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RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,186677,00.html
Well, this is somewhat refreshing in that not only were some problems outlined, but so were some possible solutions. The most radical way to clean up defense procurement (IMO) is to toss the current system completely, and bypass the thought of "reforming the current system" by replacing it altogether with procedures similar to those used by the British. The Brits use a combined civilian/military working group to devise warfighting strategies across the threat spectrum, and determining what types of hardware (etc) and the quantities required by the various services to execute those strategies comprise the primary deliverable for the defense appropriations bills that the houses of representives have to vote up or down on (in entirety). The system for the most part removes the undue influence of legislators and/or providers altogether, and helps prevent the purchase of unwanted/redundant hardware. But another thing to keep in mind, is that you can't fix the system by even taking as radical a move as suggested above without addressing the problems inherent in lobbying as it is today, or the issues that are presented by the armed services project managers immediately going to work for the defense establishment if the weapon system in question is successful. Or for that matter, addressing the continued use of "cost plus". The major areas outlined above all have to be addressed (this is hardly complete list) if real defense acquisition reform is to become a reality. Clearly, it will take a lot of determination and guts to upset this nastily ingrained apple cart that so many are feeding from. Will it happen over the next 4-8 years? I doubt it (unless we have a total economic collapse - which I truely hope our nation is able to avoid). |
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If Obama was serious about reform and saving money, he would have actually looked at the pork-laden "stimulus package" and acted to remove the wasteful spending. Instead, he rubber-stamped it........
The talk of reform is just that--talk. Unfortunately, there are many out there that actually believe he is going to actually do something about the wasteful spending. |
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So whats new? Another POL crying fraud, waste and abuse in the Pentagon budget?
The only reform coming down the pike is the manpower budget will be cut. |
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Member -------------------  Proud Member Derelict Veterans Group -------------------  |
Once again this fruitcake hits some things right and then shows his ignorance. JSF/F-111- I could have sworn the Joint Service Fighter (JSF) was a fighter plane not a bomber!One that would meet the requiremnts of the AF/Navy/USMC- tho it's hard to meet USMC needs (must have a bayonet mounted). Joking!- the Corps are damn good and their aviation supports the grunt
 Anything above Battalion level is fraud or abuse- last time I work Bde or Corps level- we didn't procure sh@#! We got what the Army had- in a blue moon we might get permission to by something off the shelf if it wasn't in the system. You want to fix procurement- have fair trials- hold manufactorers to the price they quoted- don't add to the system or change the requirements mid stream & think more than 4-5 years down the road. Stop letting Congress force procuremnets into their own states when it can be down cheaper in another. Force more quailty control and better testing! That would fix a lot of procurement woes! |
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Think of the way the government spends money in a fiscal year. They dont release money till march sometimes and then at the end of the fiscal year it floods in. Then you have to spend all your budget or some of it either gets taken away or you dont get more next year. How long do you think a real world business could sustain operations if it spent money like that? A few months, or until they could not get any more credit.
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wow, if you think our country will be safe with only ground troops you ar sadly mistaken.
people say now that too many troops are dying on the ground. The US has the only superior airforce in the world. We take the fight to foreign soil so we don't have to americans fighting for our saftey dying on our front yards. let's just go back to the 1700's i sure that would make people feel warm and fuzzy about spending "fraud, waste, and abuse" at the pentagon |
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Lind finally wrote a decent article for the most part. He forgot to mention that Gates knows the DoD budget game all too well. Gates used to be the DCIA and that the classified intelligence budgets for the CIA and NSA are hidden in the DoD budget. He knows all too well, about intelligence gathering procurement.
As far as congress goes, we might save a lot more money if the DoD only bought from union free designers. The unions are the ones pushing up the costs to taxpayers. Plus, those politicians are out there supporting these unions. Something has to give. |
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Much as we disagree in other forums, I agree with on this. The question now is, how do affect this change? How do we get Americans to push this kind of change? |
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I have to disagree, for what is being paid for the uniforms (keep in mind this is a limited example) are we really paying for the ripstop nylon uniform we get and a small over head as is advertised to get the uniforms made in Honduras? The uniforms are really expensive. And that is just one example. |
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