Why McCain is Wrong

http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,172997,00.html

Not only is he wrong on all those points, he is also LYING about everything these days, and he is the living-definition of Flip-Flopper. He would say ANYTHING at this point to garner ANY votes, even if it means agreeing with Obama most of the time, then saying he isn't.

An exciting change is about to come forth in the nation, for the good of all of America. The only question is, are we willing to take a chance on a man who is intelligent, talented and honest, or are we going to choose another DICK(aka McCain) for the next 8 years in the White House...?

I am voting for a change, because I believe in US.

John McCain believes in the same course as we have been on for 7 years, and another 7 years of that will END our Founder's Idealistic Dreams, for good.

AHHH, The old format!!!
I would love to see change and the return to what our

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Founding Fathers

really meant when they wrote the Constitution.
The problem

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As I See It

is that former Georgia Republican Bob Barr, the Libertarian candidate, can't get his message out to the people. The Liberal News Mediaare All Obama, All the time. They can't be bothered with a Real Conservative. Barr would be a better choice than John McCain, who is too old, too moderate and too much like Bush. Barr would also be a better choice than Obama, who is too inexperienced, too liberal and too much like Reverend Wright.
Check out Bob Barr and see what Real Change is about!

Too many fancy buttons and stuffI LIKECan't help playing around

As I see you dislike McCain, it looks like you're talking about a third presidential candidate ?
Care to share his name ?

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Originally posted by Weatherguesser:
...are we willing to take a chance on a man who is intelligent, talented and honest, ...

Mr. Lind,

Your stupid statement: A change in policy by the U.S. Marines in Anbar Province whereby they stopped attacking the Sunni population and started paying it instead.

So you are telling us that our Marines were attacking Men, Women, and Children; "the Sunni population"? How greatful we should be that you enlighten us with this revelation. WERE YOU THERE PANZY? DID YOU SEE IT? So, our Marines were purposly ingnoring the ROE?

Your a moron if you think your going to convince me or anyone else of your stupid assertation! Crawl back under your rock you cockroach!

weatherguesser... I can understand, and share, your dislike of McCain, although I'm certian it's not for the same reasons. But to try in the same post to pretend Obama is anything more than the exact same thing is naive, to put it nicely. He's no different than any other career politician with his pandering and flip-flops. Although I actually laughed out loud that you used his "change" campaign slogan in your post, lets be honest, he'll be just as beholden to the people that put him there as any other Washington insider.

Change we can believe in? I'm sure of it... although I'm not sure collecting U.S. taxpayer money for the UN to be redistributed among the worlds poor was what the Founders had in mind. (bill S.2433)

His idea to raise capital gains tax to 25% is also some more "change" I can do without as a working stiff who knows that social security will be belly-up by the time I retire.

http://www.nysun.com/business/obama-capital-gains-tax-h...-hit-new-york/81902/

Relying on his experience in foreign policy (none) and his experience in pushing through legislation (next to none) I'm not sure how we can be expected to form an opinion to vote for or against the man.

1sgoc ...touche! such wit! You told him good.I'm in awe of your intelligence.

This is just great, a fellow whose sole attachment to the military is because he served as an aide to a politican ( funk & waggy says politican is a synonym for liar) And now this clown has all the answers? I have a suggestion for change- move congress & the UN to Ellis island & blocage them there permenently!Term limits should run 2 terms for everyone.Let the politicans tell us who and when to fight, then let us fight and win the way it needs to be done! At least McCain & family have & are willing to lay their b!@$$s on the line- Obama has never risked anything for this nation!

Festus_1961

I'm Glad you mentioned a third Party since the main other two have put up their worst canidates for President...

I'm not a memember of any of the party's...but lately the Libertarian has been getting more of my attention.

I do wish that the Novemeber ballot had "None of the Above" as a choice, and if that recieved the highest votes, should cause the political parties to kick out the canidates and start a new (but no time for Campaigning or anything...just the Parties need to Pick a better Leader out of their groups, throw that person out there in the public eye for a week, and then let the voters decide...
And a Constitutional Ammendment change to a one term 6 year Presidency with no time off to Campaign for the next fellow politician election but do their damn job and LEAD this country for the whole six years their in office then they can never run again. Period!
I can hardly wait till 2012 elections just to get past these zooheads (or, if luck will have it the Mayan calander is correct and we don't have to worry past December 2012 about anything...)

