RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,173955,00.html
some folks think they (Russia) can swallow as much as they want too with as much help as can be given.

This Lind commentary is right on the mark. G.W. Bush appears mad with power. And McCain thinks that, to be President, he must be even more reckless. Perhaps the Mayans could truly see the end of time, when they stopped their calendar at 2012.

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A few facts are in order here. First, the current conflict was started not by Russia but by Georgia, which foolishly attacked the Russian dependency of South Ossetia. Did Georgia make this suicidal move with prior assurance of American backing? If so, Washington provoked the conflict, which would be as great a crime as the Bush administration lying us into war with Iraq.

This is the most important paragraph in this article for me. It is insane to think we have anywhere near the might LEFT to engage Russia in an actual war at this time. Totally nonsensical.

In all likelihood, that is why it is probably(and sadly) TRUE.

Bush-Cheney-McSame are just horny for a war....any war!

Pointing out the obvious to this Administration and its backers has not had very much effect, but you have to do it for when the stuff hits the fan so, as you wipe the stuff from your eyes, you can say "I told you so." Cheney can talk tough all he wants. He gets Secret Service protection and a bunker deep underground. For the rest of us? November 4th, January 20th. November 4th, January 20th. November 4th, January 20th. November 4th, January 20th......

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Originally posted by bwf27:
Pointing out the obvious to this Administration and its backers has not had very much effect, but you have to do it for when the stuff hits the fan so, as you wipe the stuff from your eyes, you can say "I told you so." Cheney can talk tough all he wants. He gets Secret Service protection and a bunker deep underground. For the rest of us? November 4th, January 20th. November 4th, January 20th. November 4th, January 20th. November 4th, January 20th......

This particular "mess" was not started by Mr. Bush. This actually is part of a bi-partisan policy innitiated during the Clinton Administration.

At that time it was realised that Europe was increasing dependent on Oil and gas from the old Soviet Republics. It was decided to build a pipeline, outside of direct Russian control.

I have no problem with that policy. Nor does that policy threaten Russian interests, unless you define Russian interests as inherenently being able to control Europe.

Sasskavilli was apparently warned by us, NOT to respond to Russian provocations. He fell right into Putins plan - by responding to attacks launched on Gerogia from Ossetia. Difficult to really blame him, when I'm not the one being shelled. Now that the trap has been sprung, the real aims of the Russians are being revealed - And revealed not only in Georgia, but an increasingly nationalistic war on all the old members of the Czarist empire.

So, while I'm certainly not advocating a war with Russia over Ossetia, where exactely do people want to draw the line? Ukraine? Poland? The Baltic Nations?

Dave

For a horseshoe so is lost an empire.