idiotic retorts today?
You made outrageous claims about your service (that's illegal by the way, Mr. Attorney) and I called your bluff Mr. "private profile".
Now you want to come back and try to save face by typing some ridiculous diatribe about inflammatory language and form over substance when you have been shown to be the troll you are.
Whatever, liar.
It makes no difference to me what games you want to play, but when you try to judge those that HAVE served when you haven't then you will have your azz handed to you every time.
I don't really give a shit about why the Duck mascot looks like Donald Duck. That's not relevant to this discussion or why I like the Ducks. Your redirection failed.
And I know that individuals like you will not "knock it off".
Maybe you had a little too much to drink?

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You have comitted libel. Look it up. Everything I have written is true.

Definition: Oregon Duck is one who graduated from Oregon which I doubt you did. Merely liking the Ducks does not make you an Oregon Graduate/Duck.

In the law one case is "not" 'more critical' than another. He skipper, same same rookie, under the law all cases are treated with "equal justice." Most cases in modern law courts are now "form plead", (Dah, what is that?> where you just check the boxes and there is no need to cross T's and dot I's. The courts are much smarter than that these days, and moreover, courts have no time for layman who don't know their, yes you, from a hole in the ground. Speak of something you know a little about like being inflamatory and angry.

If you knew the rules of evidence you would know that there has been no re-direction in this discusion, just cross examination on subjects you opened for discussion. You were either an AH-1G mech or not. You are either a Duck or not. Please be honest.

I have recently read virtually everthing Douglas MacArthur ever wrote or said, and there is no evidence he ever used the word sacrifice. Duty, Honor, Country. You choose your words and heros and I will chose mine.

I have filed more motions than you have days of mil.com suspension. And I still have more air metals than you have teeth.
You appear to be a seething, angry individual, and after following your posts for some weeks you are typically inflamatory, as evidenced by your lack of discretion suspension. Maybe when you get off of suspension you can try to say something positive and cause others to enjoy what you write. Probably asking to much for a man who doesn't know what pull pitch means. Happy Holidays and stay away from me.

You scare me.

Okay, its medal, not metal, but either way, one or the other will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks for $3.50.

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Originally posted by samh32:
Birth of children, Birthdays, Holidays, Graduations, Funerals, yeah I've made (and continue) sacrafices!

All non military events. Amen, brother. Even so, I was more than proud to pound the NVA while flying as an AIR CAV Hunter Killer Team Xmas 1968. It was no sacrifice at all.

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Originally posted by mohawk50:

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Originally posted by samh32:
Birth of children, Birthdays, Holidays, Graduations, Funerals, yeah I've made (and continue) sacrafices!

All non military events. Amen, brother. Even so, I was more than proud to pound the NVA while flying as an AIR CAV Hunter Killer Team Xmas 1968. It was no sacrifice at all.

Save and Except funerals.