Is this the best Military.com can come up with? To ignore the stabilizing effect of the troop surge is to ignore reality. The surge had both effects that were easy to see and also effects that are more difficult, especially for political hacks like Lind. The surge demonstrated that we weren't going to turn tail and run. Doesn't Mr. Lind recognize the effect that had on insurgents or potential insurgents?

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Originally posted by CSSAMO:
Is this the best Military.com can come up with? To ignore the stabilizing effect of the troop surge is to ignore reality. The surge had both effects that were easy to see and also effects that are more difficult, especially for political hacks like Lind. The surge demonstrated that we weren't going to turn tail and run. Doesn't Mr. Lind recognize the effect that had on insurgents or potential insurgents?

CSSAMO: "Is this the best Military.com can come up with"? What is that supposed to mean? Mil.com didn't write the article.

And yes, he is well aware that the surge has worked. He, like most Liberals, chooses to turn a blind eye to our Military's success.

Besides, consider the source. This is the guy who co-authored a book with Democrat Gary Hart.

Hmmm...

We are paying the Iraqi's to not fight each other, and AQ in Iraq alienated the population by killing innocent muslims, thereby turning the locals against AQ in a big way (they just hate AQI more than us at this point).

Only the passage of time will tell, and no one has yet to define what "victory" means in Iraq.

Too bad we went in - that was a deeply stupid thing to do in the first place (as usual, Daddy knew better than junior).

A shame...

Lind has been pretty much on target with his op-eds and opposing comments tend to be blanket dismissals or ad hominem attacks. McCain chose to include PNAC styled consultants in his staff and affiliations and that alone connects him too much to the Bush/Cheney legacy. "The Surge" is a chapter of military success in a book of military, humanitarian, and political disaster. IMHO.

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Originally posted by Weatherguesser:
Why McCain is Wrong

http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,172997,00.html

Not only is he wrong on all those points, he is also LYING about everything these days, and he is the living-definition of Flip-Flopper. He would say ANYTHING at this point to garner ANY votes, even if it means agreeing with Obama most of the time, then saying he isn't.

An exciting change is about to come forth in the nation, for the good of all of America. The only question is, are we willing to take a chance on a man who is intelligent, talented and honest, or are we going to choose another DICK(aka McCain) for the next 8 years in the White House...?

I am voting for a change, because I believe in US.

John McCain believes in the same course as we have been on for 7 years, and another 7 years of that will END our Founder's Idealistic Dreams, for good.

You do realize you joined the ranks of the same ilk that spit on you when you got home from Vietnam right? Nice peace sign treehugger. Obama is a socialist borderline communist, also ironic you would vote for him.

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Originally posted by jumper297:
weatherguesser... I can understand, and share, your dislike of McCain, although I'm certian it's not for the same reasons.

Jumper: Thanks for the questions. Seriously. But I am against the man for 3 'main' reasons... 1) He has cconsitently voted AGAINST Veterans programs, as in almost ALWAYS. 2) He has taken to saying and doing anything to try to humiliate Obama, sometimes for the same things he himself has done(as in visiting IRAQ with the press, several times?). 3) He changes his position on the issues more than Kerry EVER did, by FAR.

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But to try in the same post to pretend Obama is anything more than the exact same thing is naive, to put it nicely.

If you cannot see the difference between these two guys, then I cannot possibly see how I can change your thinking.

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He's no different than any other career politician with his pandering and flip-flops.

They ALL pander for votes guy, this IS an election for President... eh? But name #3 "Flip Flops" Obama has made on policy issues. I'll be ready with 15 MAJOR policy "switcharoos" that McCain has made in just the last 6 months.

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Although I actually laughed out loud that you used his "change" campaign slogan in your post, lets be honest, he'll be just as beholden to the people that put him there as any other Washington insider.

Perhaps, but we already KNOW who McCain is beholden to. Change to me means a new political direction for the U.S. That is ALL it means. If I had to stop writing because of all thew adjectives and superlatives that politicians use in campaigning I would shortly run out of language. And quite frankly, I laugh out loud every time ANYONE says McCain is going to "Save" Social Security. THAT, is truly funny.

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Change we can believe in? I'm sure of it... although I'm not sure collecting U.S. taxpayer money for the UN to be redistributed among the worlds poor was what the Founders had in mind. (bill S.2433)

Can you be more specific on that? Maybe a link to Obama's stand on that particular bill?

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His idea to raise capital gains tax to 25% is also some more "change" I can do without as a working stiff who knows that social security will be belly-up by the time I retire.

Oh c'mon man. You really think McCain is going to do anything to preserve Social Security? Do you really think he will NOT allow taxes to go up for some? Nonsense... not possible. Taxes NEVER go down, unless you are in the TOP tax-brackets, which you and I are not???

http://www.nysun.com/business/obama-capital-gains-tax-h...-hit-new-york/81902/

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Relying on his experience in foreign policy (none) and his experience in pushing through legislation (next to none) I'm not sure how we can be expected to form an opinion to vote for or against the man.

Well, since Abe Lincoln, George Washington, Roosevelt, Kennedy, REAGAN and BUSH-II (to name just a few) ALL had little or no real Foreign Policy "expertise" when they took office, then we have nothing to fear but fear itself... and McCain is sure trying to make people fear Obama.

(Which is actually my 4th reason why I will not vote for McCain. He's another fear-monger... and he is OLD, as in OLD).

But my main complaint, seriously, is that he has a proven track record of IGNORING our issues - as Veterans. He is a phoney on Veteran's issues, totally.

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And by the way...? The NY Sun is admittedly a "Right of Center" publication, not even at the same level as the Wash. Times for it's editorial content. I know that is nit-picking, but it is also true. I won't be changing my voting preference based on anything that just #1 paper publishes. I mean, seriously... will you?

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You do realize you joined the ranks of the same ilk that spit on you when you got home from Vietnam right? Nice peace sign treehugger. Obama is a socialist borderline communist, also ironic you would vote for him.

You don't know me, you don't know my experience during Vietnam, and you are an ass-hole for even saying that crap. I guess you meant all other Vietnam veterans, my contemporaries, or my "Ilk"?

I am a Democrat, as I was when I enlisted, and when I voted for Gerald Ford, and as when I voted for John Kerry. I don't kiss anybody's butt and I take my vote very seriously. I study the issues and I listen to the candidates. McCain cannot be trusted on ANY issue anymore.

You Republicans were right to oppose him from among the many candidates you had to choose from in the primaries. He isn't much of a candidate, and he certainly is not as intelligent or as charisimatic as Obama is.

He is, quite honestly... More of the Same.

Badmac933:

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Besides, consider the source. This is the guy who co-authored a book with Democrat Gary Hart.

What book would that be??????

Hey gang... can anyone tell me what is NOT true about this article? Has the writer lied about McCain, and if so... How?

I am serious... seriously.

(And now, I go to clean the garage.)

I'm fully aware of who wrote the article, point was that can't military.com come up with more contemporary editorialists. I don't mean they have to agree with my points, not at all, but IMO, Lind is stale and out of touch.

With a piece like Lind posted a blanket dismissal is exactly what it deserves. He can throw all the Latin into it that he wants but to say that the surge was not a major factor in the stabilization of Iraq is just plain wrong.

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Originally posted by badmac933:

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Originally posted by CSSAMO:
Is this the best Military.com can come up with? To ignore the stabilizing effect of the troop surge is to ignore reality. The surge had both effects that were easy to see and also effects that are more difficult, especially for political hacks like Lind. The surge demonstrated that we weren't going to turn tail and run. Doesn't Mr. Lind recognize the effect that had on insurgents or potential insurgents?

CSSAMO: "Is this the best Military.com can come up with"? What is that supposed to mean? Mil.com didn't write the article.

And yes, he is well aware that the surge has worked. He, like most Liberals, chooses to turn a blind eye to our Military's success.

Besides, consider the source. This is the guy who co-authored a book with Democrat Gary Hart.